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I'm in a similar boat - 64 and trying to figure out the best strategy before I hit FRA. From what I've gathered reading through these responses, it sounds like the online application will process whatever you choose, but it won't actively advise you on the optimal strategy. @Zoe Papadakis - based on the numbers you shared ($1,640 own benefit vs your husband's $2,800), your spousal benefit would indeed be around $1,400, so your own benefit is clearly higher. The real question seems to be whether you should file now at FRA or delay until 70 for the 8% annual increases. One thing that hasn't been mentioned - if you're still working, make sure you understand how the earnings test works even at FRA. And if you have any ex-spouses you were married to for 10+ years, that could open up additional options an agent would know about. I'm leaning toward trying to get through to an agent myself after reading all this. The peace of mind seems worth the effort, especially when we're talking about decisions that affect the rest of our lives.
@Cassandra Moon You make a really good point about ex-spouses! I was married to my first husband for 12 years but never thought about whether his benefits might be higher than mine or my current husband s.'That s'definitely something the online system wouldn t'know to ask about or compare. I m'starting to think there are just too many variables for the website to handle properly. Thanks for mentioning that - it s'another reason I really need to speak with an agent before making any decisions!
I went through this exact situation last year and ended up doing both - I applied online initially but then called the SSA customer service line repeatedly until I got through (took about 2 weeks of trying). The agent was able to review my online application before it was processed and caught an issue I hadn't considered. In your case, with your own benefit at $1,640 vs. the spousal benefit around $1,400 (50% of your husband's PIA), your own benefit is definitely higher. However, the agent helped me understand the timing implications better. Since you're at FRA now, you could start collecting immediately, or you could delay and earn delayed retirement credits of 8% per year until age 70. The online system will let you choose either option, but it won't run scenarios for you like "if you wait until 70, you'd get $2,050/month, but you'd miss out on 4 years of payments totaling about $78,720." An agent can help you think through your health, other income sources, and family longevity to make that decision. My advice: try the online application to see all the questions they ask, but don't submit it yet. That way you'll be better prepared when you do get through to an agent. The application stays in draft form for 30 days, so you have time to get professional guidance before finalizing.
That's brilliant advice about starting the online application but not submitting it! I never thought of using it as a preview to see what questions they ask. That way I can gather all the information and think through the scenarios before committing to anything. The math you laid out really helps too - seeing it as "miss 4 years of payments totaling $78,720" versus "gain $410/month for potentially 15+ years" makes the decision much clearer. I think I'll definitely try that approach - draft the application online to see what I'm dealing with, then use that Claimyr service or keep trying to reach an agent to review everything before I hit submit. Thanks for such a practical suggestion!
wait i'm confused about something - does he have to wait til hes FRA to get the spousal benefit or can he get it as soon as you file???
He can receive the spousal benefit as soon as she files for her own benefits, assuming she's at least 62 (which she will be). He doesn't need to wait until his FRA. However, since he's already receiving his own reduced benefit, the amount of the spousal addition will also be permanently reduced because he took his benefits early.
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! So it sounds like: 1) Yes, he can get some additional amount when I file, but it won't be a full 50% of my benefit 2) The amount will be reduced because he took early retirement 3) We need to specifically apply for this when I file for my benefits 4) Every situation is different, but we might see a few hundred dollars extra per month This really helps us with our retirement planning. I appreciate all the responses!
That's an excellent summary! One additional thought - if your husband's income is quite low compared to yours, you might want to look into filing strategies that maximize your combined lifetime benefits. For instance, since you're the higher earner, it might make sense for you to delay until 70 if possible, as that would maximize both your benefit and any potential survivor benefit if you predecease your husband. The survivor benefit would replace his lower benefit. Every situation is unique, but it's worth considering.
Update: I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned and actually got through to the IRS yesterday! The agent was surprisingly helpful and set me up on a minimal payment plan ($75/month) based on my expected income. She said as long as I keep making the payments, they won't levy my Social Security at all. Such a relief! Now I can go ahead and file for my benefits without worrying. Thanks everyone for your help!
That's fantastic news! So glad you were able to get through and work out a reasonable payment plan. $75/month is definitely manageable and much better than having 15% automatically taken from your Social Security. This is a great example of why it's worth the effort to actually speak with someone at the IRS rather than just accepting the default garnishment. Your success story will hopefully help other people in similar situations know that there are options available. Enjoy your retirement benefits when they start coming in!
This is such an encouraging outcome! As someone new to dealing with government agencies, it's really reassuring to see that persistence pays off. The difference between a 15% automatic garnishment and a manageable $75/month payment plan is huge - that could be the difference between making ends meet and struggling each month. Thanks for sharing your success story and for mentioning the Claimyr service. It's good to know there are resources out there to help navigate these complex situations. Best of luck with your retirement!
Thank you all for the helpful explanations! This makes so much more sense now. It's amazing that married couples can really maximize their benefits this way. My husband and I are both approaching retirement age and I worked part-time for many years, so I'll definitely be looking into whether the spousal benefit might be better for me. Feeling much more confident about our retirement planning now!
I'm glad this thread helped clear things up! Just wanted to add one more consideration for anyone planning their retirement strategy - timing matters a lot with spousal benefits. If you're the higher-earning spouse, delaying your own Social Security past full retirement age (up to age 70) will increase your benefit by about 8% per year, which also increases the potential spousal benefit for your partner. However, the spouse claiming spousal benefits doesn't get delayed retirement credits - their maximum is still 50% of your Primary Insurance Amount at full retirement age. So it's worth running the numbers to see if it makes sense for the higher earner to delay while the spouse starts collecting spousal benefits earlier. Everyone's situation is different!
This is such valuable information about timing strategies! I hadn't considered that the higher earner could delay while the spouse starts collecting. That 8% per year increase could really add up. Do you happen to know if there are any restrictions on when the spouse can start collecting spousal benefits if the higher earner hasn't filed yet? I'm wondering if my husband would need to file first before I could claim spousal benefits, or if there are ways around that.
Zainab Ali
Congratulations on your approval! I know exactly how you're feeling right now - that combination of shock, excitement, and impatience is so real after going through such a grueling process. Unfortunately, based on my experience and what I've seen from countless others here, your first payment almost definitely won't arrive tomorrow. When your letter says "benefits begin February 2025," that's your official entitlement date - meaning that's when SSA considers you eligible to start receiving payments. But the actual processing and deposit typically takes an additional 2-4 weeks after approval. I got my approval letter last summer saying payments would start "on the 3rd" but didn't see my first deposit until almost a month later. The SSA has to update their payment systems, verify banking information, and process everything through Treasury - it's not an instant switch that gets flipped. Since you mentioned your disability onset was 8 months ago, you should definitely be past the 5-month waiting period, which means you're likely looking at around 3 months of backpay. This usually comes as a separate deposit with no predictable timing relative to your regular monthly payments. I'd recommend checking your MySocialSecurity account regularly for payment updates and trying to be patient for at least another 3-4 weeks before getting concerned. The approval really was the hardest mountain to climb - everything else is just administrative processing. The money is absolutely coming!
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Misterclamation Skyblue
•Thank you Zainab for such a comprehensive and encouraging response! Your explanation about the difference between entitlement date and actual payment processing really clears things up. I was definitely getting too fixated on the literal wording in my approval letter. A month delay from your letter date to first deposit is actually pretty consistent with what everyone else has shared here. It's helpful to know that 2-4 weeks is the normal processing window even after approval. I'm going to focus on being grateful for getting approved at all rather than stressing about the exact timing. The backpay information is reassuring too - 3 months sounds about right based on my timeline. I'll keep checking my MySocialSecurity account but try to be more patient about the process. This community has been amazing for setting realistic expectations and reducing my anxiety about what comes next!
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Lucy Taylor
Congratulations on your approval! I completely understand that mix of excitement and disbelief you're feeling right now. I went through the exact same thing about 18 months ago and was constantly refreshing my bank account hoping to see that first deposit appear. Unfortunately, your first payment almost certainly won't arrive tomorrow, even though your letter says February 2025. That date represents when your benefits officially begin (your entitlement date), but there's typically a 2-4 week processing delay for the actual first payment to hit your account. The SSA needs time to update their payment systems, verify your banking information, and process everything through Treasury. When I got my approval letter, it said payments would come "around the 2nd" but my first deposit didn't arrive until 3.5 weeks later. The "on or around the 3rd" language in your letter refers to your regular monthly payment schedule once everything is set up and running smoothly. Since your disability onset was 8 months ago, you've definitely satisfied the 5-month waiting period, so you should be eligible for approximately 3 months of backpay. This typically comes as a separate deposit and might arrive before, after, or with your first regular payment - there's really no consistent pattern. My advice: try to be patient for another 3-4 weeks, keep checking your MySocialSecurity account for updates, and remember that getting approved was definitely the hardest part of this whole process. The money is absolutely coming - it's just a matter of waiting for the administrative wheels to turn!
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