When should higher-earning spouse claim Social Security with WEP-affected spouse & family longevity?
I've been doing some retirement planning and keep second-guessing my Social Security filing strategy. I'm the higher income earner in our household (est. PIA around $3,200/month) and my husband's benefits are affected by Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) since he worked for a state government that didn't pay into Social Security. He's currently at 35 quarters of coverage and might reach 40 quarters before we retire, but it's not guaranteed. My family has serious longevity genes - my mother is 87 and still traveling internationally, and both grandmothers lived past 95. However, I've had some cardiac issues that required surgery last year. I'm currently 57 and planning to stop working around 62, with sufficient 401k/IRA assets to cover expenses until whenever I decide to take SS benefits. My husband is 54 (three years younger) and will likely retire when I do. Given my family longevity but personal health concerns, plus my husband's WEP situation, when should I claim? The math seems to favor delaying until 70 for the 8% annual increases, but I'm drawn to claiming earlier since my retirement assets could be inherited by my children if unused, while unclaimed SS benefits just disappear if I die before claiming. Does anyone have experience with this specific situation?
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Heather Tyson
Have u thought abt the fact that ur husband can get spousal benefits off YOUR record if hes WEP affected? That could change your thinking!!! I think u should claim at FRA (prolly 67 for u?) and then he can get half of your benefit when he hits 62 if that works out better than his own. But if he gets to 40 credits he might do better with his own benefit + WEP reduction? Hard to say without the #s.
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Paloma Clark
•Thank you! I hadn't fully understood how his spousal benefits would work with the WEP situation. I'll need to compare which would be better for him. Do you know if his spousal benefit would be reduced if he claims at 62 vs. waiting until his own FRA?
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Raul Neal
This is actually a complex situation that requires some mathematical analysis. First, let's clarify a few things: 1) If your husband reaches 40 quarters, he'll still be subject to WEP, but his benefit will be calculated based on the modified formula. The WEP reduction is capped at $512 in 2025. 2) As the spouse with higher earnings, your decision affects both your benefits and potentially his spousal benefits. 3) Given your family longevity, statistically you would benefit from delaying until 70. The breakeven age compared to claiming at 62 would be approximately 80-82. 4) However, your cardiac issues create a medical wild card. One strategy to consider: You claim at your FRA (likely 67), which allows your husband to claim spousal benefits when he reaches 62. This balances longevity considerations with accessing benefits during your lifetime. Your husband should definitely continue working until reaching 40 quarters if possible, as this would significantly improve his own benefit calculation.
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Jenna Sloan
•This advice doesn't make any sense. If she has health issues she should ABSOLUTELY claim at 62!!! By 70 she could be DEAD and all that money just goes back to the govt! Take it early and enjoy it while you can, thats what I did.
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Raul Neal
•While claiming early is right for some, it's important to look at the complete picture. If she lives to 85 (still below her family's typical longevity), she'd receive approximately $150,000 more in lifetime benefits by waiting until 70 versus claiming at 62. These are permanently reduced benefits we're talking about. Additionally, if she predeceases her husband, his survivor benefits would be based on her benefit amount - another reason to consider maximizing her benefit.
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Christian Burns
I was in a somewhat similar situation (higher earner with longevity + spouse with pension issues). The thing I wish someone had told me about earlier was the RESTRICTED APPLICATION strategy but idk if that's even available anymore? Something about being born before 1954? Have you looked at any of those Social Security calculator programs? I used Maximize My Social Security and it showed me a strategy I hadn't considered where one of us filed early and one delayed. Cost $40 but saved us like $60k in lifetime benefits!!!!
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Raul Neal
•You've raised a good point, but unfortunately, the restricted application strategy (filing for spousal benefits while letting your own benefit grow) is only available to those born before January 2, 1954. Based on the ages mentioned, neither spouse would qualify for this strategy. However, using a good Social Security calculator is excellent advice for finding the optimal filing strategy given their specific circumstances.
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Sasha Reese
Wait as long as possible!!! My mom took SS at 62 and now at 89 she regrets it every month when that smaller check comes in. If you've got longevity in your family and money to live on, waiting until 70 is almost always better. Every year you wait is an 8% increase FOR LIFE. No investment gives you that guaranteed return with government backing!!!
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Muhammad Hobbs
•I disagree completely. Both my parents waited til 68 to file and BOTH died at 72!!! They lost out on thousands they could have enjoyed. NO ONE knows when they're gonna die even with "family history" - cardiac issues are serious! Take the money when you can get it.
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Noland Curtis
The question isn't just about YOUR benefit but also about maximizing your husband's options. If he doesn't get to 40 credits, his own benefit will be minimal. But as your spouse, he'd be eligible for spousal benefits (up to 50% of your PIA) and later survivor benefits (up to 100% of whatever you're receiving when you pass away). This creates a strong case for you to delay until at least your FRA, possibly to 70. If you claim at 62, both your benefit AND his eventual survivor benefit would be permanently reduced. Your assets going to your children is a valid consideration, but remember that SS provides inflation-protected income that can't be outlived. No matter how long you live, SS keeps paying, which protects against your assets being depleted if you live to 95+ like your grandmothers. Also consider that if you delay claiming and die before 70, your husband would still receive survivor benefits based on what you WOULD have received at 70 (assuming you were at least 62 when you died).
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Paloma Clark
•That last point is really important and I hadn't realized that! So even if I delay claiming and die at 68, my husband would get survivor benefits based on my age-70 benefit amount? That definitely changes my thinking about the risk of losing out on benefits by delaying.
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Heather Tyson
Sorry to intrude but have u tried calling the SS office to ask them? I tried to do that last month and was on hold FOREVER and kept getting disconnected! So frustrating!!!
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Noland Curtis
•I've had the same experience trying to reach SSA. Since OP has a complex situation with WEP factors and spousal coordination, talking to an expert at SSA would be valuable. I recently discovered a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get through to a live Social Security agent without the endless hold times. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU showing how it works. Since this situation involves making decisions worth potentially hundreds of thousands in lifetime benefits, it might be worth getting official guidance from SSA directly.
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Jenna Sloan
Just my 2 cents - everybody's situation is different. My wife and I decided I'd file at 62 and she'd wait til 70 since her benefit was bigger. Worked great for us, we're 15 years into retirement and no regrets. Health problems can change everything tho so dont just think about the math, think about QUALITY OF LIFE!!
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Paloma Clark
•That's a good perspective, thank you. Were there any unexpected issues you ran into with your strategy that I should be aware of? Did your wife's larger benefit at 70 end up being worth the wait?
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Jenna Sloan
•Absolutely worth it! Her benefit at 70 was nearly DOUBLE what it would've been at 62. The only surprise was Medicare premiums - they're higher than we expected and keep going up every year. But having one bigger check helps with that.
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Muhammad Hobbs
Has anyone mentioned survivor benefits yet? This is HUGE in your planning! When one spouse dies, the surviving spouse basically continues with the HIGHER of the two benefit amounts. So if you delay till 70 and get say $4200/month, then pass away, your husband would get that $4200/month for the rest of HIS life (assuming it's higher than his own benefit). So even if you delay and don't live super long, your husband could benefit from your higher amount for DECADES, especially with that 3 year age difference. This is especially important with his WEP situation limiting his own benefit.
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Sasha Reese
•This is so important! My friend's husband delayed till 70 then died at 74. She was devastated BUT she's now getting his maximum benefit at age 82 and will for many more years. His delaying ended up being a gift to her.
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