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i dont get why ur stressing so much. just go to the hearing and tell the truth. if you didn't do anything wrong you'll be fine. i've been through 3 of these hearings and won each time. the refs are actually pretty fair.
The issue isn't about telling the truth - I'm happy to do that. The problem is my severe anxiety about being in the same room with my former employer who was emotionally abusive. That's why I'm asking specifically about phone options.
I went through something very similar about 6 months ago - toxic boss, documented everything, won the first appeal, then she filed for reconsideration. The good news is that since you already won once with substantial evidence, you're in a strong position. Here's what worked for me: - Called the UC office immediately and requested a phone hearing due to "workplace harassment trauma" - they approved it same day - Organized all my emails chronologically and made a simple timeline - Practiced explaining the situation calmly in 2-3 minutes max - Had a friend listen to me rehearse so I wouldn't ramble during the hearing The reconsideration hearing was actually shorter than the original appeal because the referee already had the full case file. I just had to reaffirm my previous testimony and answer a few follow-up questions. Won again and my ex-boss finally gave up. You've got this! The documentation you mentioned is your strongest asset. Don't let her intimidate you into not participating - she's clearly hoping you'll just give up.
This is incredibly helpful and reassuring - thank you so much for sharing your experience! The fact that you went through almost the exact same situation and won twice gives me hope. I really like your idea about practicing with a friend beforehand. I tend to get flustered and ramble when I'm nervous, so rehearsing will definitely help me stay focused. Did you have to resubmit all your email evidence for the reconsideration hearing, or did they already have everything from the first appeal? And how long did the whole reconsideration process take from when she filed to when you got the final decision?
Yes, attending networking events specifically focused on employment opportunities does count as a work search activity in PA. The senior job networking group would qualify. Regarding your severance agreement, you should have it ready during your initial application. There will be questions about severance during the application process, and you may need to provide the agreement either during the initial filing or shortly after. Remember that even though you're 68, you're still eligible for your full benefit entitlement. Your claim isn't affected by your age, only by your work history, earnings, and current part-time income.
As someone who just went through a similar situation at 62, I wanted to add a few practical tips that really helped me: 1) File online early in the morning (like 6-7 AM) - the system seems to work better then and you're less likely to get kicked out mid-application 2) Have your last employer's info ready including their UC account number if you can find it (sometimes on your final paystub) 3) When they ask about your reason for separation, be very clear it was a layoff/reduction in force, not resignation 4) For the work search requirement - I found that applying through company websites directly counted better than just using job boards like Indeed. They seem to prefer when you can provide specific company contact info The partial benefits calculation worked out better for me than I expected. Even though my part-time job was only bringing in about $300/week, I was still getting a decent partial UC payment that made a real difference. Good luck with your application! The process is confusing but once you get through the initial filing it gets more routine.
This is really helpful advice! I especially appreciate the tip about filing early in the morning - I had no idea the system worked better at certain times. Quick question: when you mention having the employer's UC account number, where exactly would I find that on my paystub? I'm looking at my final one now but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Also, did you have any issues with them questioning your layoff vs resignation? I'm a bit worried since I technically had the option to take a lower-paying position but chose the severance instead.
I went through almost exactly what you're describing about 6 months ago! Got fired for "performance issues" after 2+ years with absolutely no formal warnings or write-ups - just one casual conversation with my manager about being "behind on some tasks" but nothing was ever documented or presented as a formal warning. I was honestly terrified to file because I kept reading mixed stories online, but I'm so glad I did - got approved within about 3 weeks! The key thing that worked in my favor was exactly what you have going for you: zero documentation from the employer's side. During my fact-finding interview, the UC rep asked my employer very specific questions about their progressive discipline policy and what formal steps they took before termination. When they couldn't provide dates, documentation, or evidence of any formal warnings or improvement plans, the decision went in my favor pretty quickly. PA really does expect employers to follow proper procedures before firing someone for performance - one vague meeting about projects being behind doesn't come close to meeting that standard. The burden is on THEM to prove willful misconduct, not on you to prove your innocence. My advice: File immediately and be completely factual in your application. State clearly that you were terminated for alleged poor performance but received no written warnings or formal disciplinary action. Don't let fear of potential denial stop you from starting the process - based on what you've described, you have a really strong case. Good luck!
This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been going back and forth about whether to file, but hearing from so many people who had almost identical situations and got approved is giving me the confidence to move forward. Your point about the burden being on them to prove willful misconduct really puts things in perspective - I keep trying to "defend" myself when really they need to show they followed proper procedures, which they clearly didn't. I'm going to file tomorrow morning and stop second-guessing myself. Thanks for sharing your experience and timeline - 3 weeks sounds very reasonable for getting this resolved!
I'm going through something very similar right now! Got terminated last month for "failure to meet expectations" after 4 years with zero formal documentation. Just like everyone else here, I had one vague conversation with my supervisor about some project delays, but nothing was ever put in writing or presented as a warning. Reading through all these success stories is giving me so much hope! I was really hesitant to file because I kept worrying that maybe I wasn't "good enough" at my job, but seeing how PA UC actually looks at whether employers followed proper procedures is eye-opening. It sounds like the lack of formal warnings and documentation is actually the most important factor. I'm planning to file my claim this week and I'm feeling much more confident after reading everyone's experiences. It's amazing how many employers seem to think they can just fire people for "performance" without following any kind of progressive discipline process. Thank you to everyone who shared their stories - this thread has been incredibly helpful for someone just starting this process!
Also remember you'll need to complete your work search activities every week once you start filing weekly claims. PA requires you to apply to at least 2 jobs and do 1 other work search activity (like updating your resume or attending a workshop) each week. Document everything carefully!
Good luck with your claim! Just wanted to add that if you run into any delays or issues with the interstate wage combination, don't be afraid to escalate. You can contact your local PA CareerLink office for help navigating the process - they often have staff who specialize in interstate claims and can provide guidance that the general UC hotline can't. Also, keep copies of EVERYTHING - your Florida W-2s, pay stubs from both jobs, and any correspondence from either state's unemployment office. Having all your documentation organized will speed things up if they need additional verification. The fact that you were laid off (not fired for cause) and have wages from both states puts you in a good position for approval, it's just a matter of getting through the bureaucracy!
Manny Lark
This has become such an amazing resource thread! As someone who works in HR and helps employees navigate UC issues regularly, I can confirm that everything shared here is accurate. The confusion around CareerLink registration vs. work search exemptions is probably the #1 issue I see with temporary layoffs. One thing I always tell employees is to keep your employer in the loop throughout this process too. When you get that recall letter, let your HR department know you've uploaded it to UC and ask them to keep a copy on file as well. Sometimes UC will contact employers directly to verify recall information, and having everything documented on both ends prevents delays. Also, for anyone reading this later - if your employer is doing mass temporary layoffs, ask if they're filing a WARN notice or working directly with UC on behalf of all affected employees. Sometimes larger employers will coordinate with UC to streamline the exemption process, which can save everyone a lot of individual paperwork headaches. This thread should honestly be linked from the PA UC website - you all created better guidance than what's officially available!
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Malik Davis
•This is such valuable insight from an HR perspective! I hadn't thought about the employer side of this process - keeping HR in the loop and making sure they have copies of everything makes total sense, especially since UC might contact them directly for verification. The point about WARN notices and mass layoff coordination is really interesting too. My company did a temporary layoff of about 50 people, so I wonder if they coordinated anything with UC on our behalf. I should probably check with HR about that. It would explain why some of my coworkers seemed less confused about the whole process than I was initially! Thanks for sharing the professional perspective - it really helps to understand how this looks from the employer side and what we can do to make the process smoother for everyone involved.
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Leo Simmons
Wow, this thread has been incredibly thorough and helpful! As someone who just went through a similar recall situation a couple weeks ago, I can vouch for everything that's been shared here. The distinction between CareerLink registration (required for everyone) vs. work search activities (exempted with valid recall date) really is the key point that PA UC fails to explain clearly. One small thing I'd add based on my recent experience: when you upload that recall letter to your dashboard, you might want to also keep the original email or communication from your employer showing when they first notified you about the recall timeline. I had an issue where UC questioned the authenticity of my recall letter, and having the original email chain with timestamps helped verify that this was a legitimate temporary layoff situation rather than something I arranged just to avoid work search requirements. Also, don't be discouraged if you have to call UC multiple times - different representatives sometimes give different information (as frustrating as that is). The written documentation you upload to your dashboard is ultimately what matters most for your case. You really handled this the right way by being proactive and getting everything documented properly. September will be here before you know it!
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Natalia Stone
•That's such a smart tip about keeping the original email chain from your employer! I never would have thought about UC questioning the authenticity of the recall letter, but it makes sense that they'd want to verify it's a legitimate temporary layoff situation. I actually do have the original email from HR about the temporary layoff, so I'll definitely keep that saved along with all the other documentation. It's frustrating that different UC reps give conflicting information - I noticed that when I called, but at least having everything properly documented in the dashboard seems to be the most reliable approach. Thanks for sharing your recent experience and for the encouragement! This whole thread has honestly been a lifesaver for understanding a system that should be much clearer than it is.
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