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Social Security earnings limit when starting benefits mid-year in June - how does it work?

I just turned 64 and I'm planning to start my Social Security retirement benefits this June. I'm still working part-time, and I'm confused about how the annual earnings limit works when you start collecting in the middle of the year. Does everything I earned from January through May count toward the yearly limit? Or does the limit only apply to what I earn after my benefits begin in June? My HR department wasn't much help, and I'm worried about getting hit with unexpected benefit reductions. I make about $1,900 a month at my job and plan to continue working after I start collecting. Thanks for any guidance!

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! This is much clearer now. I'll make sure to stay under the $1,950 monthly limit after I start collecting in June, and I won't worry about what I earned earlier in the year. I really appreciate all the advice!

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Just wanted to add that it's a good idea to keep detailed records of your monthly earnings after you start benefits. I recommend creating a simple spreadsheet or using a notebook to track your gross wages each month - this will help you stay under the $1,950 limit and give you documentation if SSA ever questions your earnings. Also, if you have any months where you might go over (like if you get overtime or a bonus), you can always reduce your hours that month to stay under the limit. The key is being proactive about monitoring it!

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Self-employment income reporting with Social Security at 62 - staying under earnings limit?

I'm turning 62 next April and planning to retire from my psychology practice at a community mental health center. Due to some ongoing medical issues and a significant home repair situation, I need to start collecting Social Security right away instead of waiting. However, I still want to keep a few long-term clients and maybe do some assessments on the side - basically part-time private practice work. My big worry is how to manage the earnings limit (which I think is around $22,320 for 2025?). With private practice, my income comes in sporadically - sometimes I might get several insurance payments at once, or a client pays for multiple sessions. Plus I have ongoing expenses like malpractice insurance ($4,200/year), electronic health record system ($185/month), office rent ($650/month), and continuing education requirements. How exactly does SSA calculate self-employment income against the earnings limit? Do I report based on net profit after expenses? How often do I need to report it? I'm terrified of accidentally going over the limit and then owing a bunch of money back to Social Security. Any advice from self-employed folks who've navigated this successfully?

Thank you all for the incredibly helpful advice! I feel much more prepared now. I'll plan to: 1. Talk to my CPA about quarterly tracking 2. Create a spreadsheet with a 15% buffer below the limit 3. Track both service dates and payment dates 4. Report estimated earnings when I initially apply 5. Use Claimyr if I need to actually speak with someone at SSA One last question - does anyone know if there's a specific form or process for updating SSA if my earnings projection changes during the year?

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You can report changes to your earnings estimate by calling SSA or visiting an office. There's no special online process for this unfortunately. You can use form SSA-795 (Statement of Claimant) to document the change, either in person or by mail. Keep a copy of everything you submit. If you call, get the representative's name and make notes about what was discussed and any instructions they provide.

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As someone who just went through this transition myself, I want to add one important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - keep ALL your documentation organized from day one. I created a simple filing system with folders for: - Monthly income/expense tracking sheets - All correspondence with SSA (including phone call notes with dates/rep names) - Quarterly estimated tax payments and calculations - Any forms submitted (SSA-795, etc.) This saved me so much stress during my year-end reconciliation. Also, I found it helpful to send SSA my earnings updates via certified mail rather than just calling - creates a paper trail that both you and they can reference later. The peace of mind from having everything documented is worth the extra effort, especially when you're already dealing with the stress of transitioning to retirement while managing ongoing client responsibilities.

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Social Security Survivor Benefits after WEP/GPO Fairness Act - Can I get both deceased and disabled spouse benefits?

After 37 years of confusion with Social Security, I'm hoping someone can help me understand my options with the new WEP/GPO Fairness Act! My situation: - Lost my first husband in 1985 when I was 29, left with a 3-year-old son - Worked for county government my entire career (no SS withholding) - Retired in 2019 with my government pension - Applied for survivor benefits from first husband in 2019, was approved but got $0 due to GPO - First husband's benefit was calculated at approximately $1,350/month (he died young) - Remarried at age 61 to my current husband - Current husband became disabled in 2022 and receives SSDI of about $1,750/month With the WEP/GPO Fairness Act signed, I understand I'm now eligible for benefits, but I have so many questions: 1) When I get my first husband's survivor benefits, will they include all the COLAs since my 2019 application? They approved me back then but I got $0 due to GPO. 2) Since my current husband is on SSDI, am I eligible for spousal benefits on his record instead? Would that be 50% of his amount? 3) Can I choose whichever is higher between my deceased husband's survivor benefit and my disabled husband's spousal benefit? I called SSA but they said even employees don't have clear guidance until March. The rep suggested not applying for current spouse benefits yet as it might "confuse things." So confused and don't want to mess anything up!

To answer your follow-up question about documentation - yes, you should also include proof of your current marriage even if you're taking widow's benefits from your first husband. Here's why: SSA needs to verify that you remarried after age 60, which preserves your eligibility for widow's benefits. Without proof of when your current marriage occurred, they might incorrectly assume you're ineligible for the first husband's benefits. This is especially important in cases involving both GPO and multiple potential benefit sources. The more complete your documentation is upfront, the less likely you'll face delays or incorrect determinations.

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Thank you! That makes perfect sense. I'll make sure to include my current marriage certificate as well. Better to provide too much documentation than not enough and face delays. I really appreciate everyone's help with navigating this complicated situation!

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I'm in a similar boat with the GPO mess! Worked for the state for 30 years and couldn't get my late husband's benefits even though I paid into SS for 15 years before switching to government work. One thing I learned from my local SSA office visit last week - they said to NOT file any new applications right now because it could mess up your existing file. Since you already have an approved application from 2019, you're in good shape. They'll just need to recalculate your benefit amount without the GPO offset. The agent told me they're expecting to start processing GPO adjustments in batches starting around May, with payments potentially beginning in June. She said people with existing approved applications (like you) will likely be processed first before new applicants. Also heard from someone at my retirement group that the retroactive payments might go back to January 2025 when the law took effect, but that's not confirmed yet. Cross your fingers! Hang in there - we've waited this long, we can wait a few more months to finally get what we deserve!

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Can I file for retroactive Social Security benefits after turning 70 in August 2024?

Just had my 70th birthday at the end of August and still haven't filed for my Social Security! I've been working and completely lost track of time with everything going on. Now I'm wondering if I can file retroactively to get those August benefits. Also, for tax planning purposes, I'd prefer to receive any lump sum payment in 2025 rather than 2024. Is there a specific time I should file to make that happen? And one more thing - I've got my SSA account set up online but might need to gather some documents. Can I start the application now and come back to finish it later? Thanks for any advice!

Before you file, you might want to gather these documents to make the process smoother: - Your birth certificate or passport - Your Social Security card (if available) - Your most recent W-2 or tax return - Direct deposit information (routing and account numbers) - Marriage certificate if you've been married Having these ready will help whether you complete the application in one sitting or save it to finish later.

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Thank you for the checklist! I have most of these documents readily available. I'll make sure to have everything organized before I start the application process.

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Just wanted to add one more consideration - if you're still working and earning income, make sure to factor in the earnings test. Even though you're past 70 and the earnings test no longer applies to you going forward, it could affect your retroactive benefits if you had significant earnings in the months you're claiming retroactively (August onward). The earnings test for 2024 is $59,520 annually ($4,960 monthly) for those who reached FRA. Since you're claiming retroactive benefits for months when you were working, SSA will need to verify your earnings for those months. Just something to keep in mind when you apply!

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IRMAA increase for 2025 - What form to file after job loss? SSA-44 vs SSA-561-U2?

I lost my job unexpectedly in March 2024 and started collecting Social Security survivor benefits in May. Now I'm seeing my Medicare Part B premium is jumping to $315/month for 2025 because of IRMAA (based on my 2022 income when I was still working). I'm completely confused about which form to file to get this reduced! Medicare told me this was Social Security's territory and I'm waiting for a callback. Last year, I filed some form (pretty sure it was SSA-44) at my local office after being laid off, and my 2024 premium stayed at the standard $190. But the letter I just got says I should file SSA-561-U2, which looks like an appeal form? Should I be using SSA-44 again since this is a life-changing event (job loss)? Other pressing questions: - When will the higher premium start getting deducted? January check? - Can I just drop forms off at my local office or is that a waste of time? - If it takes months to process and I pay the higher amount, will they reimburse me? - How long does this process usually take? I'm living on a tight budget between my survivor benefits and a small pension, and an extra $125/month is a serious hit. I've got my termination letter ready to attach to whichever form is the right one. Thanks for any help sorting this out!

I just went through this exact situation last month! You definitely need the SSA-44 form - I made the same mistake initially and tried to use the SSA-561 because that's what the letter suggested. The SSA-44 is specifically designed for life-changing events like job loss that affect your IRMAA. A few tips from my experience: - File it ASAP since the higher premium will start with your January payment - Make copies of everything before you submit - I hand-delivered mine to the local office and got a stamped receipt - highly recommend this over mailing - Processing took about 8 weeks for me, so budget for paying the higher amount for 2-3 months - They did reimburse me for the overpayments once it was approved The documentation you'll need: termination letter (which you have), final pay stub, and make sure to note the exact date your job ended. They're very particular about dates and documentation. One more thing - if your 2023 tax return already shows reduced income from your job loss partway through that year, double-check if you even need to file the SSA-44. Sometimes the two-year lookback period works in your favor if your income was already lower in 2023. Good luck! The process is frustrating but they do eventually get it sorted out.

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Just want to echo what everyone else has said about using the SSA-44 form - that's definitely the right one for your situation. I went through this exact same process two years ago when I lost my job, and while it's frustrating to deal with, it does get resolved eventually. A couple of additional tips that helped me: - When you go to the local office, try to go early in the morning right when they open. The lines get crazy later in the day. - Ask the person who takes your paperwork to verify they have everything they need before you leave. Better to find out you're missing something right then than have to make another trip. - Keep checking your Medicare.gov account online - sometimes the IRMAA adjustment shows up there before you get any official notification. The whole system of basing premiums on two-year-old income is ridiculous, but at least there's a process to fix it when life happens. Hang in there - the reimbursement check when it finally comes through feels pretty good after dealing with all this hassle!

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These are all such helpful tips, Emma! I especially like the advice about going early in the morning - I hadn't thought about timing but that makes total sense. And checking Medicare.gov for updates is brilliant, I'll definitely be monitoring that. It's really reassuring to hear from so many people who have successfully navigated this process, even though it's frustrating that we all have to deal with it in the first place. The two-year lookback rule really doesn't make sense for people whose circumstances have changed dramatically. I'm feeling much more confident about tackling this now thanks to everyone's shared experiences. Going to get my SSA-44 completed this weekend and head to the local office first thing Monday morning with all my documentation. Fingers crossed for a smooth process!

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