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Omar Fawaz

Do I need a new EIN for my LLC after registering as a sole proprietor?

Hey tax peeps, I'm in a bit of a pickle here. About a year ago, I registered for an EIN as a sole proprietor for my side business doing graphic design work. Recently, I formed an LLC for better liability protection (after a client threatened to sue me over a misunderstanding - whole other story!). Now I'm confused about the EIN situation. Can I just keep using my sole proprietor EIN with the new LLC structure, or do I need to apply for a completely new EIN? And if I do need a new one, what happens to my old EIN? Do I need to formally cancel it or notify the IRS somehow? I've been looking through the IRS website but getting mixed messages. I don't want to mess this up and cause tax problems down the road. Any advice would be super appreciated!

You'll need to get a new EIN for your LLC. When you change business structures from a sole proprietorship to an LLC, the IRS considers this a new business entity that requires its own tax identification number. For your old sole proprietorship EIN, you don't technically need to "cancel" it. There's no formal process for canceling an EIN. Instead, you should file a final tax return for your sole proprietorship business indicating it's your final return. This effectively closes out that business entity with the IRS. When you file taxes going forward, you'll use your new LLC's EIN for all business activities. Make sure to update your EIN information with any vendors, clients, or financial institutions you work with so they have the correct information for tax reporting purposes.

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Diego Vargas

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So if I understand correctly, I can't just "transfer" my existing EIN to the new LLC? I've already been using the sole prop EIN for 3 years and have all my banking set up with it. Will I need to open new business accounts too?

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That's correct, you can't transfer an EIN from a sole proprietorship to an LLC, as they're considered separate entities by the IRS. You'll need to apply for a new EIN specifically for your LLC. Yes, you'll likely need to open new business bank accounts using your new LLC's EIN. Most banks require that business accounts match the legal business structure and tax ID. This separation is actually important for maintaining the liability protection your LLC provides, as commingling funds between your personal/old business and new LLC can potentially pierce the corporate veil.

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Nia Jackson

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure when you get your new EIN for the LLC, you choose the correct tax treatment option. A single-member LLC can be treated as a "disregarded entity" for tax purposes (meaning you'll still file Schedule C with your personal return), OR you can elect to be taxed as a corporation. This choice has HUGE tax implications, so think carefully about it. The default for a single-member LLC is disregarded entity status, which means the tax filing process will be similar to your sole prop, just with a different EIN. If you elect corporate taxation, it's a whole different ballgame.

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Omar Fawaz

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This is super helpful, thanks! I hadn't even considered the tax treatment options. Is there a specific form I need to fill out to select how I want the LLC to be taxed? Or is this something I decide when filing my taxes?

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Nia Jackson

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You're welcome! If you want to accept the default tax classification (disregarded entity for a single-member LLC), you don't need to file any special form. That happens automatically when you get your EIN. If you want to elect to be taxed as a corporation, you'd need to file Form 8832 (Entity Classification Election). For S-Corporation treatment specifically, you'd file Form 2553. These elections have deadlines tied to your business formation date and tax year, so don't delay if you're considering these options.

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Has anyone used the online EIN application on the IRS website recently? I'm wondering if it's working better now. Last time I tried (about 2 years ago), the system kept crashing and I ended up having to mail in the paper form which took FOREVER to process.

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CosmicCruiser

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I just got an EIN for my LLC last month using the online system. It worked perfectly and I got my EIN letter immediately! The whole process took maybe 15 minutes. The key is to do it during their operating hours (7am-10pm Eastern time, Monday-Friday). If you try outside those hours, it won't work.

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Aisha Khan

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Just a heads up - when you get your new LLC EIN, don't forget to update it with ALL your payment processors (PayPal, Stripe, Square, etc) and any platforms where you sell your services. I forgot to update mine with one platform and it caused a huge mismatch when they issued my 1099-K. Took months to sort out with the IRS!

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Omar Fawaz

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Omg thank you for this reminder! I use both PayPal and Square for client payments, and definitely would have forgotten to update them. Do you know if there's a specific time I should make these updates? Like should I wait until the start of a new tax year or do it immediately after getting the new EIN?

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Aisha Khan

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I'd recommend updating them as soon as your LLC is fully operational and you're ready to switch your business activity over to the new entity. The cleanest approach is to make a clear cutoff - for example, as of July 1, all new business runs through the LLC with its new EIN. If possible, doing this transition at the beginning of a calendar quarter makes your accounting cleaner. But the most important thing is to communicate clearly with your payment processors about the change and keep meticulous records of when the switch happened, so you can properly allocate income between your sole prop and LLC for tax purposes.

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Just went through this exact same situation last month! One thing I learned that wasn't immediately obvious - when you apply for your new LLC EIN, make sure you have your LLC's Articles of Organization handy. The IRS online application will ask for specific details like your LLC's formation date and the state where it was formed. Also, don't stress too much about the timing. You can continue operating under your sole prop EIN while you're waiting for the new LLC EIN to come through, as long as you make the switch before filing your next tax return. Just keep good records of which income/expenses belong to which entity during any overlap period. The whole process is actually pretty straightforward once you get started - much less scary than it seems when you're reading about it online!

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through it! I was worried about the timing aspect - like what happens if there's a gap between when I stop using my sole prop EIN and when I get the new LLC one. Good to know I can keep operating during that transition period. Quick question - when you say "make the switch before filing your next tax return," do you mean I need to have everything switched over by December 31st for this tax year? Or can I make the change partway through the year and just split the income appropriately on my returns?

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