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I went through this exact situation last year after leaving a toxic workplace. Yes, your employer gets notified automatically - there's no way around it. The notice they receive includes basic info like your claim date and employment period, but not detailed reasons why you're claiming benefits. However, if they contest it (which they might if you quit), then the specifics come out during the hearing process. I'd recommend documenting everything you can about the hostile work environment before filing - save emails, texts, write down incidents with dates, get witness contact info if possible. The good news is that if you truly have good cause, NYS does recognize hostile work environment as valid grounds for quitting. Just be prepared for a potentially lengthy appeals process if your employer fights it.

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Thank you for sharing your experience Carmen - this is really helpful to know what to expect. How long did your appeals process take overall? And did you end up having to do a phone hearing or was it handled through written documentation? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the stress of going through all this or if I should just look for another job first.

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@Norah Quay My appeals process took about 2.5 months total. I had to do a phone hearing where both me and my former employer presented our cases to an administrative law judge. It was nerve-wracking but I m'glad I went through with it - I had documented several incidents of harassment and verbal abuse, plus a witness who was willing to testify. The judge ruled in my favor. My advice would be to start looking for work while you file the claim - you have to be actively job searching anyway to maintain eligibility. Don t'let a toxic employer intimidate you out of benefits you re'entitled to, especially if you have good documentation of the hostile environment.

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Just wanted to add that if you're worried about your employer finding out, you should know that they'll receive the notification regardless of whether you were fired or quit. However, the initial notice doesn't include your personal reasons for filing - it's mainly for wage verification. The detailed circumstances only come up if they decide to contest your claim. I'd suggest filing sooner rather than later since there are time limits, and you can always appeal if they contest it. Also, keep in mind that even if the relationship ended badly, many employers don't bother contesting claims unless there was serious misconduct involved, since it takes time and resources on their end too.

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That's a good point about many employers not bothering to contest unless there's serious misconduct. I'm dealing with a similar situation where I'm worried about filing because my former manager was vindictive, but you're right that it might not be worth their time to fight it. The time limits are definitely something to keep in mind too - I think you only have a certain window to file after your last day of work. Does anyone know exactly how long you have to file your initial claim in NY?

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I just went through this same exact situation a few months ago and I feel your pain! The confusion is totally understandable because the NY unemployment system does a terrible job explaining the difference between when your benefits run out versus when your benefit year ends. You're stuck until September unfortunately - you can't file a new claim until that full 12-month benefit year is over AND you need to have earned enough wages from new work during that time to qualify again. In the meantime, definitely apply for SNAP benefits immediately - the application was way easier than I expected and it helped SO much with groceries. Also check with 211 (dial 2-1-1) for local emergency assistance programs in your area. Some churches and community organizations have rent assistance funds too. I know it's scary when savings are running low, but there are resources out there to help bridge this gap. Don't give up on the job search either - I applied to probably 300+ positions before finally landing something. You've got this!

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Thank you so much for this encouraging response! It really helps to hear from people who've been through the exact same situation. I'm definitely going to call 211 today - I had no idea about that resource. The SNAP application is at the top of my list too. It's wild that I need to apply to 300+ jobs but honestly that gives me perspective that I'm not alone in this struggle. The savings situation is definitely stressful but knowing there are assistance programs available makes me feel less panicked. Really appreciate you taking the time to share what worked for you during this gap period!

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I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago and it's incredibly frustrating! You're absolutely correct that you cannot file a new claim until your benefit year ends in September. The 26 weeks of benefits can be exhausted before your 12-month benefit year is over, which creates this awful gap period where you're left with no income. During my gap period, I applied for SNAP benefits (which was honestly a lifesaver), reached out to local food banks, and picked up some freelance bookkeeping work through Upwork and local small businesses. Since you're in accounting, you might want to check out temp agencies that specialize in finance/accounting - they often have short-term assignments that can help bridge the gap. Also look into the 599 training program that others mentioned if you're interested in learning new skills. I know it feels hopeless right now, but you'll get through this. Keep applying for jobs and don't be afraid to take something temporary while you search for your ideal position. The job market is tough but persistence really does pay off eventually!

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This is really solid advice! I'm definitely going to check out Upwork for freelance bookkeeping opportunities - that's a great idea I hadn't considered. Having some income coming in while waiting for the benefit year to end would take so much pressure off. The temp agency suggestion is smart too, especially ones that specialize in accounting. Do you remember which temp agencies worked best for you? Also curious if the freelance work affected your ability to file a new claim later when your benefit year ended? I want to make sure I don't accidentally mess up my eligibility by working during this gap period.

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I've been documenting my job searches in a simple Word document and it's worked fine during my claim reviews. Just include: date, company name, position title, how you applied (website, email, in-person), and contact info if available. Don't overthink it - NYS Department of Labor just wants to see you're making genuine efforts. Also, attending virtual job fairs and career webinars count toward your 3 weekly activities, which helped me when physical applications were slim. The key is consistency in your record-keeping format.

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This is really helpful! I've been overthinking the documentation format. Quick question - for virtual job fairs, do I need to document specific employers I spoke with at the event, or is just attending the fair itself enough to count as one of the 3 weekly activities?

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@Zoe Gonzalez Just attending the virtual job fair counts as one activity, but I d'recommend documenting a few key employers you interacted with if possible - it shows more engagement. Even if you just visited their booths or downloaded materials, note that down. It strengthens your record without being too burdensome.

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Just want to add that if you're using LinkedIn for job searching, make sure to document those applications too! I've been applying through LinkedIn Easy Apply and it definitely counts toward the 3 weekly requirements. I include the LinkedIn job posting URL in my log along with the standard info (company, position, date). Also, don't forget that updating your resume or LinkedIn profile can count as a job search activity - I learned this from a NYS Department of Labor rep. It's helpful when you're having a slow week with actual applications but still need to meet the requirement.

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That's really good to know about LinkedIn Easy Apply counting! I've been using that a lot but wasn't sure if it was "official" enough. Do you know if connecting with recruiters or hiring managers on LinkedIn also counts as a job search activity? I've been doing that but didn't think to document it.

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As someone who's worked in various school support roles, I can tell you that the "reasonable assurance" determination really varies case by case. What helped me was keeping detailed records of my work history - dates worked, hours, and any communication about future employment. For substitutes specifically, the fact that your work depends on unpredictable teacher absences works in your favor. When you apply, emphasize that substitute work is inherently uncertain and that summer months offer essentially zero opportunity for substitute positions since regular teachers aren't typically absent during break periods. Also, don't let the phone wait times discourage you from following up on your claim if needed - persistence is key with NYS Department of Labor.

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This is such valuable insight about keeping detailed records! I never thought about documenting the unpredictable nature of substitute work as evidence for my case. You're absolutely right that summer basically has zero substitute opportunities since teachers aren't absent during break. I'm going to start keeping a log of all my work dates and any communications with the district. Did you find that having this documentation helped speed up the determination process, or was it more useful if you had to appeal a denial?

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I've been working as a substitute teacher for three years and finally figured out the system after getting denied twice. The key thing that helped me was understanding that as a per-diem substitute, you're in a fundamentally different position than contracted teachers. When you file, make sure to emphasize that you have NO guaranteed hours or income during summer - substitutes only work when regular teachers call out sick, and that obviously doesn't happen during summer break. I also recommend filing your claim immediately when school ends rather than waiting, because there can be delays in processing. One tip that really helped: when they ask about "reasonable assurance," be very specific that while the district may call you again in fall, there's absolutely no guarantee of how many days you'll work or if you'll work at all. That uncertainty is what distinguishes substitute positions from regular teacher contracts.

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Noah Ali

I'm so sorry this happened to you - what a frustrating situation to be in! I actually work in HR and see rescinded offers more often than you'd think, especially when companies face sudden budget constraints. The good news is that NYS Department of Labor definitely recognizes this as a valid reason for unemployment benefits. When you file, I'd recommend being very specific about the timeline and circumstances. Include details like when you received the offer, when you accepted, any onboarding activities you completed, and exactly when they rescinded it. The fact that you have written documentation of the entire process will really help your case. Also, don't worry about not filing initially - many people make that same decision when they think they have employment lined up. The important thing is filing now that your circumstances have changed through no fault of your own.

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Mei Wong

Thank you so much for the HR perspective - that's really valuable insight! It's oddly comforting to know that rescinded offers happen more frequently than I thought, even though it's still incredibly frustrating to deal with. I really appreciate the specific advice about including all those timeline details and onboarding activities. I did complete background checks and even filled out tax forms, so I'll make sure to mention all of that when I file. It's reassuring to hear from someone who sees this from the employer side that NYS Department of Labor recognizes these situations. I was beating myself up about not filing initially, but you're right - it seemed logical to wait when I thought I had a sure thing. Thanks for taking the time to share your professional experience!

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I just wanted to add my support and say don't let this situation discourage you from filing! I had a somewhat different but related experience where I accepted a job offer, gave notice at my current position, and then the new company had a hiring freeze before my start date. I was panicked about whether I'd qualify for unemployment since I had voluntarily left my previous job. But NYS Department of Labor was actually very understanding about the whole situation. They classified it as an involuntary separation since the job I left for was no longer available through no fault of my own. The key is being completely honest and thorough in your application. Your situation with the rescinded offer is even more straightforward since you were already unemployed when they pulled the offer. You're absolutely entitled to those benefits - that's exactly what the system is there for!

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