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Understanding Inherited IRA RMD Rules - Multiple Beneficiaries Question

So I'm trying to wrap my head around the Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) situation for an inherited IRA. Here's where things stand: My dad had a traditional IRA and was taking his RMDs when he passed in August 2023 at 82 years old. My mom inherited it, but she just passed away in February 2024 at 85. Now me and my two siblings have each inherited 1/3 of the IRA. I'm currently 45. I've been staring at Publication 590-B until my brain hurts, but this is what I *think* is happening: 1) I need to take an RMD this year based on the account value as of December 31, 2023 (well, 1/3 of it since it's split between us siblings). The denominator comes from Table III in Appendix B. Mom would've turned 86 this year, so that gives me 15.2 as the denominator. 2) After taking this year's RMD, I don't think I have any more annual RMDs. 3) But I believe I fall under the 10-year rule, meaning I have to empty the entire account by December 31, 2034. I've moved the account from my parents' Edward Jones advisor to Vanguard. I'm hoping Vanguard will handle these calculations, but I'm not confident they have all the details about the inheritance history. Plus, I'd like to understand this myself anyway. Any help making sense of this mess would be greatly appreciated!

You're mostly on the right track! Since your dad had already started RMDs and your mom was the beneficiary, when you inherited from your mom, you're considered a "successor beneficiary." Here's what that means: 1) Yes, you need to take an RMD this year based on your mom's life expectancy factor from Table I (not Table III). Since she would have been 86 this year, the factor is 14.1. So take your 1/3 share of the Dec 31, 2023 balance and divide by 14.1. 2) You're correct that you don't need to take annual RMDs after this year's distribution. 3) You're also correct about the 10-year rule. As a non-spouse successor beneficiary, you must empty the account by December 31, 2034 (the 10th anniversary of your mom's death). One key thing: make sure Vanguard knows this is a successor beneficiary situation (inherited twice). They should set up the account correctly, but it helps if you understand the rules too. They'll need death certificates for both parents and dates of death to properly code the account.

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Wait, I thought Table I was only for the original IRA owner? Isn't Table II for beneficiaries? And why would it be the mom's life expectancy and not the successor beneficiary's age?

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You're thinking of the old rules. For successor beneficiaries (someone who inherits an IRA that was already inherited once), you continue using what the first beneficiary was using. Since mom inherited from dad, she used her life expectancy factor from Table I. When you inherit from mom, you continue using mom's factor, reduced by 1 for each year that passes. When mom died, you "step into her shoes" for RMD purposes. That's why you use her age, not yours. After this year's RMD, the 10-year rule kicks in and you just need to empty the account within that timeframe with no further annual RMDs.

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you request to have the account properly titled! The correct titling for an inherited IRA should be something like: "[Original Owner's Name], deceased [date of death], IRA F/B/O [Your Name], beneficiary of [Second Owner's Name], deceased [date of death]" If the account isn't titled correctly, it can cause confusion about which RMD rules apply. I went through this with my parents' IRA and it became a nightmare because the first institution didn't title it correctly, and then when I transferred it, the receiving institution got confused about whether I was a first or second-generation beneficiary.

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Does the account title really matter that much? I thought as long as I keep good records of when everyone passed away and who inherited what, it would be fine?

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The account title absolutely matters because it establishes the chain of inheritance, which determines which distribution rules apply. Without the proper title, financial institutions may apply the wrong rules, especially when you transfer between institutions. When I transferred my inherited IRA without the proper title, the receiving institution thought I was the original owner and tried to hit me with early withdrawal penalties when I took distributions. It took months to straighten out. Your records are important, but the account title is what the financial institutions and eventually the IRS will look at first.

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Has anyone dealt with taking that first year RMD with a successor beneficiary situation? I missed mine and got hit with the penalty - it dropped from 50% to 25% with the SECURE 2.0 Act, but that's still brutal! Make sure you don't miss the deadline.

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When is the deadline exactly? Is it December 31 of the year after the second person died? Or is it April of the following year?

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The deadline is December 31st of the year following the second death. So in this case, since the mom died in February 2024, the first RMD as a successor beneficiary would be due by December 31, 2024. There's no April 1st extension like there is for your first RMD as an original account owner. The penalty reduction to 25% (and potentially down to 10% if corrected quickly) under SECURE 2.0 is helpful, but you're absolutely right that it's still painful. I'd recommend setting a calendar reminder well before December 31st to make sure you don't miss it!

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