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I'm trying to figure out the best filing strategy since my Full Retirement Age (FRA) is coming up on May 15, 2025. I'm planning to apply for Social Security benefits in the next couple of weeks and know I can do it online. From what I've read, I might be eligible for benefits on my ex-spouse's record (isn't it 50% of their amount?), and I think that might be about $275 more per month than my own benefit. My question is: when I'm actually going through the online application process, will I be able to see both amounts side by side to compare before making my final decision? Or do I have to commit to one option without knowing exactly what I'd get from each? I was married for 12 years if that matters for eligibility.
I'm currently 58 and trying to plan my Social Security strategy after losing my husband last year. He passed at 64 before claiming any benefits. His estimated benefit at FRA would have been around $2,850. My own benefit at 62 would be approximately $1,100, or $1,570 if I wait until my FRA (66 and 10 months). I'm wondering if this strategy would work: claim MY OWN reduced retirement benefits at 62, then switch to my husband's survivor benefits when I reach my FRA? Would I receive 100% of what he would have gotten? Or should I wait and just claim survivor benefits at my FRA? The financial difference seems substantial - if I understand correctly, taking survivor benefits at my FRA might give me his full $2,850, versus only getting reduced survivor benefits if I claim early. But I'm also concerned about making ends meet in the meantime. Has anyone successfully done this switching strategy? The SSA representative I spoke with seemed unsure about whether this would work.
I just want to warn everyone that SS doesn't always explain all ur options!! My mom found out YEARS after my dad died that she could have gotten more by switching between benefits. No one told her! Make them run ALL the calculations and get everything in writing!!!!
This is such valuable information everyone is sharing! As someone new to navigating survivor benefits, I'm learning so much from reading about your experiences. One thing I'd add - I've heard that it's really important to apply for survivor benefits in person at a local SSA office rather than online, especially for complex situations like switching strategies. The online system apparently doesn't handle the nuances well, and you need an experienced representative who can walk through all the scenarios with you. Also, @Zadie Patel, you might want to consider getting a written benefit estimate for both scenarios before making your final decision. That way you have documentation of what SSA calculated and can refer back to it if there are any issues later. The stories about people missing out on thousands because they weren't told about all their options are really concerning. It seems like you really have to advocate for yourself and ask specifically about switching strategies.
I'm turning 62 in September and eligible for Social Security retirement benefits - but honestly, it's going to be a tiny amount (about $840/month) because I was out of the workforce for many years raising our kids. My husband (64) plans to wait until his Full Retirement Age in 2027 to file for his much larger benefit. Can I take my own small benefit early at 62, then switch to a spousal benefit when he files at his FRA? I'll be almost 65 when he files. Will I get the full 50% spousal benefit or will it be reduced because I started my own benefit early? Also, I've heard something about Social Security closing filing strategy "loopholes" - does this affect the strategy I'm considering? I don't want to mess this up since we're planning our retirement finances carefully. Thanks!
Thank you all so much for the helpful responses! This is much more complicated than I thought, but I understand better now. I'm going to run some calculations to see whether taking my small benefit early is worth the permanent reduction to my eventual spousal benefit. Since we have some savings, I might be able to wait until my FRA. I'll definitely try to speak with SSA directly to get exact numbers for my situation before making a final decision.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - you might want to consider whether you qualify for any other benefits while waiting. If your income is low enough, you could potentially qualify for programs like SNAP, Medicaid, or utility assistance during those years between 62 and your FRA. Sometimes these benefits can help bridge the gap financially, making it more feasible to wait for the higher Social Security payments. Also, don't forget that if you do take your benefit early at 62, you'll be subject to the earnings test if you're still working. In 2024, you can only earn up to $22,320 without having benefits reduced. Just another factor to consider in your planning! Good luck with your decision - it sounds like you're being very thoughtful about weighing all the options.
I just found out my ex might be receiving SSDI and I'm trying to understand my options. We were married for 14 years before divorcing in 2011. He's been on disability for the past few years (not sure exactly when it started). I'm currently 56 and considering taking early retirement at 62. Would I be eligible to collect half of his disability benefit at that point? And if I do that, can I then switch to my own benefits when I reach 70 to get the maximum on my own record? My financial advisor mentioned something about this strategy but I'm confused about whether it works with disability benefits or just regular Social Security. Also, does he need to know if I apply for benefits on his record?
The original poster has outlined the correct approach in their last comment. To summarize this thread with accurate information: 1. Due to the deemed filing rules for those born after 1954, you can't file a restricted application to claim ex-spouse benefits first, then switch to your own later. 2. When you apply for benefits, SSA will calculate both your own retirement benefit and your ex-spouse benefit (50% of their PIA), and pay you the higher of the two amounts. 3. If you claim any benefits before your full retirement age (67), they will be permanently reduced. 4. Working while collecting benefits before FRA will subject you to the earnings test, which may temporarily reduce your benefits. 5. The mathematically optimal strategy (if you can afford it) is usually to wait until 70 to claim the higher of the two benefits, especially if you expect to live beyond approximately age 82.
Thank you all so much for the helpful information! This clears up my confusion. I'll create my SSA account, check my own benefit projections, then call them to ask specifically about what I could get from my ex's record. Based on those numbers and considering how long I plan to work, I'll make a decision about when to apply. Really appreciate everyone's help!
One more thing to keep in mind - since your ex is on SSDI, his disability benefits will automatically convert to retirement benefits when he reaches his full retirement age (probably 66 or 67 depending on his birth year). The amount stays the same, but this conversion might affect how SSA calculates your potential ex-spouse benefit. When you call them, make sure to mention that he's currently receiving disability benefits rather than retirement benefits. Also, just to be extra clear - you don't need to be in contact with your ex or get his permission. SSA has all the records they need to determine your eligibility and benefit amounts. Good luck with your decision!
Can someone break down the earnings limits for me? I'm turning my Full Retirement Age (66 and 8 months, born in 1958) on May 23, 2025. Super confused about two things: 1. How much can I earn between January 1 and May 23, 2025 before they reduce my benefits? I heard there's some monthly rule but don't understand it. 2. After I hit FRA in May, is there any limit on what my income can be for the rest of 2025? And does this apply to my Adjusted Gross Income or just wages? I started taking SS at 62 and now I'm planning my work schedule for next year. My boss wants me to take on more hours, but I don't want to mess up my SS payments. Thanks for any help!
I just got off the phone with SS after a 2 hour wait! They confirmed what you all said - my limit is about $62,160 (they gave me the exact number) from Jan 1 to May 23. After that, no limit at all. But the rep warned me that if I earn too much in those early months, I might have to pay back some benefits. I'm going to try to stay under the limit to be safe. BTW they also told me to report my expected earnings for 2025 in advance using the SSA website, which I didn't know was possible!
Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful for your planning - when you do reach FRA in May, you'll also become eligible for delayed retirement credits if you decide to delay claiming further increases to your benefit. Since you're already receiving benefits, this doesn't apply to you, but it's worth knowing that the earnings test elimination at FRA is permanent. Also, regarding work scheduling - since you know your exact limit now ($62,160 through May 23), you might want to calculate backwards from that number to figure out your safe hourly/weekly earnings rate for those first 4+ months. That way you can give your boss a clear answer about the additional hours without risking going over the threshold. Good luck with your work planning for 2025!
CosmicCommander
One last thing to consider: If your ex-spouse hasn't filed for their benefits yet, you can still receive divorced spouse benefits based on their record as long as you've been divorced for at least 2 years and they're eligible for benefits (even if not claiming yet). This is called the two-year divorce rule or 'independently entitled divorced spouse' benefits. Just another factor to consider in your planning.
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Paolo Ricci
AuthorWe've been divorced for 9 years now, so that works out perfectly. I have no idea if they've filed yet or not - we don't keep in touch. It's good to know this won't be an issue either way!
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Darren Brooks
One thing I'd like to add from my experience working with SSA benefits: Don't forget that divorced spouse benefits are based on your ex's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), not what they're actually receiving if they filed early or late. So even if your ex filed at 62 and gets a reduced benefit, your divorced spouse benefit would still be calculated from their full retirement age amount. This is actually favorable for you! Also, just to confirm what others have said - you'll definitely need to call after filing online to make sure they calculate both options. The online system just doesn't have that comparison feature built in unfortunately.
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