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What's the difference between EIN vs tax ID for W-2 employees? Employer confusion

So I'm trying to get my paperwork in order for a new job and I'm totally confused about what my potential employer needs. They asked me for my "tax ID" but I'm not sure if they mean my EIN or something else. I called the IRS to ask about getting a tax ID and they kept referring to an old business I started back in 2018 that I shut down a long time ago. Apparently I had created an EIN for that business. The IRS rep gave me that old EIN number and mentioned something about it being permanent? But I'm applying for a regular W-2 position now, not trying to be a contractor or business owner. I'm confused if this old EIN is what my new employer needs or if "tax ID" means something else entirely? Is an EIN the same as a tax ID? And which one would a regular W-2 employee need to provide to their employer? This is probably a super basic question but I'm genuinely confused after that call with the IRS.

Debra Bai

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The confusion is understandable! Let me clarify this for you: "Tax ID" is a general term that can refer to different identification numbers used for tax purposes. For individuals, your Social Security Number (SSN) is your personal tax ID. For businesses, an Employer Identification Number (EIN) is their tax ID. As a W-2 employee, your employer needs your SSN, not an EIN. You only need an EIN if you're operating a business, working as an independent contractor filing Schedule C, or have employees yourself. The IRS rep was correct that once an EIN is issued, it's permanently associated with that business entity, even if the business is no longer active. However, this old EIN from your previous business is irrelevant for your current W-2 employment situation. When your new employer asks for your "tax ID," they're almost certainly asking for your Social Security Number, which they'll need to report your wages and withholding to the IRS.

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Wait so if I'm a freelancer doing work for different companies, should I be giving them my SSN or do I need to get an EIN? I've just been giving everyone my social but now I'm wondering if that's not right...

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Debra Bai

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As a freelancer, you can use either your SSN or an EIN when completing W-9 forms for clients. Many freelancers choose to get an EIN for privacy reasons, as it allows you to avoid sharing your SSN with multiple clients. If you're comfortable continuing to use your SSN, that's perfectly legal and acceptable. However, getting an EIN can add a layer of identity protection since you won't have to share your SSN with every client. You can apply for an EIN easily online through the IRS website at no cost.

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JaylinCharles

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I have to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After my frustrated comment I decided to try it anyway because I'd been trying to reach the IRS for TWO WEEKS about my own tax ID confusion (had a similar mix-up between my personal and business numbers). It actually worked exactly as described. Their system called me back about 45 minutes later with an IRS agent on the line. The agent cleared up my whole situation in about 10 minutes. I would have spent another week trying to get through on my own. For anyone confused about the EIN vs tax ID thing - the IRS agent confirmed that "tax ID" is just a general term. For individuals it's your SSN, for businesses it's an EIN. For W-2 employment, you always use your SSN. Simple as that once you actually get to talk to someone who knows!

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Heads up - make sure you're providing the correct number to your employer because they need it for your W-2 form! If you give them an EIN instead of your SSN, your income won't be properly reported to Social Security, which could affect your future benefits. I accidentally gave my LLC's EIN instead of my SSN to an employer once, and it created a HUGE headache at tax time. My W-2 was filed under the wrong number, and my tax return got rejected. Had to file an amended W-2 and everything. For a W-2 position, you 100% need to give them your SSN as your tax ID.

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Lucas Schmidt

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What happens if you don't have a SSN but have an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number)? Would you use that instead for W-2 jobs?

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Yes, if you have an ITIN instead of an SSN, you would provide your ITIN to your employer for W-2 jobs. The ITIN serves the same function as an SSN for tax purposes when you're not eligible for a Social Security Number. Just make sure your employer knows it's an ITIN and not an SSN, as there may be some additional documentation they need to complete. But functionally, the ITIN is your personal tax ID number in this case and is what should go on your W-2 forms.

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Freya Collins

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Ok heres my stupid question of the day - how do I even find my EIN if I did make one years ago? I think I might be in the same boat as OP where I created one for a little side business years ago but have no idea what it was or how to look it up. Does the IRS have like a lookup tool or something?

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LongPeri

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Not a stupid question at all! There are a few ways to find an old EIN: 1. Check old tax returns where you might have used it 2. Look at any old business bank account paperwork 3. If you filed business taxes, check those records 4. Call the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933 Unfortunately, the IRS doesn't have an online lookup tool for security reasons. But the phone number above is specifically for business tax issues, so they can usually help locate your EIN if you can verify your identity.

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Freya Collins

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Thanks for the suggestions! I found it in an old email from when I applied. Turns out I never actually used it for anything lol. And yeah just to confirm what others have said - I called and they confirmed EINs never expire, even if you never used the business.

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Diego Fisher

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Just wanted to add something that might help others in similar situations - when you're filling out your I-9 form for employment eligibility verification, that's completely separate from the tax ID discussion here. The I-9 is about proving you're authorized to work, while the W-4 form (where you provide your tax ID) is about tax withholding. I got these confused when I started my current job and was overthinking what documents I needed. Your employer will have you fill out both forms, but they serve different purposes. For the W-4, you'll use your SSN (or ITIN if applicable) as your tax ID, regardless of any business EINs you might have from past ventures. Hope that helps clear up another potential source of confusion for anyone going through the new employee paperwork process!

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