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Just wanted to add one more consideration - make sure to keep detailed records of your earnings throughout the year. SSA will want documentation when they do their annual earnings review, and having everything organized will make the process much smoother. Also, if your income varies month to month, you might want to estimate conservatively and report any changes to SSA promptly. They can adjust the withholding mid-year if your circumstances change, which could help you avoid overpayment situations that need to be sorted out later.

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Great advice about keeping detailed records! I learned this the hard way when I went back to work after starting SS early. The annual earnings review can be a nightmare if you don't have your documentation organized. One tip - if you're paid hourly or have variable income, keep track of your monthly totals so you can predict when you might hit that earnings limit during the year. SSA's estimates aren't always accurate, and you don't want any surprises.

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One more thing to consider that hasn't been fully addressed - the timing of when benefits get withheld during the year. SSA doesn't spread the withholding evenly across 12 months. They typically withhold your entire monthly benefit starting in January until they've recovered the projected annual withholding amount. So if they calculate you'll have $30,000 withheld for the year and your monthly benefit is $2,600, they'll withhold your benefits for about 11-12 months, then you might get benefits again in November/December. This can create cash flow challenges if you're counting on any SS income during certain months. Just something to factor into your budgeting when you take that job!

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My neighbor got approved for disability and it took like 6-7 weeks to get paid I think? But that was in Florida not NY so maybe different?

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I work for a disability advocacy organization and see this situation frequently. Your brother-in-law should expect his first regular SSDI payment within 4-8 weeks of approval (so likely by mid to late October). The backpay typically follows 2-4 weeks after that. Regarding child support - NY follows federal guidelines that limit garnishment to 65% of backpay for arrears and typically 50-65% of ongoing monthly payments. However, he should immediately contact the NY State Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance (OTDA) child support enforcement unit to discuss his situation. Sometimes they'll agree to a lower percentage if he can demonstrate financial hardship. Important: Make sure he keeps detailed records of all his current living expenses (rent, utilities, food, medical costs) as this documentation can help when negotiating with child support enforcement. Also, since DSS will want repayment from his backpay period, he should ask for a written breakdown of exactly what they expect to recover so there are no surprises. The waiting is brutal, but hang in there - the payments are coming!

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This is incredibly helpful information - thank you so much! I'll definitely tell him to contact OTDA child support enforcement right away and start gathering all his expense documentation. The timeline you mentioned (mid to late October for first payment) gives us something concrete to tell DSS when they keep asking. It's reassuring to hear from someone who sees these cases regularly that the payments really are coming. The waiting has been the hardest part after such a long fight for approval.

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I've been through a similar situation and wanted to share some practical tips that helped me prepare for when my daughter's benefits ended. First, create a written timeline now - mark your calendar for when your son turns 17.5 (to watch for that school status form), his 18th birthday, and his expected graduation date. Second, start reaching out to SSA about 4-5 months before he turns 18 to confirm the exact termination date and get any necessary forms. Third, if you're planning to modify child support when benefits end, consider consulting with a family law attorney about 6 months before the benefits stop - they can help you understand your state's specific requirements and timeline for filing. Finally, document everything - keep copies of all SSA correspondence, your annual payee reports, and records of how the benefits were used. This documentation will be helpful both for SSA and for court proceedings. The transition doesn't have to be overwhelming if you plan ahead!

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This is such excellent advice! I'm definitely going to create that timeline right away - having specific dates marked will help me feel more in control of this situation. The 6-month advance planning for the attorney consultation is particularly helpful since I know these things can take time. I've been keeping good records for the SSA payee reports, but you're right that I should organize them better for potential court use too. It's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this process successfully. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed guidance!

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I'm new to this community but facing a similar situation with my 15-year-old daughter who receives benefits from her father's disability record. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the Student Statement form or that benefits could continue until 19 if still in high school. One thing I'm wondering about - does anyone know if the rules are different for children receiving benefits from a parent on disability versus retirement? My ex went on SSDI rather than early retirement, but I assume the age cutoffs are the same? Also, I've been struggling with those annual payee reports - they're so confusing. Does anyone have tips for organizing records throughout the year to make completing them easier?

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Welcome to the community! The age cutoffs are the same for children receiving benefits from a parent's SSDI record versus retirement - benefits continue until 18, or 19 if still in high school full-time. The Student Statement form applies to both situations too. For organizing records for those payee reports, I've found it helpful to keep a simple monthly log or use a dedicated folder (physical or digital) where I track major expenses throughout the year. I note things like housing costs (rent/mortgage portion), food expenses, clothing purchases, medical bills, school supplies, etc. Even keeping receipts in a shoebox labeled by month makes it much easier when report time comes around. Some people use a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, expense type, and amount. The key is staying consistent throughout the year rather than trying to reconstruct everything at report time!

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That's a good point. She did work for about 25 years as a teacher in a private school, but I think her own benefit calculation was quite a bit lower than even the 50% she gets from Uncle Frank's record. Still worth checking though!

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I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This is definitely a stressful time to be dealing with benefit questions, but you're being such a good advocate for your aunt. Just wanted to add that when she calls SSA, she should also ask about any potential lump-sum death benefit ($255) that she might be eligible for as the divorced spouse. It's not a huge amount, but every bit helps during this transition period. Also, if she's feeling overwhelmed by the phone process, many local SSA offices allow walk-ins for urgent matters like survivor benefit applications - sometimes that can be faster than trying to get through on the phone, especially given the current wait times people are experiencing.

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Widow's benefit calculation was wrong at SS office - RIB LIM saved me $16,000

Need to share what just happened with my survivor benefits because it might help someone else. My husband passed away last year, and I've been trying to figure out when to file for widow's benefits. I'm 63 now, and my survivor FRA isn't until November 2025. I invested in a calculator called Social Security Strategizer ($65) and also used the Free Benefit Analyzer (no cost). BOTH told me something surprising - I should file for widow's benefits NOW rather than waiting until my survivor FRA. They explained this was because of something called the "RIB LIM" rule that would apply in my case, even though my survivor benefit is actually higher than the 82.5% threshold they mentioned. When I went to the local SSA office last week, the claims rep told me I should definitely wait until November 2025 (my survivor FRA) because filing now would permanently reduce my benefit by approximately $520/month! She made it sound like I'd be crazy to file early. I asked her to explain why her calculation was different from these programs. She got annoyed and said those "internet calculators" were wrong. I politely insisted someone explain the RIB LIM calculations to me, but she said no specialists were available. I hate to admit this, but I had to refuse to leave and eventually mentioned I'd be calling my Representative's office if they couldn't explain their math. Suddenly, a technical specialist appeared! Guess what? The specialist confirmed exactly what both calculators showed - in MY specific case, filing now would give the same monthly amount as waiting until my FRA because of how RIB LIM works with my deceased husband's earnings record. If I had followed the first SSA rep's advice, I would have missed out on approximately $21,000 in benefits between now and November 2025! Moral of the story: If you're filing for anything more complicated than basic retirement benefits (especially survivor or spousal benefits), do your research before you go in. Study up on forums like this one and consider using reputable calculators before just accepting what the first SSA rep tells you.

This is exactly the kind of detailed, helpful information this community needs! As someone who's been navigating Social Security benefits for my aging parents, I can't stress enough how important it is to get multiple opinions and do your own research. The RIB-LIM rule is so obscure that even I hadn't heard of it until reading your post, despite spending months researching survivor benefits. It's shocking that a rule with such significant financial implications isn't better explained or more widely known. Your persistence at the SSA office was admirable - I know it's uncomfortable to push back when you feel like you're being difficult, but $21,000 is absolutely worth advocating for yourself! The fact that they suddenly found a "technical specialist" when you mentioned calling your Representative's office says everything about how the system works. For anyone else reading this who might be in a similar situation: document everything. Keep notes of what each SSA rep tells you, including their names and the date. If you get conflicting information, ask them to put their recommendation in writing. This creates a paper trail that can be helpful if you need to escalate or if there are errors that need to be corrected later. Thank you for sharing this experience and potentially saving other widows and widowers from making costly mistakes!

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This is such valuable advice, Mateo! The documentation tip is especially important - I wish I had thought to ask for things in writing during my initial visit. You're absolutely right that having a paper trail makes a huge difference when dealing with any government agency. I'm still learning about all the nuances of Social Security rules, but stories like Ally's really highlight how complex the system is and how easy it is for even well-meaning employees to give incorrect information. It's scary to think how many people might be missing out on benefits simply because they trusted the first answer they received. The fact that specialized knowledge like RIB-LIM exists but isn't commonly known even among SSA staff really shows why communities like this are so crucial. Where else would most people learn about these obscure but financially significant rules? I'm definitely going to remember the "ask for it in writing" approach for any future interactions with SSA. Thanks for sharing that strategy!

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As someone who works in financial planning, I can't emphasize enough how critical this story is for anyone dealing with survivor benefits. The RIB-LIM rule is one of those "hidden" provisions that can literally make or break someone's retirement security, yet it's rarely discussed in general Social Security education materials. What's particularly concerning is that this isn't just about one misinformed representative - it reflects a systemic issue where front-line SSA staff often aren't trained on the more complex optimization scenarios. They're taught the basic rules but may not understand how different provisions interact with each other. For anyone reading this thread: if you're dealing with survivor benefits, divorced spouse benefits, or any situation involving multiple benefit types, please get a second opinion before filing. The difference between optimal and suboptimal timing can easily be $20,000-$50,000+ over your lifetime. Ally, thank you for being persistent and sharing this experience. Your willingness to stand your ground potentially saved not just yourself but countless others who will read this story. This is exactly the kind of real-world advocacy that forces the system to work properly.

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