SS Disability vs Retirement Benefits for terminal illness - husband turning 65 with pancreatic cancer
My wife was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer last month. Doctors are saying she has about 8-10 months left. She's turning 65 in February and has been working at the same company for 32 years. She's planning to use up her 6 weeks of accumulated leave next month before officially retiring. Several family members keep insisting she should apply for Social Security disability instead of regular retirement benefits. Is there any actual advantage to going the SSDI route versus just taking her retirement benefits given her diagnosis? She worked her entire adult life and has more than enough credits. Just trying to make the right decision during this awful time. Any insights from folks who've been through something similar would be appreciated.
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Dylan Wright
I'm so sorry about your wife's diagnosis. To answer your question: at age 65, there's actually very little financial difference between SSDI and retirement benefits. The calculation method is essentially the same for both. However, there are a couple of potential advantages to filing for SSDI: 1. If your wife qualifies for SSDI, she gets a 5-month waiting period waived because of the terminal diagnosis (compassionate allowance condition) 2. If she's still under her Full Retirement Age (probably 66+some months based on her birth year), SSDI would give her 100% of her PIA whereas early retirement would reduce her benefit amount 3. Medicare eligibility comes with SSDI after 24 months, but she's nearly 65 anyway so that's not really a factor Honestly, with her turning 65 so soon, the simplest path is probably just filing for retirement benefits unless she's significantly below her FRA.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•Thank you for such a detailed answer. I didn't realize there was a 5-month waiting period that could be waived. Her full retirement age is 66 and 8 months, so there would be some reduction if she takes regular retirement at 65. Sounds like SSDI might be worth looking into after all.
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Sofia Torres
My dad had a similar situation with lung cancer. The SSA has something called Compassionate Allowance that FAST-TRACKS disability applications for certain conditions and pancreatic cancer is DEFINITELY on that list!!! We got his approval in like 3 WEEKS when normal disability takes FOREVER!!! Apply for SSDI immediately!!!! Don't wait!!!!!
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GalacticGuardian
•Is the compassionate allowance thing automatic or do you have to specifically ask for it? My cousin's application still took months even with terminal cancer.
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Dylan Wright
•Compassionate Allowance is automatically triggered when the diagnosis matches their list of qualifying conditions. You don't need to specifically request it, but making sure the medical documentation clearly states "pancreatic cancer" is important. Your cousin's delay might have happened if the documentation wasn't specific enough or if additional review was needed for some reason.
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Dmitry Smirnov
so sorry about your wife. my husband had cancer too and we went through all this last year. the disability vs retirement thing confused us too. we ended up just doing regular retirement because the disability paperwork seemed like too much during an already stressful time. whatever you decide, make sure to also look into any private disability insurance she might have through her workplace, thats separate from SS and might give additional benefits.
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Ava Rodriguez
In your wife's situation, applying for SSDI makes sense for several reasons: 1. At 65, she's still below her Full Retirement Age (likely around 66+ months), so taking early retirement would permanently reduce her benefit amount by approximately 8-10% 2. SSDI would provide her full PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) without reduction 3. Pancreatic cancer qualifies for the Compassionate Allowance program, which expedites processing to days/weeks instead of months 4. The normal 5-month waiting period for SSDI would be waived The only potential downside is having to compile medical documentation, but with a clear terminal diagnosis, approval should be straightforward. The financial difference could be $250-350 more per month with SSDI versus early retirement, which might be significant depending on your situation. I'd recommend applying for SSDI immediately - you can always switch to retirement benefits later if needed.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•Thank you for breaking down the numbers. That monthly difference is actually quite significant. Do you know if the compassionate allowance program requires any special application or additional forms beyond the regular SSDI application?
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Ava Rodriguez
•No special application is needed for Compassionate Allowance - the regular SSDI application is sufficient. Just make sure her medical documentation clearly states the diagnosis of pancreatic cancer with terminal prognosis. The SSA system automatically flags applications with qualifying conditions. If you're submitting online, you can note "COMPASSIONATE ALLOWANCE - PANCREATIC CANCER" in any remarks sections, but it's not strictly necessary.
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Miguel Diaz
I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks about my own disability application and keep getting disconnected or waiting for hours. If you go the SSDI route, I'd strongly recommend using Claimyr to get through to an actual human at SSA. It saved me hours of frustration - you can see how it works in their video demo: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The service connects you directly to SSA without the usual wait times. With your wife's situation being time-sensitive due to her diagnosis, it might be worth considering. Their website is claimyr.com if you want to check it out.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•Thanks for the suggestion. The phone system at SSA is incredibly frustrating. I'll check out that service if we decide to go the SSDI route.
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Zainab Ahmed
why bother with disability when shes retiring anyway? sounds like extra paperwork for not much benefit. just take the regular ss and focus on spending time together instead of dealing with government paperwork imo
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Dylan Wright
•While I understand the sentiment about reducing paperwork, SSDI could provide significantly more monthly income if she's below her Full Retirement Age. At 65, there's approximately an 8-10% reduction in benefits for early retirement. On a $2000 monthly benefit, that's $160-200 more each month with SSDI - money that could help with medical expenses or other needs during this difficult time.
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Zainab Ahmed
•oh i didnt know it was that much difference. that makes more sense then.
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Dmitry Smirnov
my mom applied for both at the same time when she got sick. the SSA person told her to do that. they approved disability first so she got that but then it automatically converted to retirement when she hit full retirement age. maybe worth asking if your wife can do the same thing?
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GalacticGuardian
So sad to hear about your wife, sending prayers. I went through something similar with my sister last year. One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your wife qualifies for SSDI, she might also qualify for a lump-sum payment for the months between application and approval. With regular retirement, you can only get 6 months of retroactive benefits max, but SSDI can go back further depending on when they establish her onset date. Just something else to consider.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•Thank you for the kind words and additional information. I hadn't heard about the retroactive payment difference. That's definitely something to consider since her condition has been affecting her ability to work consistently for several months now, even before the official diagnosis.
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Sofia Torres
DONT forget to ask about survivors benefits for YOU after she passes!!! My neighbor got widower benefits after his wife died from cancer and it really helped him!!! The SSA doesn't always tell you everything you're eligible for unless you ASK SPECIFICALLY!!!
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Ava Rodriguez
•This is excellent advice. Survivor benefits can provide 100% of the deceased spouse's benefit amount if the surviving spouse is at full retirement age. If the surviving spouse is younger, the benefit ranges from 71.5% to 99% depending on exact age. Additionally, there's a one-time death benefit of $255 that can be applied for. These benefits need to be applied for separately as they're not automatic.
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