When to start taking RMDs for someone turning 72 this year in December - 2022 rules vs. current
Title: When to start taking RMDs for someone turning 72 this year in December - 2022 rules vs. current 1 I need a reality check from folks who understand tax rules around retirement distributions. My mother is turning 72 the first week of December this year. I've been helping her organize her retirement accounts, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't need to start Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) until 2024 since she turns 72 after January 1st this year. However, her financial planner is insisting she needs to take her first RMD this year (2023). I've reviewed the IRS guidelines about RMDs and specifically Question 3 which seems to indicate she wouldn't start until next year. Am I missing something here? The financial planner seems pretty confident, but I want to make sure we're following the correct rules before moving forward with any distributions. The last thing I want is for my mom to face penalties for not taking RMDs when required or taking them too early and messing up her tax situation.
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Paolo Ricci
9 You're absolutely right to question this. The RMD rules changed with the SECURE Act and then again with SECURE Act 2.0. Currently, if your mother turns 72 in 2023, she doesn't need to take her first RMD until 2024. The required beginning date would be April 1, 2025, but taking it in 2024 usually makes more sense to avoid two distributions in the same tax year. Your financial planner might be confused because the rules used to require RMDs starting at 70½, then it changed to 72, and now it's even increasing to 73 for people born between 1951 and 1959. Since your mom is turning 72 in December 2023, she falls under the 72 age requirement but doesn't need to start distributions until the following year.
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Paolo Ricci
•15 Thanks for this info - I've been so confused about these changing rules! My husband turns 72 in October this year and his advisor told him to wait until 2024 for his first RMD. But my sister was told she needed to take hers this year when she turns 72 in November. Are there any special circumstances where someone would need to take RMDs in the same year they turn 72?
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Paolo Ricci
•9 There are generally no special circumstances where someone turning 72 in 2023 would need to take an RMD in 2023. The confusion probably stems from the multiple changes to the rules in recent years. For your husband and sister both turning 72 in 2023, they both fall under the same rules - first RMD would be for tax year 2024, with a required beginning date of April 1, 2025. However, most financial advisors recommend taking that first distribution in 2024 rather than waiting until April 2025 to avoid having two distributions in the same tax year (which could push someone into a higher tax bracket).
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Paolo Ricci
18 I went through this exact same confusion with my dad's accounts last year! After getting conflicting advice from two different advisors, I finally found the right answer using https://taxr.ai which analyzed all his retirement account statements and tax situation. It walks you through the specific RMD rules that apply to your situation and explains all the recent law changes. It confirmed we could wait until the year after he turned 72 to start taking distributions.
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Paolo Ricci
•12 How exactly does that work? Does it look at all your retirement accounts together or do you have to enter them separately? My parents have accounts spread across like 3 different companies and trying to figure out their RMDs is giving me a headache.
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Paolo Ricci
•7 I'm skeptical of online tools for something this important. How do you know it's giving accurate information with all the tax law changes? Does it actually reference the specific IRS publications and SECURE Act provisions? My CPA charges me $250 just to calculate RMDs each year.
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Paolo Ricci
•18 It handles multiple accounts really well. You just upload statements from different providers, and it consolidates everything to calculate the correct RMD. It saved me from having to manually track accounts from Fidelity, Vanguard, and an old 401(k). The tool specifically references all the relevant IRS publications, SECURE Act provisions, and SECURE 2.0 updates. It actually shows you which specific rules apply to your situation and cites the exact tax code sections. I was impressed with how detailed the explanations were while still being easy to understand.
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Paolo Ricci
12 Just wanted to follow up - I tried that taxr.ai site that was mentioned and it was incredibly helpful! I uploaded statements from my parents' Fidelity, Vanguard, and Edward Jones accounts, and it produced a comprehensive report showing exactly when my mom needs to start taking distributions (next year, not this year). It even calculated the exact amount she'll need to withdraw from each account. What a relief to have this all sorted out! The explanations about the SECURE Act changes were really clear too.
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Paolo Ricci
6 If you're getting conflicting information from financial advisors, I highly recommend calling the IRS directly to get a definitive answer. The problem is their wait times are insane - I spent 3+ hours on hold last month trying to get an answer about my mom's RMDs. Finally found a service called https://claimyr.com that got me connected to an IRS agent in less than 15 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - totally changed my perspective on dealing with the IRS. The agent confirmed the April 1st requirement for the year following the year you turn 72.
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Paolo Ricci
•3 Wait, how does this service work? Is it legit? The IRS phone system is basically impossible to navigate. I've given up after being on hold for 2+ hours multiple times. Is there some secret way to get through that I don't know about?
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Paolo Ricci
•22 Sounds like a scam. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. Everyone has to wait their turn. And why would you need to call them anyway when the rules are clearly stated on the IRS website? This is just someone trying to make money off people's frustration with hold times.
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Paolo Ricci
•6 It's a completely legitimate service that uses technology to navigate the IRS phone system and holds your place in line. When they're about to connect with an agent, you get alerted and jump on the call. It's not skipping the line - you're still waiting your turn, just not having to personally sit on hold. Regarding the IRS website, have you looked at it recently? The RMD rules are spread across multiple publications, have changed multiple times, and contain exceptions and special cases. Getting confirmation from an actual IRS agent provides peace of mind, especially when advisors are giving conflicting advice.
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Paolo Ricci
22 I have to eat my words here. After dismissing that Claimyr service as a likely scam, I decided to try it when I needed to ask about my late father's estate taxes and couldn't get through to anyone at the IRS. I'm shocked to say it actually worked exactly as promised. Was connected to an IRS rep in about 20 minutes (after previously trying for 4+ hours over multiple days). The agent was able to confirm the RMD rules we were discussing - if you turn 72 in 2023, your first RMD is for tax year 2024 with a deadline of April 1, 2025. Worth every penny for the time saved.
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Paolo Ricci
11 Just want to point out that different types of retirement accounts might have different rules. For IRAs, the rule about turning 72 in 2023 and starting RMDs in 2024 is correct. But for 401(k)s, if your mother is already retired, she might have different requirements. Some employer plans require distributions to begin earlier. Worth checking the specific plan documents or having her HR department confirm if she's still working.
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Paolo Ricci
•5 What about for someone who's still working past 72? My dad is 73 and still working full-time at the same company where he has his 401(k). Does he need to take RMDs from that 401(k) while still employed there?
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Paolo Ricci
•11 For someone still working past RMD age, they generally don't have to take RMDs from their current employer's 401(k) plan while still employed there. This is known as the "still working exception." However, this exception only applies to the 401(k) at their current employer. They would still need to take RMDs from any IRAs they own and from 401(k)s from previous employers. Also, if your dad is a 5% or greater owner of the company, the still working exception doesn't apply, and he'd need to take RMDs regardless.
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Paolo Ricci
4 I've been managing my in-laws' finances for years and can confirm the RMD age is now 72 (soon to be 73 for younger folks). For someone turning 72 this year, their first RMD year is 2024, not 2023. One important thing to note: the first RMD can be delayed until April 1 of the year following the year you turn 72 (so April 1, 2025), but that means you'd have to take two distributions in 2025 (the delayed 2024 RMD plus the regular 2025 RMD). Usually better tax-wise to take that first distribution in the actual year it's for.
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Paolo Ricci
•2 This is really helpful. Do you know if QCDs (Qualified Charitable Distributions) count toward satisfying the RMD requirement? My mom is turning 72 and wants to donate to her church directly from her IRA.
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Jamal Harris
•Yes, QCDs absolutely count toward satisfying RMD requirements! Your mom can make qualified charitable distributions directly from her IRA to eligible charities (like her church) starting at age 70½, even before RMDs begin. The QCD amount counts dollar-for-dollar toward her RMD requirement for that year. The maximum annual QCD amount is $100,000 per person, and the distribution goes directly from the IRA custodian to the charity - she never receives the money personally. This is often a great tax strategy since the QCD isn't included in her taxable income, unlike regular RMDs. Just make sure her church is a qualified 501(c)(3) organization and get proper documentation for tax purposes.
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