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As someone new to this community, I'm really impressed by the comprehensive advice and support everyone has provided here! I'm actually in the early stages of considering adopting my great-nephew (age 5) who currently receives survivor benefits from his father, so this entire discussion has been incredibly valuable for understanding what we might face. One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - I recently attended a Social Security workshop at our local senior center, and the presenter mentioned something called a "protective filing" that can sometimes be useful in complex situations like this. Essentially, if you think you might be eligible for benefits but aren't sure about timing or documentation, you can file a protective claim that preserves your potential entitlement date while you gather everything needed for a formal application. This might be worth asking about when you meet with SSA, especially given the timing considerations several people have mentioned regarding applying for retirement benefits before or after the adoption is finalized. Also, @Zara Ahmed, I noticed you mentioned planning retirement "within the next year or two" - you might want to check if either you or your wife will qualify for any special timing considerations since you're caring for a child under 16. Sometimes this can affect the optimal timing for benefit applications. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread has become such a comprehensive guide for families navigating these complex benefit situations!

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Welcome to the community! Thank you for bringing up the "protective filing" concept - that's something I hadn't heard of before, but it sounds like it could be really valuable given all the timing considerations that have been discussed in this thread. I'll definitely ask SSA about this when we meet with them, especially since there seems to be some strategic thinking involved around whether to apply for retirement benefits before or after the adoption is finalized. Your point about special timing considerations for caring for a child under 16 is really intriguing too. I hadn't considered that our grandson's age might create additional options or considerations for when we apply for benefits. That's definitely something we'll need to explore further with SSA. It's wonderful that you're considering adopting your great-nephew! The fact that you're researching all of this ahead of time shows you're being just as thoughtful about his future as we're trying to be with our grandson. Based on everything I've learned from this amazing community, it seems like children in these situations are generally well-protected benefit-wise, but the planning and documentation are definitely key to ensuring a smooth transition. That Social Security workshop at your senior center sounds like it was really valuable. I'm wondering if our local senior center offers anything similar - it might be worth looking into for additional perspective beyond what we get directly from SSA. Thank you for adding your insights to this discussion. This community has truly been an incredible resource for navigating these complex situations!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm incredibly grateful to have found this comprehensive discussion! I'm currently in a similar situation with my adopted daughter (age 7) who receives survivor benefits from her biological mother, and my husband and I are approaching retirement age. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so enlightening, especially the practical tips about documentation and the various SSA processes involved. One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful - I recently learned from our local AARP chapter that they offer free Social Security counseling sessions where trained volunteers can help you understand benefit calculations and timing strategies. This might be a good complement to meeting directly with SSA, especially for getting a second opinion on the complex benefit interactions you're dealing with. Also, based on what I've read here, I'm planning to create what I'm calling a "benefits roadmap" that outlines all the key decision points and timelines for our situation. This would include things like optimal retirement filing dates, when to notify SSA about the adoption, and what documents to prepare at each stage. It seems like having this kind of strategic overview could help avoid some of the confusion and delays others have experienced. @Zara Ahmed - your proactive approach to researching this thoroughly before the adoption is finalized is so smart! This thread has become such an invaluable resource for families in complex benefit situations. Thank you to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - it's made me feel much more confident about navigating our own path forward.

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I'm a family law attorney who has worked on Social Security benefit cases, and I want to strongly encourage you not to give up yet. The advice you've received here about checking the exact legal dates is absolutely critical. I've seen cases where couples believed they had divorced and remarried when legally they never actually completed the first divorce due to procedural issues, missing signatures, or filing errors. Also, pay close attention to whether your state requires a waiting period after filing for divorce before it becomes final - some states have 30, 60, or even 90-day waiting periods. If you reconciled and remarried during that waiting period, you may have had one continuous marriage legally speaking. Additionally, check if your first divorce decree contained any language about "interlocutory" vs "final" decrees - some jurisdictions issue preliminary divorce orders that don't become final until additional steps are completed. I'd also recommend requesting a complete file from the court clerk's office for both divorce proceedings, not just the final decrees. Sometimes there are amended orders, continuances, or other documents that could affect the timeline. Given that you were married 11 years total to the same person, this is definitely worth pursuing thoroughly before accepting that you don't qualify.

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This legal perspective is incredibly valuable! As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, I had no idea there could be so many procedural complexities that might affect marriage duration calculations. The distinction between "interlocutory" and "final" divorce decrees is something I definitely need to investigate - I honestly don't even remember what type of decree we received initially. Your point about requesting the complete court file rather than just the final decrees is really smart advice. I'm realizing I might have been looking at this too simplistically by just focusing on the dates I remembered rather than the actual legal timeline. The fact that you've seen cases where couples thought they had divorced but legally hadn't due to procedural issues gives me hope that there might be some technicality in my situation too. I'm going to follow everyone's advice here and get all the certified documents, then bring everything to my local SSA office for a thorough review. Thank you for reinforcing that this is worth pursuing thoroughly - having a family law attorney's perspective really helps me understand how complex these situations can actually be!

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I'm a Social Security benefits coordinator at a nonprofit that helps seniors navigate the system, and I want to add one more important consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet. When you go to your local SSA field office with all your documentation, ask specifically to speak with a Claims Specialist or Technical Expert rather than a general service representative. These specialists have advanced training in complex cases and access to detailed policy manuals that can make all the difference in situations like yours. Also, if your initial review doesn't go in your favor, don't be afraid to ask for a supervisor or request that they document their decision in writing with specific policy citations. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes or someone with more experience can spot something that was missed initially. I've seen cases where the first representative said "no way" but a supervisor or specialist found a pathway to approval. Given all the excellent advice in this thread about potential legal technicalities with your divorce/remarriage timeline, I'm cautiously optimistic that there might be something there for you. The key is getting the right person at SSA to do a thorough review with someone who really knows the ins and outs of these complex marriage duration rules.

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This is such practical advice about requesting to speak with a Claims Specialist or Technical Expert! As someone new to navigating the Social Security system, I wouldn't have known to ask for someone with specialized training rather than just accepting whatever representative I get assigned. The tip about asking for written documentation of their decision with policy citations is also really smart - that way if I need to appeal or get a second opinion, I'll have something concrete to reference. I'm feeling much more prepared now after reading all the advice in this thread. It sounds like I have a real action plan: get all the certified court documents, request the complete case files, schedule an appointment at my local field office, ask for a specialist, and don't give up if the first person says no. Even if it doesn't work out in my favor, at least I'll know I explored every possible angle. Thank you for adding this guidance about how to navigate the actual SSA appointment - it's going to make a huge difference in how I approach this!

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I'm also navigating SSI issues as a newcomer here and this thread has been incredibly informative. What strikes me is how many families are dealing with this exact same problem - it seems like there's a real gap in how SSA handles custody changes and ensures benefits follow the child's actual living situation. For anyone starting this process, I'd suggest creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything: dates your child is with you, expenses you cover, medical appointments, therapy sessions, school activities, etc. Having this organized from day one will make the SSA application much smoother. Also, if your custody agreement specifies overnight percentages like 70/30, make sure you have certified copies - SSA will want official documentation. One question for those who have been through this: did any of you face retaliation from the other parent during the process? I'm worried about potential complications with visitation or other custody issues while pursuing the payee change.

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That's a great suggestion about the spreadsheet - I wish I had started tracking everything systematically from the beginning! Regarding your concern about retaliation, I haven't gone through this process yet but from reading other people's experiences here, it seems like SSA makes decisions based on what's best for the child, not the parents' relationship dynamics. @Carmen Lopez mentioned that SSA doesn t'require the other parent s'permission for the change, which is reassuring. @Julia Hall also noted that you don t need'your ex s cooperation.'I d suggest'documenting any attempts at retaliation too, as that could actually work in your favor if it shows the other parent is putting their own interests above the child s welfare.'The key seems to be keeping everything focused on your child s needs'and living situation rather than the conflict between parents.

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I'm new to this community but have been following this discussion closely as I'm in a very similar situation. My 13-year-old son with intellectual disabilities receives SSI, but his mother is the representative payee even though he lives with me about 65% of the time following our recent custody modification. Reading through all these responses has given me so much valuable information - especially about Form SSA-11 and the fact that SSA typically prefers to assign payee status to whoever has majority physical custody. I had no idea about the annual Representative Payee Report requirement either, or that SSA can investigate how current benefits are being used. What really resonates with me is how many families are dealing with this exact issue. It seems like there's a systemic problem where SSA doesn't automatically review payee arrangements when custody situations change. I'm definitely going to start documenting everything like everyone has suggested - expenses, overnight stays, medical appointments, therapy sessions - and look into that Claimyr service to actually get through to SSA. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and advice. It's encouraging to know that others have successfully navigated this process and gotten the benefits properly allocated to follow their child's actual living situation. The money should be supporting our kids wherever they spend their time, not just benefiting one parent's household.

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Welcome to the community! Your situation with 65% custody definitely gives you strong grounds for becoming the representative payee. I'm also new here and have learned so much from this thread - it's eye-opening how common this issue is and how many families are struggling with the same problem. The systematic documentation approach everyone's mentioned seems crucial. I'm going to start that spreadsheet tracking method @Dmitry Popov suggested right away. It s'really encouraging to see that multiple people have successfully gone through this process, even when it seemed daunting at first. One thing that stood out to me from @Julia Hall s advice'is that SSA will investigate the current payee s use'of funds during the process. That seems like it could work in our favor if we can show we re covering'the majority of our children s expenses'while the benefits aren t being'used proportionally. Best of luck with your case - it sounds like you have all the right elements in place with the custody modification and majority physical custody. Keep us updated on how it goes!

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I'm dealing with this exact same frustrating situation right now! Been trying to get my Social Security retirement benefits processed through the Manila FBU for almost 2 months at age 68, and it's been an absolute nightmare. The phone system is completely broken - I've called during their supposed "office hours" at least 15 times and never once reached a human being. This thread is pure gold! I'm taking screenshots of every strategy mentioned here. The combination of @Jamal Wilson's urgent email format, @Ayla Kumar's congressional inquiry approach, @Mei Chen's ACS contact method, @Michael Green's VPN tip for MySocialSecurity setup, @Alexis Renard's fax number, and @GalaxyGlider's main SSA customer service backup plan gives me so much hope. I'm particularly worried because I'm already well past my FRA and feel like I'm losing money every day this drags on. But reading that multiple people here eventually succeeded with full retroactive payments is incredibly reassuring. One additional tip I discovered: If you have any military connections (active duty, veterans, or DoD civilian employees), they sometimes have access to expedited federal benefits processing channels through their personnel offices. My brother-in-law is retired Navy and is looking into this angle for me. Planning to implement the complete multi-channel strategy starting tomorrow: urgent weekly emails to FBU.Manila@ssa.gov with proper formatting, congressional inquiry through my former district in Texas, MySocialSecurity account setup using VPN, fax backup to 632-301-2017, calls to main SSA line, and maybe even a respectful Facebook post if needed. It's absolutely ridiculous that American citizens need a comprehensive battle plan just to access benefits we've paid into for decades! But thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - this thread has become the definitive survival guide for Manila FBU hell. Will definitely update with results!

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I'm currently going through this exact same nightmare! Just turned 66 and have been battling the Manila FBU for about 5 weeks now with absolutely zero progress. The phone system is completely non-functional - I've called during their "office hours" probably 18 times and never once gotten through to an actual person. This thread is absolutely invaluable! I'm taking detailed notes on every single strategy shared here. The urgent email formatting from @Jamal Wilson, congressional inquiry approach from @Ayla Kumar, ACS contact method from @Mei Chen, VPN tip for MySocialSecurity from @Michael Green, the fax number from @Alexis Renard, main SSA customer service backup from @GalaxyGlider, and now the military connection angle from @Andre Dubois - this is like a masterclass in bureaucratic warfare! I'm particularly stressed because every month of delay feels like lost money, but hearing about the retroactive payments is keeping me sane. One thing I wanted to add: I discovered that some expat Facebook groups (like "Americans in the Philippines" and "US Expats Philippines") have members who've recently gone through this process and sometimes share even more current contact information or workarounds. Worth checking those communities too. Planning to launch the full assault next week: urgent emails with proper subject lines, congressional inquiry through my former rep in Florida, MySocialSecurity setup with VPN, fax backup, main SSA calls, and tapping into expat Facebook networks. It's absolutely insane that we need a PhD in government bureaucracy just to file for benefits we've earned over decades of work! But this community is incredible - we're literally creating the ultimate survival guide for this broken system. Thanks everyone for sharing your hard-won knowledge!

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Fighting Social Security denial for 18-year-old with dyslexia at non-traditional school - need appeal advice

I'm at my wits' end with SSA right now. My son (18) has been receiving auxiliary benefits on his father's SSDI record since his dad became disabled in 2021. Last month, we received a termination notice saying my son's benefits would stop because he "isn't enrolled in school" - which is completely untrue!My son attends a specialized learning center for students with dyslexia and other learning differences. It's a legitimate educational institution where he goes Monday-Friday from 8:30-3:00. He's receiving individualized instruction in all standard high school subjects and is set to graduate next May (2025). When I called SSA to explain this, the representative said they don't consider it a "qualified educational institution" because it doesn't follow a traditional curriculum structure. I've gathered documentation including:- The center's accreditation information- Teacher credentials and qualifications- His full course schedule and attendance records- Documentation about his IEP and learning accommodationsThe center doesn't participate in standardized state testing because they use alternative assessment methods better suited for students with learning differences.Has anyone successfully appealed a similar situation? What specific documentation helped your case? I only have 60 days to file this appeal and his monthly benefit of $1,350 is crucial for his specialized educational needs. Any advice on what arguments or evidence would be most effective?

That's fantastic news! So happy to hear your appeal was successful. Thanks for updating us - it's helpful for others who might face similar issues in the future.

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Congratulations on winning your appeal! This is such encouraging news for families dealing with similar situations. Your experience really highlights how important it is to gather comprehensive documentation and not give up after the initial denial. The fact that you got backpay too is huge - that makes such a difference for families who rely on these benefits. Thanks for taking the time to update everyone with the successful outcome and the specific steps that worked. This thread is going to be incredibly valuable for other parents navigating SSA's confusing policies around non-traditional schools.

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