Can you get ny unemployment if fired for refusing covid vaccine?
I got terminated from my hospital job back in November cause I refused to get the covid vaccination. It was against my religious and personal beliefs, but they didnt care. Tried applying for unemployment benefits in December and just got denied last week. The letter says I was fired for 'misconduct' because I didn't follow company policy. Anyone else deal with this? Can I appeal this decision? I worked at that hospital for almost 5 years with perfect attendance and now I'm struggling to pay rent. Any advice on what to do next with ny unemployment?
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Emma Davis
Yeah, unfortunately NY unemployment considers not following employer mandates as misconduct. Even for vaccines. I went through something similar at my nursing home job. You can try to appeal, but I haven't heard of anyone winning those appeals for vaccine refusal cases. If your religious exemption was denied by your employer before termination, that makes it even harder to win an appeal.
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Javier Torres
Thats so frustrating. My religious exemption was denied without even reviewing it properly. They just sent a form letter rejection to everyone.
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CosmicCaptain
Same exact thing happened to me. They basically threw out all religious exemptions without even reading them. Total bs.
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Malik Johnson
did u try fighting it with a lawyer? I heard some ppl were doing class action suits
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Isabella Ferreira
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Freya Thomsen
wait, so they just call for u? how does that help with the actual appeal process tho?
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Isabella Ferreira
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Omar Zaki
Typical NY unemployment... create a system so broken that people have to pay extra just to use it 🤡
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AstroAce
I gotta be honest. You're probably out of luck. NY state has been pretty consistent that refusing the vaccine without an approved exemption counts as misconduct. Appeals for this specific reason have a really low success rate from what I've seen in these forums.
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Chloe Martin
I'm a paralegal who works with employment cases. You can definitely appeal, but vaccine mandate terminations are generally being upheld as valid. Your best shot is if you can prove your religious exemption was improperly handled or if the company policy wasn't clearly communicated. The appeal form should have instructions on how to submit your case. You'll need documentation of your exemption request and any communication about the mandate.
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Javier Torres
Thank you! This is really helpful. I do have emails showing they didn't follow their own religious exemption review process. Do you think that could help?
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Chloe Martin
Yes, that could potentially help your case. If they had a stated process and didn't follow it, that's definitely worth including in your appeal. Document everything chronologically and be very specific.
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Diego Rojas
lol everyone here talking bout apeealing... have yall ever TRIED calling the ny unemployment appeal line? 😂 good f*cking luck getting someone on the phone. been trying for 3 weeks straight
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Anastasia Sokolov
bruhhh fr tho 💯 i legit called 78 times in one day. SEVENTY. EIGHT. TIMES.
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Sean O'Donnell
Try calling right when they open. I got through after only 47 minutes on hold that way.
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Diego Rojas
at this point id rather just find a new job than deal with there stupid system
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Zara Ahmed
Here's what worked for me with NY unemployment (I was in a similar situation but different industry): First, file your appeal immediately - you only have limited time. Be extremely detailed and focus on procedural issues with how your employer handled the situation, not why you didn't want the vaccine. Document everything. If your employer didn't follow their own exemption process, that's your strongest argument. Second, you need to actually talk to someone. The online system is basically useless for complicated cases. I wasted weeks trying the regular phone line before using claimyr.com - it's a service that waits on hold for you and connects you when an agent answers. Absolute game changer. The agent I talked to actually helped me understand exactly what documentation I needed for my appeal. Third, while waiting for your appeal, apply for jobs and document all your applications. If you win your appeal, they'll ask for proof you've been job searching. Good luck! The system is frustrating but persistence pays off.
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Javier Torres
Thank you so much for this detailed response. Gonna check out that service and file my appeal today
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StarStrider
Did you end up winning your appeal? Or still waiting?
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Zara Ahmed
Still waiting for the final decision, but I did get a much more positive response after talking to an agent and submitting additional documentation.
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Luca Esposito
Hate to say it but you're probably SOL. Courts have consistently upheld vaccine mandates. Your best bet is finding a new job that doesn't require it.
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Nia Thompson
Not trying to be rude but this is exactly why I got the shot even though I didn't want to. Knew this would happen with unemployment claims. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to keep your income.
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Mateo Rodriguez
Wow way to be judgmental. People have legitimate reasons for not wanting experimental vaccines. I respect OP for standing by their principles.
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Aisha Abdullah
Dude this isnt a vaccine debate forum, OP asked about unemployment benefits 🙄
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Nia Thompson
I'm not judging anyone's choice, just saying I made a practical decision based on knowing I wouldn't qualify for benefits if fired. It was a financial decision for me.
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Ethan Wilson
you should talk to a labor attorney. some of them do free consultations. this whole mandate thing is still being fought in courts.
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NeonNova
Yeaaa the DOL is saying vaccine refusal is misconduct in most cases. I had a hearing for my appeal and lost. They basically said employer has right to set requirements and we have right to find new job if we dont like it 😡
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Javier Torres
How long did the appeal process take? I'm worried about how long I'll be without income
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NeonNova
Took about 2 months from filing to hearing, then another 3 weeks for decision. It's slow af
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Yuki Tanaka
have u tried looking for work at places that don't require the vax? lots of small businesses don't care
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Carmen Diaz
This is exactly why we need to stand up against government overreach! They force these mandates then deny benefits when people stand by their beliefs. The system is rigged against us. 😡
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Andre Laurent
Sir this is a Wendy's
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Emily Jackson
LMAO 🤣🤣
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Liam Mendez
Actually these were employer mandates not government ones in most cases...
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Sophia Nguyen
I worked for NY unemployment last year (quit because it was a nightmare). Here's what you need to know: there's a specific appeals process for misconduct cases. You'll need to request a hearing where you can present your case. But I'll be honest - I processed hundreds of these cases and vaccine refusal appeals rarely succeeded unless there was some procedural error by the employer. One tip though - if you can prove you applied for a religious exemption and it was improperly handled, you have a better shot. Document everything and be persistent. Also, the phone system is completely overwhelmed. Try using claimyr.com - many claimants told me this was the only way they could actually reach an agent.
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Javier Torres
Thanks for the insider perspective! Really helpful to hear from someone who worked there
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Jacob Smithson
Depends on if you submitted a proper religious or medical exemption. If you did and they denied it without proper review, you might have a case. If you just refused without going through exemption process, you're probably out of luck.
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Isabella Brown
CALL AND APPEAL RIGHT AWAY!!! You only have 30 days from the determination notice! Don't wait!
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Maya Patel
My sister went through this exact thing with her teaching job. Appeal got denied too. She ended up finding work at a private school that didn't have the same requirements. Maybe look into smaller healthcare providers or private practices?
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Javier Torres
Yeah I've been applying to smaller clinics. The job market is tough right now though
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