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I'm trying to understand my options for survivor benefits as a divorced person. My ex-husband and I were married for 17 years before divorcing, and I never remarried. He's 72 now (8 years older than me) and started collecting his Social Security early at 64. I'm 64, still working, and haven't filed for my benefits yet. If he passes away before me, would I be eligible for survivor benefits as his ex-spouse? And would those benefits be based on what he's actually receiving now (reduced for early filing) or what he would have received at his full retirement age? Also, is there any way for me to find out his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) or what he's currently collecting? The SSA website isn't clear on this. One more question - if I start collecting my own SS at 65 and then he dies when I'm 68 or 69, would my survivor benefit amount be lower than if I had waited until my full retirement age (67) to start my own benefits? Thank you for any help understanding this confusing situation!
I've been planning my early retirement strategy and need some clarification about how my Social Security benefits might be affected. My plan is to stop working completely when I'm 57 and then claim my Social Security retirement benefits when I turn 62. I'm worried about those 5 years of no income right before I claim - will that significantly reduce my Social Security payment amount? I've worked consistently for about 30 years now with income usually around $65,000-$70,000 annually. I've heard Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings, but I'm not sure how those 5 years of zero income right before claiming would impact my monthly benefit. Will this plan seriously hurt my retirement income?
NO ONE IS MENTIONING THE EARNINGS TEST!!! If you claim at 62 and decide to go back to work before your Full Retirement Age, SSA will TAKE BACK $1 of benefits for every $2 you earn above the annual limit (about $22,320 in 2025). So don't assume you can just go back to work part-time without consequences if your savings run short!
One thing that might help you feel more confident about this decision is to calculate your break-even point. Since you're planning to claim at 62 instead of waiting until your Full Retirement Age (probably 67), you'll get about 70% of your full benefit. But you'll receive those payments for 5 extra years. For many people, it takes until around age 78-80 to "break even" - meaning the total lifetime benefits become equal whether you claim at 62 or wait until FRA. If you live past that break-even age, waiting would have been better financially. If you don't, claiming early was the right choice. Given that you're planning to stop working at 57 anyway, you'll need income during those gap years before claiming. Make sure you've calculated whether your savings can realistically support 5 years of expenses plus healthcare costs (which can be significant if you're not eligible for Medicare yet). Sometimes people focus so much on the Social Security calculation that they underestimate the cost of bridging to 62.
For healthcare costs from 57-65, you'll likely be looking at ACA marketplace plans since you won't have employer coverage. Costs vary widely by state and income level, but you could be looking at $800-1500+ per month for decent coverage, especially at that age. The good news is that if your retirement income is low enough, you might qualify for premium subsidies. I'd suggest using healthcare.gov's cost estimator tool and plugging in your expected retirement income to get a realistic estimate. Also consider whether your current employer offers COBRA continuation coverage - it's usually expensive but sometimes cheaper than marketplace plans for the first 18 months. Don't forget about potential out-of-pocket costs too, not just premiums!
For healthcare bridge costs from 57-65, I'd suggest checking healthcare.gov to get ACA marketplace quotes based on your expected retirement income. Without employer coverage, you're looking at potentially $800-1500+ per month for decent coverage, depending on your state and income level. Also factor in that ACA subsidies are based on your current year income - so if you have low income in retirement but high assets, you might still qualify for premium tax credits. COBRA from your last employer might be an option for the first 18 months too, though it's usually expensive. Don't forget dental and vision coverage either since those often aren't included in basic health plans. I'd budget at least $12,000-18,000 per year just for health insurance, and that's before any actual medical expenses.
First time dealing with survivor benefits after my mom passed away last month. I'm drowning in paperwork and have a phone interview with SSA scheduled next week. What documents should I have ready? They mentioned birth certificate and marriage certificate, but should I also have her death certificate, tax returns, or bank account info? Also curious how long after approval it typically takes for payments to start coming in - I'm helping my dad with this and he's worried about bills piling up. The local office is still appointment-only and the earliest they could get us in was April, so we're hoping the phone process works.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your mom. I went through this exact situation two years ago when my father passed and my mom needed to apply for survivor benefits. One thing that really helped us was creating a simple checklist before the phone interview. Beyond what others have mentioned, I'd also suggest having: - Your mom's last pay stub if she was working - Any pension or retirement account statements she had - A list of all the places she worked (dates and employers) - they sometimes ask for employment history The SSA representative was actually very patient with us during the phone interview and explained each step. Don't worry if you don't have every single document perfect - they can often work with what you have and request additional items later if needed. One heads up: they may ask your dad to estimate your mom's earnings for her final year of work, so try to have a rough idea of that. And definitely set up direct deposit during the call if possible - it makes everything much faster. The waiting is the hardest part, but in our case, mom received her first payment about 5 weeks after approval. You're being such a good advocate for your dad during this difficult time. Take care of yourself too.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience and for the thoughtful checklist idea! It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same situation. I like the suggestion about having mom's employment history ready - we have most of that information but I'll make sure to organize it clearly. The point about estimating her final year earnings is something I hadn't considered, so I'll try to gather her recent pay information. It's reassuring to hear that the SSA rep was patient and understanding during your interview. The 5-week timeline for first payment gives us a realistic expectation too. I really appreciate you taking the time to share such detailed and practical advice. It means a lot to have this community's support during such a difficult time.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I went through this same process with my mom when my dad passed away about 18 months ago. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - if your mom had any 401k or retirement accounts, bring those statements too. Sometimes they ask about other potential survivor benefits. Also, during the phone interview, they'll likely ask your dad to confirm he wants direct deposit and will need his bank routing and account numbers, so have those handy. The agent might also ask if your parents lived together continuously since marriage - it's a standard question, don't worry if it seems odd. One tip that saved us time: if you have access to your mom's my.ssa.gov account (or can create one), try to print her benefit estimate before the call. It helps them verify information faster. The whole process took about 7 weeks for us from application to first payment, but like others mentioned, they backdated everything. Your dad is lucky to have you helping him through this - it's a lot to handle while grieving. Hang in there.
Thank you for the condolences and additional insights! The point about 401k/retirement account statements is really helpful - mom did have a small 401k so I'll make sure to have that information ready. I hadn't thought about them asking about continuous cohabitation but that makes sense for verification purposes. The tip about accessing mom's my.ssa.gov account is great - I'll see if we can get into that before the interview to print her benefit estimate. Having the bank routing and account numbers ready for direct deposit setup is definitely going on our checklist. The 7-week timeline with backdating is consistent with what others have shared, which helps set realistic expectations. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and practical tips. It means so much to have this community's support and guidance during such a difficult time. You're all helping us feel much more prepared and confident going into this process.
I'm trying to figure out my sister's potential benefits since her ex recently filed for Social Security. From what I understand, there's something called the "child-in-care" rule that might help her. She's 62 and has her 15-year-old disabled son (from that marriage) living with her. Currently, her son receives $235/month in benefits on his father's record. I saw that normally taking spousal benefits at 62 means a big reduction, but I found this rule that says: "A spouse's benefit is not reduced for any month in which the spouse or divorced spouse has an entitled child in care." If her ex's primary insurance amount is $3,416 (so 50% would be $1,708), would she actually get the full $1,708 at age 62 because of the child-in-care exception? Or am I misunderstanding something? The local SSA office gave her conflicting information when she called.
Thank you all for the great information! I've helped my sister make an appointment with SSA. We'll make sure to bring documentation about her son's disability status and her caregiving role. It sounds like she should be eligible for the full 50% without reduction, minus any adjustment for her part-time earnings. One last question - will she need her ex's SSN for the application or can SSA find that information based on her son's existing benefit?
Since her son is already receiving benefits on the ex's record, SSA already has all the necessary information linked in their system. She doesn't need to provide the ex's SSN again. But she should bring her own ID, the child's ID, proof of the child's disability (medical records, prior SSA determination letters), and documentation showing she provides care for the child. Also, having her divorce decree on hand may be helpful, though not always required if the relationship is already established in SSA's system through the child's benefit.
Great job helping your sister navigate this complex situation! Just wanted to add one more important detail - make sure she asks specifically about the "child-in-care" provision when she goes to her appointment. Sometimes SSA representatives aren't immediately familiar with this rule and might initially tell her she'll get reduced benefits at 62. If she gets pushback, she can reference POMS RS 00615.201 which covers divorced spouse benefits with child in care. Also, bring a copy of the child's current benefit award letter showing he's receiving benefits on his father's record - this helps establish the connection quickly. Good luck with the appointment!
My brother (47) was approved for SSDI last year after his MS progressed to the point he couldn't work anymore. Now our uncle passed away and left him about $45,000 in his will. I'm worried this might affect his disability benefits because I remember reading something about asset limits for government assistance. Does SSDI have a limit on how much money or assets you can have in your accounts? It's different from SSI, right? My brother is terrified of losing his Medicare coverage if he accepts this inheritance. He's also wondering if putting the money in some kind of special needs trust would help protect his benefits. Any insights from folks who understand these rules would be really appreciated!
To summarize for anyone else who finds this thread: - SSDI: No asset limits. No limits on unearned income (inheritance, investments, gifts, lottery). Only limits on earned income from working. - SSI: Strict asset limit of $2,000 for individuals. Almost all income, earned or unearned, can reduce benefits. I've seen this confusion cause so much unnecessary stress for people. The programs have similar names but completely different rules.
Yuki Kobayashi
Just a quick clarification that might help others reading this thread - the survivor benefit for a divorced spouse follows the same rules as for a current spouse, IF the marriage lasted at least 10 years. The key difference is that for a divorced spouse claiming survivor benefits, you can claim as early as age 60 regardless of whether your ex has filed for benefits or not (unlike spousal benefits while they're alive, which require the worker to have filed). Also worth noting that remarriage after 60 doesn't prevent you from claiming survivor benefits on your ex's record. This trips up a lot of people who think any remarriage would disqualify them.
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Nia Wilson
AuthorThat's really interesting about remarriage after 60 not affecting survivor benefits! I didn't know that at all. I'm not planning to remarry, but it's good information to have. Thank you for adding that clarification.
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Amina Toure
One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - if you're still working at 64, you should also consider the earnings test impact on any benefits you might claim before your full retirement age. If you earn over the annual limit ($22,320 for 2024), Social Security will reduce your benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above that threshold. This applies to both your own retirement benefits AND survivor benefits if claimed before FRA. So if you're planning to keep working, it might make sense to delay claiming until you either reduce your earnings or reach full retirement age, depending on your specific financial situation. Also, don't forget that as a divorced spouse, you have the advantage of being able to claim survivor benefits without your ex-spouse having to file first (unlike spousal benefits while he's alive). This gives you more flexibility in timing your claim.
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