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Can ex-wife claim Social Security spousal benefits after second divorce?

I'm trying to understand the ex-spouse Social Security rules. My ex-wife and I were married for 17 years before divorcing in 2019. She remarried some guy in 2021 but that marriage only lasted about a year before they divorced. Now she's asking me about claiming benefits on my record when we both hit retirement age. I thought once someone remarries, they permanently lose the ability to claim on their first ex-spouse's record? But she's insisting that since her second marriage ended, she can go back to claiming on my record when the time comes. Is this true? Does her short second marriage affect her ability to claim on my earnings record? I'm turning 62 next year and want to understand what I'm dealing with here.

Dmitry Petrov

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Your ex-wife is actually correct. According to SSA rules, if someone remarries, they lose eligibility for ex-spouse benefits from a previous marriage WHILE they're married. But if that second marriage ends (by death, divorce, or annulment), they can once again become eligible to collect on the first ex-spouse's record - assuming they meet all other requirements (like the 10-year marriage duration, which you do at 17 years). Since her second marriage ended in divorce, she regains the ability to file for spousal benefits on your record when she's eligible (generally at 62, though reduced benefits), as long as you're eligible for benefits and she remains unmarried.

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StormChaser

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Wait, really? So she can just bounce between marriages and keep the option to claim on mine? That seems unfair somehow. Does it matter that her second marriage was so short? And what if she remarries again in the future?

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Ava Williams

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My sister went thru this exact thing!! She was married 15 yrs to her 1st husband, got remarried for 3 yrs, divorced again, and now collects on 1st husbands record. SS told her as long as she's currently unmarried she can go back to claiming on 1st ex husband

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Miguel Castro

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This is exactly right. I used to work for SSA and handled these cases often. The key factors are: 1) marriage to first spouse lasted at least 10 years, 2) currently unmarried, and 3) the benefit from the ex-spouse's record is higher than what they'd get on their own. The duration of the second marriage is completely irrelevant - could be 1 year or 1 month. As long as she's not currently married when she applies, she can claim on your record.

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Zainab Ibrahim

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Does anyone know if there's a waiting period after the second divorce before she can claim on the first ex's record? I thought there was some kind of 2-year waiting period or something like that???

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Connor O'Neill

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There's no waiting period after a second divorce before claiming on a previous spouse's record. You might be confusing it with the rule that says if you're divorced and want to claim on an ex-spouse's record, you need to have been divorced for at least 2 years UNLESS your ex is already receiving benefits. That's a common misconception. In this case, since the original poster mentioned he's turning 62 next year, if he files for benefits, his ex can immediately file for ex-spouse benefits (assuming she's at least 62 as well). If he doesn't file, she'd need to wait until they've been divorced for 2 years, but it sounds like that requirement is already met since they divorced in 2019.

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LunarEclipse

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SOCIAL SECURITY DOESNT CARE ABOUT FAIRNESS!!!!! I was married 9 years and 11 months and get NOTHING from my ex's record even though he makes 3X what I do. ONE MONTH SHORT and I lose thousands$$$ in benefits. Meanwhile your ex can remarry and divorce 5 times and still claim on yours as long as your marriage was 10+ years. The whole system is rigged!!!

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Yara Khalil

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I understand your frustration with missing the 10-year mark by just one month. It does seem arbitrary, but Social Security has to draw the line somewhere. For the original poster though, his situation is different - the 17-year marriage clearly qualifies for ex-spouse benefits. To clarify for everyone: if someone was married for at least 10 years before divorcing, they can claim on their ex's record if they're unmarried at the time of application. Previous marriages after the divorce don't permanently disqualify them - it's only their marital status at the time they apply and receive benefits that matters.

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StormChaser

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I've been trying to call SSA directly to get a definitive answer but keep getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Their website isn't clear about this specific situation. Is there any way to actually reach a human being at Social Security these days?

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Connor O'Neill

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Ava Williams

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does it matter if shes working?? my friend said theres a earnings limit or something if shes not at full retirement age??

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Dmitry Petrov

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Good point! Yes, the earnings test applies to ex-spousal benefits just like regular benefits. If she's under her Full Retirement Age (FRA) and working, her benefits can be reduced if she earns above certain limits ($21,240 in 2025). Also, she should know that if she claims before her FRA (which is likely 67 for someone in this age range), her spousal benefit will be permanently reduced. At FRA, an ex-spouse can get up to 50% of the worker's benefit, but it's reduced for early claiming. Finally, she can only get ex-spousal benefits if they're higher than what she qualifies for on her own record. Social Security automatically pays the higher amount.

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Zainab Ibrahim

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Just to make sure I understand - if they were married 17 years, then she can get up to 50% of his benefit amount at her full retirement age? Does he have to be taking his benefits already for her to claim?

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Miguel Castro

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Not necessarily. For divorced spouse benefits, the ex-husband doesn't need to be receiving his benefits yet AS LONG AS he's eligible for benefits (at least 62) AND they've been divorced for at least 2 years. Since they divorced in 2019, that 2-year requirement is met. So once they're both at least 62, she could file for divorced spouse benefits even if he hasn't filed for his own benefits yet. This is different from current spouse benefits, where the worker generally must file first. And yes, at her FRA she can get up to 50% of his PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). If she files earlier, it will be reduced permanently.

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Yara Khalil

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One important point that hasn't been mentioned: if your ex-wife worked enough to qualify for her own Social Security retirement benefits, she'll receive whichever is higher - her own benefit or the ex-spousal benefit (up to 50% of yours). She doesn't get both added together. This means if her own work record would give her more than 50% of your benefit amount, the ex-spousal benefit becomes irrelevant. Many people don't realize this and think they'll get their own benefit plus 50% of their ex's benefit, which isn't how it works. Also, if she does qualify for her own benefit but it's less than the ex-spousal amount, she'll receive her own benefit plus the difference to reach the higher amount.

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StormChaser

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That makes more sense. She worked as a teacher for most of our marriage but in a state where teachers don't pay into Social Security, so she probably has limited SS credits from other jobs. I bet that's why she's so interested in claiming on my record.

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Miguel Castro

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If she was a teacher in a non-Social Security state, she may be affected by the Government Pension Offset (GPO). This could reduce or eliminate any Social Security spousal or survivor benefits she might be eligible for based on your record. The GPO typically reduces Social Security spousal benefits by two-thirds of the government pension. So if she receives a teacher's pension of $1,500 per month, her Social Security spousal benefit would be reduced by $1,000. She should contact SSA directly to understand how GPO might affect her specific situation, as this could significantly impact her benefits planning.

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StormChaser

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Wow, I had no idea about this GPO thing. She does receive a teacher's pension, so this could change everything. No wonder the SSA phone lines are always busy - these rules are incredibly complicated! I definitely need to speak with someone who can explain all this based on our specific situation.

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