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I actually had my NYS DOL unemployment hearing last month where my employer was a no-show, so I can share what actually happened. The hearing officer started right on time and explained that they would proceed without the employer. They put me under oath over the phone (you just verbally affirm that you'll tell the truth) and then spent about 45 minutes asking very detailed questions about my termination. Even though my employer wasn't there, the judge had their written contest statement and asked me to respond to each specific allegation they had made. They wanted exact dates, times, witnesses present, what was said, etc. I had to walk through company policies, any prior warnings, and my understanding of why I was fired. The judge was professional and neutral - not hostile, but definitely thorough. I got my decision in writing about 10 days later and won my case. My advice: prepare like they're going to show up, bring/have ready any supporting documents, and be completely honest about what happened. The no-show actually worked in my favor because they couldn't present new evidence or challenge my testimony directly.

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@d2bef0c1d010 This is incredibly helpful, thank you for sharing your experience! I'm especially glad to hear that the hearing officer was professional and neutral - I was worried they might be more skeptical with only one side present. Quick question about the documentation: did you submit your supporting documents to the hearing officer before the hearing, or did you reference them during the call and then email/fax them afterward? I have some emails and write-ups that I think will help my case, but I'm not sure about the best way to get them into the record during a phone hearing. Also, it's reassuring to know you got your decision in 10 days - the waiting has been the worst part of this whole process for me!

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@d2bef0c1d010 This is such valuable insight from someone who actually went through this! I'm curious about the oath part - when they had you verbally affirm over the phone, did they use specific legal language or was it more informal? I've never been sworn in for anything before and I want to make sure I respond appropriately. Also, when you mention they had your employer's written contest statement, did they summarize what your employer claimed during the hearing, or did they expect you to already know what allegations you were responding to? I'm trying to decide if I should call the DOL ahead of time to get a copy of what my employer submitted, or if the hearing officer will fill me in during the actual hearing. Really appreciate you sharing such detailed information - it's helping me feel much more prepared!

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I can add some perspective as someone who works in HR and has been involved in several unemployment hearings from the employer side. When we don't attend hearings, it's usually because we know our case is weak or we don't have sufficient documentation to prove misconduct. The administrative law judge will absolutely still conduct a thorough hearing with you - they're required to make a decision based on all available evidence, which includes whatever your employer submitted initially. Don't let your guard down though. Even without them present, you need to be prepared to address their allegations point by point with specific examples and dates. The judge may ask follow-up questions that challenge your version of events, not because they don't believe you, but because they need to ensure they have all the facts. Having been on both sides of this process, I'd say your chances improve significantly when the employer is a no-show, but preparation is still key to a successful outcome.

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This perspective from the HR side is really valuable! It's actually reassuring to hear that employers often skip hearings when they know their case is weak. I'm wondering - from your experience, what are the most common types of documentation or evidence that help claimants in these situations? I have some text messages with my supervisor and a copy of our employee handbook, but I'm not sure if there are other types of evidence I should be looking for or preparing. Also, when you mention being prepared to address allegations "point by point," does that mean I should create a written outline of my responses, or is it better to just be familiar with the facts and respond naturally during the hearing?

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@c03f0bc28571 This HR perspective is so helpful - thank you! Your point about employers skipping when they know their case is weak gives me some confidence. I'm actually the original poster and my hearing is next week. Based on your experience, should I be worried if I don't have a ton of documentation? I have some email exchanges with my manager and our employee handbook, but not much else. Also, you mentioned that judges may ask challenging follow-up questions even when the employer doesn't show - what kinds of questions should I be prepared for? I want to make sure I don't get caught off guard during the hearing.

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I'm so sorry you had to experience that kind of treatment, Harold. It's absolutely unacceptable for any unemployment agent to speak to you in such a demeaning way, especially when you're already in a vulnerable situation. Reading through all the helpful advice people have shared here, it sounds like you took exactly the right steps by filing that formal complaint with the Advocate Office. I wanted to add that if you're still feeling shaken up from this experience, don't feel like you have to rush into any follow-up calls about your claim right away. Take the time you need to recover from this emotionally. When you do need to call back for claim-related issues, you can always start the conversation by saying something like "I'd like to make sure we have a productive conversation today" - this sometimes helps set a more professional tone from the beginning. Also, keep in mind that the recording of your original call will be key evidence in your complaint. The fact that they have that recording means there's no question about what actually happened - it's not just your word against the agent's. You showed real strength by standing up for yourself and following through with reporting this behavior. Hopefully your case will help prevent other people from having to go through the same awful experience.

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Thank you so much, Ryder. You're absolutely right that I shouldn't rush into more calls until I'm feeling more emotionally ready. That's really good advice about setting the tone at the beginning of future calls too - I'll definitely try that approach. It's such a relief knowing that the call was recorded because you're right, there's no ambiguity about what happened. I was worried they might try to downplay it or say it was a misunderstanding, but the recording will speak for itself. This whole experience has really shown me the importance of advocating for myself, and honestly, the support from everyone here has been incredibly healing after such a traumatic interaction.

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I'm so sorry you went through this Harold, but I'm really proud of you for following through with filing that complaint! As someone who works in state government (different agency), I can tell you that recorded calls are taken very seriously when complaints are filed, especially when there are specific details like you provided. One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful for you or others - if you ever need to call back about your claim and you're feeling anxious about potentially getting another difficult agent, you can ask right at the beginning of the call to have the interaction documented as "sensitive" due to your previous negative experience. Most agencies have protocols for handling cases where someone has had prior issues with staff behavior. Also, don't feel bad about crying or getting emotional during that call. That agent was completely out of line, and your reaction was totally normal for someone being treated so poorly. The fact that you've turned this awful experience into action by filing a complaint shows real resilience. I hope you get a good resolution from your complaint, and please don't let one terrible agent discourage you from pursuing the benefits you're entitled to. Most public employees really do want to help, even if this one didn't represent that at all.

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Thank you so much for sharing your perspective as someone who works in state government - it's really reassuring to hear that recorded calls and complaints are taken seriously. I had no idea I could ask for an interaction to be documented as "sensitive" due to my previous experience. That's incredibly helpful information that I'll definitely use if I need to call back. You're also very kind about not making me feel bad for crying - I was honestly embarrassed about that, but you're right that it was a normal reaction to being treated so poorly. It means a lot to hear from someone on the inside that most public employees do want to help. This whole experience has been a real learning process about advocating for myself and knowing my rights, and I'm grateful for all the support and practical advice everyone has shared.

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Your supervisor was definitely wrong - Amazon pays unemployment taxes to NYS Department of Labor just like every other employer in New York. I went through this exact situation 8 months ago when I got terminated from the Amazon facility in Albany. Filed my claim online and received my first payment about 3 weeks later. The key is to apply immediately since there's a waiting week, and make sure you select "discharged/terminated" as your separation reason rather than "quit." Keep all your pay stubs and any termination paperwork handy in case NYS DOL needs documentation during their review process. Don't let them discourage you from claiming benefits you've rightfully earned through your work!

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Thanks for sharing your Albany experience! It's really reassuring to hear from multiple people who actually got their benefits after Amazon. I was starting to panic that maybe there was some special exemption for warehouse workers or something. Going to file my claim right now and keep my fingers crossed it goes as smoothly as yours did.

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Amazon absolutely pays unemployment taxes to NYS Department of Labor - there's no way around it for any employer in New York. I think your supervisor was either misinformed or trying to discourage you from filing. I worked at an Amazon warehouse upstate for about a year before getting let go, and I received my unemployment benefits without any major issues. The process took about 2-3 weeks for my first payment after filing online at my.ny.gov. Just make sure you file as soon as possible since there's a waiting period, and have all your employment documentation ready including start/end dates and reason for termination. Even if they try to contest it during adjudication, you have the right to appeal. Don't let them intimidate you out of benefits you've earned!

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This thread has been so helpful - it's clear that Amazon supervisors sometimes try to discourage people from filing when they have every right to benefits. I'm new to this whole unemployment process but seeing so many people successfully get their benefits after Amazon terminations gives me confidence. @dd84d3bd2424 definitely don't let them scare you out of what you've earned! It sounds like as long as you weren't fired for serious misconduct, you should be fine. Good luck with your claim!

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You should report your "active hours" when certifying for UI benefits while working for Uber or DoorDash. Active hours are the time you're actually performing paid work (actively delivering food or transporting passengers), not just the time you have the app open waiting for orders/rides. The distinction is important because NYSDOL wants to know how many hours you're actually working and earning money. If you reported all dash/online hours (including time just waiting), you'd be overstating your work hours, which could unnecessarily reduce your benefits. When certifying, calculate and report: - Hours actively completing deliveries/rides - All earnings from these gigs (before expenses) Keep detailed records of your active work time and earnings each day. The NYSDOL may request documentation if there are questions about your certifications. The Uber/DoorDash apps typically provide reports showing your active time versus total online time, which can help you accurately report your hours.

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Just to add to Aisha's excellent response - make sure you're also keeping track of your mileage and any business expenses related to your gig work. While you report your gross earnings to NYSDOL, you can deduct legitimate business expenses on your taxes later. Also, if you're working multiple gig apps simultaneously (like having both Uber and DoorDash running), be careful not to double-count overlapping active hours. Only count the time you're actually completing deliveries or rides, not the time you have multiple apps open waiting for requests. The key is being consistent and accurate with your reporting. NYSDOL audits are random but thorough, so having good records from day one will save you headaches later if you're selected for review.

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This is really helpful advice about tracking expenses and avoiding double-counting hours! I'm new to gig work while on unemployment and hadn't thought about the complexity of running multiple apps. Quick question - when you mention keeping mileage records, should I track all miles driven while the apps are on, or only the miles during active deliveries? Also, is there a recommended app or method for tracking this efficiently? I want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly from the start.

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I'm in a similar situation - been collecting for about 16 weeks now and getting anxious about the time limit. What I found helpful was logging into my NY.gov account and looking at the "Payment History" section. It actually shows you how many weeks you've claimed so far, which helps you do the math on how many you have left. Also, I started keeping a spreadsheet tracking my weekly claims just so I have a clear picture of where I stand. The job market is definitely tough right now, but at least knowing exactly where you are in the 26-week timeline helps with planning. Has anyone had luck with temp agencies or contract work to bridge the gap while still looking for permanent positions?

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That's a great tip about checking the Payment History section! I didn't know it showed the week count like that. I've been trying to figure out exactly where I stand too since the main claim page is kind of vague. Temp work is interesting - do you know if you can still collect partial benefits while doing temp jobs? I've been hesitant to take anything short-term because I wasn't sure how it would affect my claim status.

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Yes, you can work part-time or do temp work while collecting unemployment in NY and still receive partial benefits! The key is reporting all your earnings when you file your weekly claim. NYS uses a formula where they subtract a portion of your earnings from your weekly benefit amount. As long as you earn less than your weekly benefit rate plus $50, you'll still get some unemployment benefits. Just make sure to report every penny you earn - even one day of temp work - or you could face penalties. I did some freelance work during my claim period and it actually helped stretch my benefits longer since I was getting partial payments instead of using up full weeks. The important thing is to keep looking for permanent full-time work and document those job search activities too.

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea you could work part-time and still get partial benefits. I've been avoiding any temporary opportunities because I thought it would mess up my claim completely. The formula you mentioned about earning less than your weekly benefit rate plus $50 - is that something that's clearly explained on the NY.gov website? I feel like I've been missing out on potential income while still collecting some benefits. Also, when you say "document job search activities" - do you mean the temp work counts toward your required job contacts, or do you still need to apply to 3 permanent positions per week on top of any temp work you're doing?

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