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Can I get unemployment and SSI at the same time? Texas TWC question

Six weeks into my claim and I just got approved for SSI disability last month. Nobody told me these two things could overlap and now I'm panicking trying to figure out if I messed something up by not reporting it. I applied for unemployment back when my hours got cut to basically nothing at my warehouse job - my employer reduced everyone's shifts by like 60% and I finally filed after my income dropped below what I needed to cover rent. The SSI approval came through while my TWC claim was already in adjudication. I honestly didn't know I was supposed to report it and I haven't said anything to TWC yet. Do I need to call them? Will this trigger an overpayment? I'm already on a fixed income and the idea of owing money back is making me sick with worry. Has anyone dealt with both of these at the same time and figured out how the reporting works?

Week two of my own claim when I ran into something similar - I had to call TWC to ask about my pension and whether it affected my payments, and I actually got through using Claimyr (claimyr.com). The way it works is it holds the line for you and rings your phone once an agent picks up, so you're not sitting there for three hours redailing. I had asked specifically whether my SSDI counted against my weekly amount and the agent told me TWC sends a separate determination on each income type. There's a video showing how the whole thing works if you want to see it before trying: https://youtu.be/V-IMvH88P1U

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About two weeks behind you in my own claim and I've been trying to get through about an overpayment question. I'll try that for my own call, appreciate it.

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My situation is SSI not SSDI - are those handled the same way by TWC? I want to make sure I'm asking the right question when I call.

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SSI and SSDI are two completely different programs so probably worth confirming with an agent what applies to your specific case.

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My determination letter just came last week so this is fresh for me - TWC treats SSI and SSDI differently when it comes to deductions. SSDI is a different story but SSI doesn't get deducted from your unemployment payment. The rule is basically that SSI doesn't reduce what TWC pays you, but you still need to report it when TWC asks about other income on your payment requests. Not reporting something they ask about directly can create problems even if the income itself wouldn't have changed anything.

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So even if SSI doesn't actually reduce my payment, I could still get in trouble for not listing it on the payment request form?

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Every payment request asks about income from other sources. The safest move is always to report it and let TWC make the determination rather than leaving it blank and hoping nobody notices.

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Went through almost this exact paperwork situation last year and this is right. You report it, TWC looks at it, they send you a letter telling you what it means for your payments. That letter is what matters.

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My paperwork is all spread out in front of me right now trying to sort this out too - I want to push back a little on the idea that SSI never affects unemployment. You still have to meet the able and available requirement every week to keep getting unemployment. SSI disability approval can sometimes raise questions about whether you can actually do full-time work, which is what TWC requires. Those are two separate systems with different definitions of disability and they don't automatically cancel each other out, but it's worth being aware of.

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This is what I was worried about actually. My SSI is based on a partial disability - I can still work, just not at the physical level my old warehouse job required. Does TWC care about the specific type of SSI?

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The requirement TWC cares about is whether you're able and available for full-time work every week you request payment. What SSA classified your condition as matters less than whether you can actually show you're looking for and able to accept a full-time job.

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Month three of dealing with TWC appeals and I can confirm the able and available thing comes up constantly. If your disability limits you to part-time only, that's the actual issue to address.

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Approval notice sitting on my desk right now for a different benefit and honestly the TWC system is SO bad at communicating what you're supposed to report. The payment request screen asks about 'income from other sources' but it doesn't give you a list of exactly what counts. You just have to know. I've had three payment requests processed and never saw an option that clearly said 'government benefits' or 'disability income.' They really should make this clearer.

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Two months of payment requests done and yeah the form is vague. But TWC does ask every single request period, so if you got SSI during a week you were also getting unemployment, it needs to go on that request for that week.

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Even if TWC ultimately decides it doesn't affect your payment amount, you're still supposed to report it. The form says income from other sources and SSI is income from another source.

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Just finished my fifth payment request and I reported a small freelance payment and TWC just sent me a letter and adjusted that one week. No big drama. Report it and move on.

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Step one for me was realizing I didn't understand what 'other income' even meant on the TWC form. I thought it was just wages. But workers comp, pensions, and certain other payments all go on there depending on what they are. SSI I honestly don't know the exact answer to but calling TWC directly is the right move here. Don't just leave it unreported and hope for the best - that's how overpayments happen.

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I keep going back and forth on whether to call or just report it on my next payment request and add a note. Is there even a way to add notes on the payment request in UBS?

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The UBS payment request doesn't have a notes field as far as I know. If you need to explain something, the call is really the only way to get a human to note it on your account.

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Eight weeks in and had to call about a reporting question too. Calling is the only way to get something actually documented. The payment request form is just yes or no questions basically.

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Letter from TWC came last Tuesday about income verification and I had a similar panic moment. Quick clarification on something I saw upthread - SSI and SSDI are genuinely very different programs. SSI is needs-based and doesn't depend on your work history. SSDI is based on work credits. TWC's rules about deductions apply to SSDI from a base-period employer, not to SSI the same way. But able and available still applies to both situations, which is the more important question for unemployment.

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Okay so the deduction concern is less of an issue for me specifically since mine is SSI not SSDI. But the able and available piece is what I need to actually think through.

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Right, and 'able and available' means you have to be ready and looking for full-time work. If your SSI documentation says something that contradicts that, it could come up during adjudication or in a future review.

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My adjudication just cleared last week and the able and available review was part of what held it up. They asked me directly whether I could work full-time. It's a real question they look at.

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Determination letter I got three weeks ago was about exactly this kind of overlap and I want to share what happened. TWC sent me a separate determination specifically about my Social Security income. It didn't stop my payments but it did delay things about two weeks while they reviewed it. The determination letter said the specific type of Social Security income was not deductible. So yes, report it, yes, there might be a short delay, but it doesn't automatically mean you're disqualified or owe money back.

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This is genuinely reassuring. Did you have to do anything special to report it or did you just answer yes on the payment request?

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I called TWC first to explain the situation and then also marked it on my next payment request. Having it documented from the call helped when the review came up.

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Proactively calling before the next payment request is always the smarter move when you're unsure. It shows good faith and gets it on record.

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Halfway through my benefit year and watched someone in my household go through this same question. The piece that people miss is that TWC mails a separate determination for each issue. So even if one determination says you can receive benefits, another one specifically about an income source can still affect things. You won't get a consolidated answer, you'll get multiple letters. Watch your mail carefully.

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Multiple letters sounds stressful but I guess it makes sense. So even after my claim was approved I might get another letter specifically about the SSI?

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Yes, that's exactly how it works. Your eligibility determination and the determination about a specific income type are two separate pieces of mail, two separate decisions.

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And each one can be appealed separately within 14 days of the date it was mailed, if you disagree with the conclusion.

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Appeal hearing scheduled for next month on a different issue but I want to address the original poster's worry about owing money back. An overpayment only happens if you received money you weren't actually entitled to. If TWC reviews your SSI and decides it doesn't affect your payment amount, there's no overpayment. The concern isn't reporting SSI at all - it's what TWC decides after you report it. Calling them now to get ahead of it is smarter than waiting for a letter that might have an overpayment notice attached.

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That reframe actually helps. I need to stop assuming the worst outcome and just make the call.

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The 14-day appeal window is real and it starts from the date on the letter, not the date you receive it. So if you do get a determination you disagree with, don't sit on it.

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Day one of my appeal process and wish I had known the 14-day window runs from the mailing date, not when it arrives. Learned that the hard way.

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Payment request due this Sunday and I've been going back and forth on how to report a small Social Security payment myself so this thread is actually useful. My understanding, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, is that SSI doesn't come off your weekly unemployment check the way a pension from your old employer would. The deduction rule for pensions only applies if the pension is from one of your base period employers. SSI comes from the federal government, not a base period employer, so it falls into a different category entirely.

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That's right on the pension piece - a pension only gets deducted if it's from an employer in your base period. Social Security retirement income doesn't get deducted at all under TWC rules. SSI specifically, TWC sends you a determination on it.

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So I should report it and wait for the determination letter rather than trying to calculate whether it affects my payment myself.

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Calculating it yourself is exactly the wrong move. Report everything, let TWC send the determination, then you have something in writing to refer to or appeal.

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Third week of work searching while my adjudication sits unresolved and I want to bring up something adjacent - if your SSI approval was partly based on a condition that limits what kind of work you can do, make sure your work search activities on WorkInTexas.com reflect jobs you are actually able to do. TWC can pull your work search log at any time and if the jobs you applied for look inconsistent with any limitations you've described elsewhere, that could raise flags.

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I hadn't even thought about that angle. My SSI is for a back condition - I need to be applying for office or light work, not warehouse jobs I genuinely can't do anymore.

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Exactly. Keep your work search log and the types of jobs you're applying for consistent with what you're actually capable of. It protects you if TWC ever reviews.

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This is good practical advice. The work search log is a real thing TWC asks for and inconsistencies in it are the kind of thing that triggers further review.

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Just got my sixth payment request submitted and the work search requirement has been my biggest headache throughout this whole process. Quick question for whoever knows - my county requires three work search activities per week according to the letter TWC mailed me. Does applying for the same job twice count if the posting was updated, or does it have to be three completely separate employers?

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Three separate activities is the intent. The same job reposted probably doesn't count as a new activity. The requirement is to actively be reaching out to multiple employers each week.

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The letter TWC mailed you with your required number is what counts, not what anyone says online. But yes, three unique contacts per week is the standard expectation.

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Makes sense, I've been doing unique employers every week anyway just wasn't sure about that edge case. Thanks.

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Adjudication cleared four days ago after seven weeks and while I was waiting I made every payment request on schedule even though nothing was being paid. That part is crucial - you don't stop requesting payment just because something is in review. TWC only pays for weeks that were requested on time. If you skip a week because you assume there's no point, you lose that week.

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I've been doing this but it's nerve-wracking to keep requesting payment when the account just shows pending. Good to hear from someone whose adjudication actually cleared.

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Keep going. It cleared eventually and all my pending requests processed. The ones I'd already submitted were all in the system waiting.

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Missing a payment request during adjudication is one of the most common and painful mistakes. The Thursday through Saturday makeup window exists but most people don't know about it until it's too late.

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My weekly amount calculation took me three attempts to understand and I want to flag one thing for the original poster - your SSI amount might affect your financial picture in terms of whether you even want to pursue unemployment benefits to their fullest, depending on what TWC determines. Some people in similar situations find the TWC benefit amount is quite small because their base period wages were low due to reduced hours. It might be worth checking your award letter to understand what your weekly benefit amount actually is before stressing too much about the overlap.

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My weekly amount is $287 based on the determination letter. It's not huge but it matters when SSI alone doesn't cover everything.

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Then it's absolutely worth pursuing and reporting correctly. $287 a week adds up and you're entitled to it if you meet the requirements.

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Low weekly amounts are really common when the base period included months of reduced hours. The calculation uses your highest quarter, so if all four quarters were low, the weekly amount reflects that.

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Day 47 since I filed and I've got a question that's sort of adjacent to this thread - if someone's SSI was approved before they applied for unemployment, does that affect the initial eligibility review differently than if it was approved mid-claim like the original poster's situation? Asking for my own filing because I'm about to apply and I already have SSI.

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Whether SSI was approved before or during the claim doesn't change the fundamental questions TWC looks at: able and available for full-time work, actively searching, and reporting the income. Report it when you apply and let TWC issue its determination.

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Applying with SSI already in place is actually cleaner in some ways because you're disclosing everything upfront rather than having to report a change mid-claim.

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That makes sense. I'll disclose it on the application and not try to figure out in advance what TWC will do with it.

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My first payment finally hit the ReliaCard last week after the waiting week situation confused me for a month. Completely separate from the SSI discussion but someone upthread mentioned the able and available requirement and I want to add - being available means available for full-time work, not just part-time. If your SSI documentation says you can only work limited hours, that is a potential conflict with what TWC requires you to certify every payment request period.

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My doctor's paperwork for SSI says I can do sedentary or light work up to 40 hours per week. So I think I'm okay on the full-time availability piece, just limited on the type of work.

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Then you're in a much better position than I was worried about for you. Sedentary and light work up to 40 hours is full-time availability in TWC's eyes.

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That's an important distinction. The limitation on physical demands doesn't disqualify you from being able and available - you're still able and available for the category of work that fits your condition.

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Payment request scheduled for Sunday and I want to circle back to the original overpayment concern from the first post. TWC is required by law to recover any overpayment, even if it wasn't your fault. There's no waiver, no hardship exception, nothing. So the absolute best-case scenario is to report now, before any determination is issued against you, rather than after. If TWC determines there's no issue, great. If they find one, the fact that you proactively called will at least be on record.

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No hardship exception is a terrifying sentence to read. I'm calling this week without question now.

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The good news is that you caught this yourself and you're asking before TWC comes to you. That's the best position to be in. Call, explain, report on the next payment request, and wait for your determination letters.

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The recovery process if there is an overpayment can be done in installments - the billing statement that comes with the notice includes a payment schedule and TWC accepts any amount you send. It's not like they demand a lump sum immediately.

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Six payment requests in and finally got my adjudication cleared last week after using claimyr.com to reach a TWC agent about why my claim had been sitting. The agent pulled up my file and told me they were waiting on a form I hadn't received. Got it resolved in one call that would have taken me weeks of voicemail attempts otherwise. Good resource for anyone who needs to actually speak to a human about something complicated like income reporting.

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I keep seeing this come up in the thread. Going to try it this week to get ahead of the SSI reporting question before my next payment request is due.

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Used it myself for my own call last month when I needed to ask about my appeal timing. Got through quickly and the agent was actually helpful.

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My adjudication determination letter arrived yesterday after nine weeks and reading this whole thread - the original question about can you get both unemployment and SSI at the same time is basically yes, potentially, depending on the type and what TWC determines, but the able and available requirement is the real hurdle. The SSI deduction question is secondary to whether you can honestly certify every two weeks that you're able and available for full-time work and actively searching. If you can certify that truthfully, the income reporting piece is manageable.

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After reading everything here, my plan is to call TWC this week, disclose the SSI, keep requesting payment on schedule, keep my work search log current with appropriate jobs for my condition, and wait for whatever determination letters come. That feels like the right path.

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That's exactly the right approach. The system is frustrating and confusing but the steps are actually straightforward once you know them.

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Report, request on time, appeal within 14 days if you disagree with any determination. That's the whole playbook.

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And the work search log - keep it current. TWC can ask for it at any point and having it organized saves a lot of stress.

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