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I'm new here and this thread has been absolutely eye-opening! I just started collecting NY unemployment about 2 weeks ago after getting laid off from my customer service job, and honestly I had no idea audits were even a thing. I've been doing my job searches legitimately - applying through Indeed, company websites, reaching out to former coworkers - but I haven't been keeping any records at all. Just figured as long as I was actually applying to jobs, I was good to go. Reading about @Aisha Mohammed's 6-hour documentation nightmare and people owing back $7-8k is honestly terrifying. I'm definitely one of those people who would be completely screwed if I got audited right now because I have zero proof of anything I've applied to. Starting TODAY I'm going to create a tracking system - going to use a Google Sheet like others suggested with columns for date, company, position, method, and confirmation. Also going to start screenshotting everything and organizing by week. Better late than never, right? Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences - this is exactly the kind of info they should tell you when you first apply but somehow never mention. You've probably saved me from a potential disaster down the road!

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Welcome to the community @Sofia Peña! You're definitely not alone in being caught off guard by this - I think most of us assumed the weekly certifications were pretty much automatic too. The good news is you're only 2 weeks in, so you haven't lost too much time to catch up on documentation. I'd suggest trying to reconstruct what you can remember from those first 2 weeks - check your browser history, email confirmations, maybe LinkedIn if you applied through there. Even if you can't find everything, having some record is better than none. And definitely start fresh with that Google Sheet system going forward. The peace of mind is totally worth the extra few minutes per application. You caught this early enough that you should be fine!

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Been on unemployment for about 3 months now and this thread is exactly what I needed to see! I've been legitimately doing my job searches - applying to probably 5-6 positions per week through Indeed, company websites, and some networking with former colleagues from my previous office job. But honestly, my documentation has been pretty hit or miss. Sometimes I save confirmation emails, sometimes I don't. Sometimes I screenshot applications, other times I forget. Reading about @Aisha Mohammed's 6-hour audit scramble and @Camila Castillo getting checked on 8 random weeks is seriously making me rethink my casual approach. The idea of owing back thousands in benefits when I'm already struggling financially is absolutely terrifying. I'm definitely going to start a proper tracking system this week - thinking a Google Sheet with columns for date, company, position, application method, and confirmation status, plus organizing all screenshots in weekly folders like others have suggested. Better to spend the extra time now than potentially get blindsided by an audit later. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences - this kind of practical info is gold and way more helpful than anything on the official DOL website!

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I'm at about 2 weeks into my unemployment claim and honestly this thread is a goldmine of information! I had no idea the work search audits were this thorough or that they could happen as early as 2-3 months in. I've been doing job applications but barely keeping track beyond just remembering where I applied. After reading everyone's experiences, I'm definitely going to set up a proper spreadsheet system this weekend with all the details you've mentioned - dates, companies, positions, activity types, contact methods, etc. It's actually kind of motivating to see that if you keep good records and do genuine job search activities, the audit process seems manageable rather than scary. I appreciate everyone being so detailed about their experiences - this is way more helpful than the vague official guidance on the DOL website. Better to start strong with documentation from the beginning than scramble later!

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You're so smart to get organized early in the process! I wish I had found this thread when I was at 2 weeks instead of scrambling to improve my documentation at 6 weeks. Starting with a proper system from the beginning will save you so much stress later. One thing I'd add to your spreadsheet plan - consider including a "notes" column where you can add details like who you spoke with, what was discussed, or any follow-up actions. It really helps show the depth of your job search efforts if you do get audited. Also, don't forget to save any email confirmations from applications or networking contacts - having that backup documentation alongside your spreadsheet makes everything even more solid. You're going to be in great shape if you stay consistent with tracking from week 2 onward!

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I'm about 7 weeks into my unemployment claim and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I started off pretty casual with my job search documentation - just keeping a simple list in a notebook - but reading everyone's detailed experiences has made me realize I need to completely overhaul my system. The fact that audits can happen as early as 8-16 weeks means I'm potentially entering the higher-risk zone soon. I'm going to spend this weekend creating a comprehensive spreadsheet with all the columns you've mentioned: date, company, position, activity type, contact method, and notes. It's actually reassuring to see that people who keep good records and show genuine job search effort seem to handle the audit process just fine. I've been doing mostly online applications but clearly need to diversify with networking calls, job fairs, and professional development activities. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that the official DOL information doesn't provide. Better to get organized now than panic if I get selected for an audit!

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You're absolutely right about being in that higher-risk window soon! I'm at 9 weeks now and just went through the same realization a few weeks ago. The weekend spreadsheet overhaul is definitely the way to go - I did the same thing and it made such a difference in how organized and confident I feel about my documentation. One tip for when you're setting up your new system: try to backtrack through your email and browser history to fill in any gaps from the past 7 weeks if you can. Even if your notes from those early weeks aren't as detailed, having something documented is better than blank weeks. Also, since you're diversifying your activities, I found that setting weekly goals (like "1 networking call, 2 applications, 1 professional development activity") really helped me stay consistent and meet the variety they're looking for. You're definitely taking the right approach by getting ahead of this rather than waiting!

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I went through this exact same situation when I got laid off from a warehouse job in Buffalo last year. The whole employer-pays thing confused me too at first, but here's what I learned: New York employers pay quarterly unemployment insurance taxes based on their payroll and claim history. The money goes into a state trust fund, and that's where your benefits come from - not directly from your employer's bank account. Your former employer might get a notice about your claim, but if it was a legitimate layoff due to business reasons, they usually won't contest it. The key is to file as soon as possible since there's a waiting period, and you can't get benefits for weeks you don't claim. Good luck with your application!

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@Cameron Black Thanks for sharing your experience from Buffalo! It s'really helpful to hear from someone who went through the same thing. The quarterly tax system you mentioned makes a lot of sense - it sounds like it s'all handled at the state level which probably makes the whole process more standardized. I m'definitely going to file ASAP since you mentioned the waiting period. Did you have any issues with the application process itself, or was it pretty straightforward once you understood how the funding works?

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@Cameron Black The application process was actually pretty straightforward once I got started! The NY.gov unemployment portal walks you through everything step by step. Just make sure you have your Social Security number, driver s'license, and employment details ready like (your employer s'name, address, dates of employment, and reason for separation .)The trickiest part for me was remembering exact dates and wages from previous jobs since they ask for 18 months of work history. I d'recommend gathering all that info before you start the application so you don t'have to stop halfway through to look things up.

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As someone who works in HR at a manufacturing company here in NY, I can confirm what others have said - unemployment insurance is entirely employer-funded through payroll taxes. We pay both state (SUI) and federal (FUTA) unemployment taxes quarterly based on our total payroll. The rate varies by company based on their "experience rating" - basically how many former employees have filed claims over the past few years. A single legitimate layoff claim won't hurt your former employer much, especially if they don't have a history of frequent layoffs. Most employers understand that economic layoffs are just part of business and won't contest valid claims. Don't feel guilty about filing - this is exactly what the system is designed for!

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I'm new to this community but this thread has been so informative! My aunt is in the exact same situation - she's worked part-time in school food service for about 3 years and just got told about summer layoff. After reading everyone's experiences, I'm definitely going to tell her to file immediately when her last day ends. The consensus seems clear: verbal promises don't equal reasonable assurance, and the worst they can do is deny the claim. What really stands out to me is how different each district handles this - some automatically send reasonable assurance letters while others leave workers in limbo until late summer. My aunt's district sounds similar to others mentioned here where they don't finalize staffing until July/August, which should work in her favor. I'm bookmarking this thread to share with her because the practical advice about documentation, timing, and weekly certifications is exactly what she needs to know. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - it makes such a difference to hear from people who've actually been through this process with NYS Department of Labor!

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Welcome to the community! I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for your aunt's situation. It's really reassuring to see how many people are in similar circumstances and willing to share their experiences. The point about different districts handling this so differently is something I hadn't fully appreciated until reading all these responses. It sounds like your aunt is in a good position to file since her district doesn't finalize staffing until later in the summer - that lack of concrete information about her fall position should definitely work in her favor when it comes to the reasonable assurance requirement. I hope she has success with her claim! It's great that you're helping her navigate this process, and having all this practical advice from people who've actually been through it makes such a difference compared to just reading the official guidelines.

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I'm also new here but this thread has been incredibly valuable! My neighbor works in our school district's kitchen and has been stressed about the summer layoff situation. After reading all these detailed experiences, I'm going to share this information with her right away. What really strikes me is how consistent the advice is across different people's experiences - file immediately, document everything, and don't assume verbal promises count as reasonable assurance. The timing issue that several people mentioned about districts not finalizing fall staffing until late summer is such an important point that I hadn't considered. It seems like NYS Department of Labor really does evaluate each case individually rather than having a blanket policy against school employees. I'm also impressed by how helpful everyone has been in sharing specific details about the weekly certification process, job search requirements, and what to expect if they ask for additional documentation. This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes all the difference when you're trying to navigate these systems for the first time.

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I'm also a freelancer dealing with this exact situation! Reading through everyone's responses, it sounds like the consensus is to submit multiple types of documentation together rather than relying on PayPal statements alone. I've been putting together a package with my PayPal business transaction reports, last year's Schedule C, the few 1099s I do have, and some client invoices. One thing I'm wondering - has anyone had success submitting a brief cover letter explaining their documentation? I'm thinking of writing something short that explains why I use PayPal for most payments and how the documents all connect to show my self-employment income. Thanks for all the helpful advice in this thread!

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A cover letter is definitely a good idea! I included one when I submitted my documentation and I think it really helped. Keep it brief but explain your situation - that you're a freelancer who primarily receives payments through PayPal, and then list what documents you're including and how they support each other. Something like "Enclosed you'll find my PayPal business transaction reports showing client payments, my 2024 Schedule C demonstrating reported income, available 1099 forms, and sample client invoices." It shows you're organized and makes their job easier. The key is helping them quickly understand your self-employment situation rather than making them piece it together from random documents.

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I went through this exact process last year as a freelance photographer! PayPal statements definitely work, but like others mentioned, you need to be strategic about how you present them. What really helped me was organizing everything chronologically and creating a simple Excel sheet that showed: Client Name | Service Date | PayPal Transaction ID | Amount | Tax Year Reported. I also highlighted all the business transactions in my PayPal CSV download and removed personal stuff completely. NYSDOL processed my claim pretty quickly once they had clean, organized documentation. Pro tip: if you have repeat clients, include a note showing the ongoing business relationship - it helps establish you as a legitimate freelancer rather than someone doing occasional odd jobs. The combination of PayPal records + Schedule C + any invoices you have should definitely be sufficient!

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This is such a comprehensive approach, Yara! I love the idea of creating that Excel summary with all the key details - Client Name, Service Date, Transaction ID, Amount, and Tax Year Reported. That sounds like it would make it super easy for NYSDOL to verify everything quickly. I'm definitely going to set up a spreadsheet like that before submitting my documentation. The tip about highlighting repeat clients to show ongoing business relationships is brilliant too - I have several clients I've worked with regularly over the past year, so that should help establish my freelance legitimacy. Thanks for sharing such detailed advice from your successful experience!

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Yara, this is incredibly helpful! I'm actually in the exact same situation as Emma - freelance graphic designer with mostly PayPal payments. Your Excel spreadsheet idea with the Transaction ID column is genius - I never thought about including that level of detail but it probably makes verification so much easier for them. Question: when you say you "removed personal stuff completely" from the PayPal CSV, did you literally delete those rows or just create a separate clean file with only business transactions? I'm worried about accidentally removing something important or making it look like I'm hiding transactions. Also, roughly how many months of PayPal history did you submit? Thanks for sharing your success story - it's giving me confidence that this process can actually work smoothly with proper organization!

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