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Do I need a new EIN when switching from Sole Proprietor to LLC?

I'm feeling really confused about this whole EIN situation. So I registered for an Employer Identification Number a couple years ago when I was just running my business as a sole proprietor. But now I've formed an LLC for some liability protection (my business is growing and I'm getting nervous about mixing personal/business stuff). Do I have to get a completely new EIN now that I have an LLC, or can I just keep using the one I already have from my sole proprietorship days? And if I do need to get a new one, is there some process to cancel or deactivate the old EIN? Do I need to file something with the IRS to say "hey, I'm not using this one anymore"? I'm trying to get all my business paperwork in order before tax season and this is the one thing that's really confusing me. Thanks for any help!

When you convert from a sole proprietorship to an LLC, whether you need a new EIN depends on how your LLC is taxed. For a single-member LLC that's taxed as a disregarded entity (which is the default for single-member LLCs), you can continue using your sole proprietor EIN. In this case, the IRS still treats your business as a sole proprietorship for tax purposes, even though it's an LLC for legal purposes. However, if your LLC elects to be taxed as a corporation (either S-Corp or C-Corp), or if it's a multi-member LLC, then you DO need to apply for a new EIN because the IRS considers these as different tax entities. As for your old EIN, there's no formal "cancellation" process. If you need a new EIN, you simply stop using the old one and start using the new one. The IRS generally expects you to keep your EIN throughout the life of your business entity. Just make sure to use the correct EIN on all your tax filings going forward.

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But what happens with the old EIN? Doesn't the IRS get confused if you just stop filing with it? Do they flag your account or something?

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The IRS doesn't generally get confused when you stop using an old EIN. When you file using your new EIN and stop filing with the old one, they understand this as a business evolution. There's no need to formally "close" the old EIN. If you're worried about loose ends, you can include a statement with your final tax return using the old EIN explaining that you've formed an LLC and will be using a new EIN going forward. This provides clear documentation of the transition.

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Javier Torres

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Malik Johnson

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Ravi Sharma

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I'm honestly shocked. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr myself because I was desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my EIN issue. Within 20 minutes, I was talking to an actual IRS agent who confirmed that I DID need a new EIN because I had added a partner to my business when forming the LLC. The agent was super helpful and even walked me through how to apply for the new EIN online and what to do with my old sole proprietor accounts. Saved me from making a huge mistake on my business taxes this year. I would have kept using my old EIN and probably triggered all kinds of red flags.

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Freya Thomsen

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Here's what I learned when I went through this: the key thing to understand is how your LLC is being taxed. Single-member LLC taxed as disregarded entity = keep your sole prop EIN Multi-member LLC = new EIN required Single-member LLC electing corporate taxation = new EIN required I was a single-member LLC staying as a disregarded entity, so I kept my EIN. My accountant explained that in the eyes of the IRS, nothing had really changed from a tax perspective, just the legal liability structure changed.

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Omar Zaki

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What about if you already have the LLC but haven't been using it? Like if I formed an LLC years ago but kept operating as a sole prop with that EIN, and now want to start actually using the LLC structure?

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Freya Thomsen

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If you formed an LLC years ago but continued operating as a sole proprietor using your sole prop EIN, and now want to start using the LLC structure, you'll need to evaluate your situation based on how you want the LLC to be taxed. If you're going to be a single-member LLC taxed as a disregarded entity, you can generally continue using your sole prop EIN since the IRS still views you as a sole proprietorship for tax purposes. However, since you've had the LLC dormant for years, it would be cleaner to get a new EIN for the LLC to clearly mark the transition point in your business operations.

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AstroAce

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you're switching to an LLC with an S-Corp election (which can save on self-employment taxes), you ABSOLUTELY need a new EIN. I tried to use my sole prop EIN when filing Form 2553 to elect S-Corp status and got rejected. Had to get a new EIN first, then file the election. Just something to keep in mind if tax savings is part of why you're making the switch to an LLC!

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Chloe Martin

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I was actually considering the S-Corp election! How much did it actually save you on self-employment taxes? Was it worth the extra paperwork?

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The S-Corp election saved me about $3,200 in self-employment taxes last year on around $85K in profit. The key is you have to pay yourself a "reasonable salary" as an employee, which is subject to payroll taxes, but any remaining profits are distributions that avoid the 15.3% self-employment tax. The extra paperwork isn't too bad - you need to run payroll for yourself (I use QuickBooks Payroll), file quarterly 941s, and your tax return is a bit more complex. But the tax savings definitely made it worthwhile for me. Just make sure your profit level justifies the extra complexity - generally recommended when you're making $60K+ in business income.

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I just went through this exact same process last month! The confusion is totally understandable because the rules aren't super clear until you dig into the specifics. Here's what I learned: since you're going from sole prop to LLC, you need to figure out how your LLC will be taxed. If you're staying as a single-member LLC and NOT electing corporate taxation, you can actually keep using your existing sole prop EIN. The IRS treats single-member LLCs as "disregarded entities" by default, which means for tax purposes, you're still essentially a sole proprietorship. However, if you're adding partners (making it multi-member) or electing S-Corp or C-Corp taxation, then yes, you need a new EIN. The good news is there's no formal process to "cancel" your old EIN if you do need a new one - you just stop using it and start using the new one. I'd recommend calling the IRS Business Tax Line to confirm your specific situation, though fair warning - it can take a while to get through! Also, make sure to update your EIN with your bank, any business accounts, and vendors once you figure out what you need to do. That was the part I almost forgot!

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Oliver Cheng

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Thanks for laying this out so clearly! I'm in a similar situation and was getting overwhelmed by all the different advice online. Quick question - when you say "calling the IRS Business Tax Line," is that different from the regular IRS customer service line? I've tried calling the main IRS number before and could never get through to anyone who could help with business questions. Also, did you end up keeping your sole prop EIN or getting a new one? I'm leaning toward just keeping mine since I'm staying single-member and not electing corporate taxation, but I'm worried I might be missing something important.

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Cedric Chung

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Yes, the Business & Specialty Tax Line is different from the regular customer service line! The number is 1-800-829-4933, and they're specifically trained to handle business tax questions like EIN issues, entity elections, and business structure changes. They're much more knowledgeable about these topics than the general customer service reps. I ended up keeping my sole prop EIN since I stayed as a single-member LLC without any tax elections. It's been working perfectly fine - I just make sure to use my LLC name on all business documents while keeping the same EIN for tax purposes. The IRS sees it as the same tax entity, just with liability protection added. One thing to double-check though - make sure your state doesn't have any specific requirements about EINs when you register your LLC. Some states are picky about this stuff, even if the IRS is flexible. But federally, you should be good to keep your existing EIN if you're staying single-member and disregarded entity status.

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This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the same thing when I converted my consulting business from sole prop to LLC last year. The deciding factor really comes down to your tax election. Since you mentioned you're doing this for liability protection (smart move!), you're probably planning to stay as a single-member LLC with disregarded entity status - which means you can absolutely keep your existing EIN. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: even though you can keep the same EIN, make sure to update your business name with your bank and any vendors to reflect the LLC. I kept getting confused looks when my checks said "ABC Consulting LLC" but my EIN paperwork still showed my personal name from the sole prop days. Also, definitely keep good records of when you made the transition. I created a simple folder with my LLC formation date, operating agreement, and a note about continuing to use my sole prop EIN. Makes things much cleaner if the IRS ever has questions down the road. The liability protection alone makes the LLC worth it - you're making a smart business decision even if the tax side stays exactly the same!

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Paolo Bianchi

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This is really helpful! I'm actually in the exact same boat - formed my LLC for liability protection but planning to keep everything else the same tax-wise. Quick question about updating the business name with banks - did you run into any issues with them wanting to see new tax documents or anything like that when you changed from your personal name to the LLC name? I'm worried my bank is going to make this more complicated than it needs to be, especially since I'm keeping the same EIN. Did they ask for any specific documentation to prove the connection between the old sole prop and the new LLC?

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