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Carmen Vega

When to Start Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) for someone turning 72 this year

I'm hoping someone can help clarify this situation. My mother is turning 72 in early December this year. I'm trying to figure out when she needs to start taking her Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) from her retirement accounts. Her investment advisor at the bank is telling her she needs to start taking withdrawals THIS year (2023), but I've been reading the IRS guidelines and I'm pretty sure she doesn't need to start until 2024 since she turns 72 after December 31, 2022. The advisor is being really pushy about this and I don't want mom to take money out unnecessarily if she doesn't have to. I've tried looking at the IRS website and I think I understand what it says in Q3 about RMD timing, but I'd really appreciate if someone could confirm whether I'm reading this correctly or if the advisor is right. Mom's pretty anxious about making a mistake with her retirement funds and getting penalized.

You're absolutely right and the advisor is incorrect. Under current rules, for someone turning 72 in December 2023, their first RMD year would be 2024, not 2023. The SECURE Act changed the age for starting RMDs from 70½ to 72 for those who turn 70½ after December 31, 2019. Then the SECURE 2.0 Act further changed the age to 73 for individuals who turn 72 after December 31, 2022. Since your mother turns 72 in December 2023, she falls under the age 73 rule. However, since she was born before 1951, she's in a transition period where the RMD age is still 72 for her. But the key point is she doesn't turn 72 until December 2023, so 2024 is her first RMD year.

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Thanks so much for clarifying! So just to make sure I've got this 100% correct - even though she turns 72 in 2023, she doesn't need to take an RMD until 2024, right? I was pretty sure that was the case but the advisor was so insistent that I started doubting myself.

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That's correct. She turns 72 in December 2023, so 2024 is her first RMD year. The deadline for taking her first RMD would actually be April 1, 2025 (which is the April 1 following the calendar year she turns 72). However, keep in mind that if she waits until 2025 to take that first distribution, she'll need to take two distributions in 2025 - the 2024 RMD (by April 1, 2025) and the 2025 RMD (by December 31, 2025). This can sometimes create a higher tax burden in that year, so many people choose to take their first RMD during their first RMD year rather than delaying.

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Just want to add some extra info that might help beyond the RMD starting date: make sure you calculate the RMD amount correctly! The first year RMD is based on the retirement account balance as of December 31 of the year BEFORE the first distribution year, divided by the life expectancy factor from the IRS tables. So for your mom, they would use the December 31, 2023 balance to calculate the 2024 RMD amount. The IRS updated their life expectancy tables in 2022, which generally results in slightly smaller required distributions than under the old tables.

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That's really helpful, thanks! Do you know which specific IRS table we should be using for someone who is taking their first RMD? I've seen several different ones mentioned online.

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For your mom's situation, you'll use the Uniform Lifetime Table, which is the standard table for most retirement account owners. The only time you'd use a different table is if your mom's spouse is more than 10 years younger than her and is the sole beneficiary (then you'd use the Joint Life and Last Survivor Table). For someone turning 72 in 2023, the distribution period factor from the current Uniform Lifetime Table would be 27.4. So you'd take the December 31, 2023 account balance and divide by 27.4 to get the RMD amount for 2024.

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Has anyone dealt with a situation where the financial advisor is pushing for early RMDs like this? I'm curious if there's some financial incentive for them to have clients take distributions earlier than required? My dad's advisor did something similar.

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In my experience working adjacent to the industry (not an advisor myself), sometimes advisors earn commissions on transactions including distributions. Or they might be trying to sell you products with the withdrawn funds. Definitely worth asking directly how they're compensated for the advice.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my own mother who turns 72 in November this year. Her advisor at Edward Jones was also pushing for RMDs to start in 2023, but after doing my own research and getting a second opinion, I confirmed she doesn't need to start until 2024. What really helped me was getting everything in writing from the IRS. I called their retirement plans hotline (though it took forever to get through) and had them confirm the timeline in writing. The key thing the agent emphasized is that the RMD requirement is based on the tax year you turn 72, not the calendar year - so since your mom turns 72 in December 2023, her first RMD year is 2024. I'd suggest having your mom ask her advisor to provide written documentation of their recommendation and the specific IRS regulation they're citing. A legitimate advisor should be able to back up their advice with official sources. If they can't or won't, that's a red flag that they might not be giving accurate guidance.

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That's excellent advice about getting everything in writing! I'm definitely going to ask mom's advisor to provide the specific IRS regulation they're citing. It's concerning that multiple people here have had similar experiences with advisors pushing for early RMDs when it's not required. The point about it being based on the tax year you turn 72 versus the calendar year is really helpful clarification. I feel much more confident now that we're interpreting the rules correctly. Thank you for sharing your experience with Edward Jones - it's reassuring to know we're not the only ones dealing with this situation. I think I'm going to have mom get a second opinion from a fee-only advisor who doesn't earn commissions on transactions, just to be absolutely sure we're getting unbiased advice.

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I'm actually a tax professional who specializes in retirement planning, and I want to emphasize that everyone here giving advice about waiting until 2024 is absolutely correct. Your mother's advisor is wrong, and unfortunately this kind of misinformation is more common than it should be. Since your mom turns 72 in December 2023, her "required beginning date" for RMDs is April 1, 2025 (the April 1st following the calendar year in which she turns 72). This means her first RMD year is 2024, and she has until April 1, 2025 to take that first distribution if she chooses to delay it. The fact that her advisor is being "pushy" about this is concerning. I'd strongly recommend getting a second opinion from a fee-only financial planner or tax professional who doesn't have any financial incentive to encourage unnecessary distributions. Taking an RMD early when it's not required can have significant tax implications and reduce the growth potential of her retirement savings. You might also want to file a complaint with FINRA if the advisor continues to provide incorrect information about federal tax requirements, especially if they're pressuring your mother into unnecessary transactions.

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