Do I need to file IRS forms 5472 and 1120 for 2 LLCs with identical names?
I'm in a confusing situation with my LLCs and could use some advice about tax filing requirements. Back in 2023, I registered an LLC in Delaware, got an EIN by submitting Form SS-4, but then abandoned it shortly after. I never filed any IRS forms 5472 or 1120 as a foreign owner because I decided the LLC wouldn't work for my needs and I wanted to dissolve it. Fast forward to this year, and I've created a new LLC in New Mexico with exactly the same name - I finally found a use for an LLC and NM made more sense for my situation. When I applied for a new EIN with another SS-4, the IRS responded to my old Delaware LLC address saying I can only have one EIN and it's permanent. They explained that for SS-4 purposes, single-member LLCs are treated as sole proprietorships, and the EIN was assigned to me personally (even though I'd be using the LLC's business name). The IRS suggested I just update my address if I "moved" the business to another state. But I didn't move anything - I created a completely different LLC, which I clearly indicated on the form. Here's where I'm really confused: For forms 5472 and 1120, single-member foreign-owned LLCs are considered corporations (regardless of chosen status), so these forms need to be filed annually even without reportable transactions. If I file these forms next year for my new NM LLC, I'd have to use the EIN from my old abandoned Delaware LLC... but the incorporation date would be different. How do I handle this for tax purposes? Am I still on the hook for the Delaware LLC's filing requirements? Do I need to file back taxes for the years I missed? And what's the proper way to report for my new NM LLC using the same EIN?
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Dylan Evans
This is actually a common misunderstanding when dealing with LLCs and EINs, so don't worry too much. The IRS is correct that an EIN is attached to you as the business owner rather than to a specific LLC entity when it's a single-member LLC. For your Delaware LLC that you abandoned, you should have filed a final return for that entity. Since you're a foreign owner of a single-member LLC, it would have been treated as a disregarded entity for most tax purposes, but as you correctly noted, it's treated as a corporation for Forms 5472 and 1120 filing requirements. You technically were required to file these forms even if you had no activity. For your new New Mexico LLC, you should use the same EIN since the IRS considers it the same taxpayer (you) from their perspective. However, you'll need to file Form 8832 (Entity Classification Election) to clarify the status of your new LLC and update your information with the IRS. You may need to address the missed filings for your Delaware LLC by filing delinquent returns. The IRS can assess penalties of $25,000 for each Form 5472 not filed, so this isn't something to ignore.
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Sofia Gomez
•But if the EIN is attached to me personally rather than the LLC, why would I need to file Forms 5472 and 1120 for a disregarded entity? I thought those were only for corporations. And if I use the same EIN for my new NM LLC, won't that create confusion since they have different formation dates but the same name and EIN?
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Dylan Evans
•You've touched on a key distinction in how the IRS treats single-member LLCs with foreign owners. While a domestic single-member LLC is typically disregarded for federal tax purposes, foreign-owned single-member LLCs have special requirements. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act specifically requires these entities to file Form 5472 and 1120 even though they're disregarded for most other purposes. It's essentially treating your LLC as a corporation for information reporting purposes only. Regarding the confusion with dates, you'll need to maintain clear records distinguishing between the two entities. On your forms, you would use the incorporation date of the new NM LLC, but continue using your existing EIN. The IRS is mainly concerned with tracking you as the taxpayer, rather than the specific legal entity structure in each state. Just make sure to document everything clearly for your records.
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LunarEclipse
To add something that hasn't been mentioned yet - you should also check state tax requirements for both your abandoned Delaware LLC and your new New Mexico LLC. Even if you never conducted business in Delaware, some states require filing annual reports and tax returns just for having an LLC registered there. For your New Mexico LLC, you'll need to make sure you're properly registered for state taxes there too. If you're using the same EIN, be extra careful that you're not accidentally creating nexus in both states, which could subject you to taxation in both places. Also, as a foreign owner, don't forget about potential FBAR and FATCA requirements depending on your specific situation. Those have separate, equally harsh penalties for non-compliance.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
•Thanks for bringing this up. I did pay the Delaware annual franchise tax for 2023, but then stopped when I abandoned the LLC. Should I have formally dissolved it with the state? As for New Mexico, I've registered for gross receipts tax but didn't think about how using the same EIN might create confusion. Would filing state tax returns in NM using the same EIN potentially trigger Delaware to think I'm still active there?
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LunarEclipse
•Yes, you should have formally dissolved your Delaware LLC by filing a Certificate of Cancellation with the Delaware Division of Corporations. Without formal dissolution, Delaware will continue to consider your entity active and may assess annual franchise taxes and penalties for failure to file. For New Mexico, using the same EIN shouldn't automatically trigger issues with Delaware, as they're separate state systems. However, for clarity in your records and to prevent future confusion, I strongly recommend formally dissolving the Delaware entity. It typically costs around $200 to file the dissolution paperwork, which is much cheaper than continued annual fees or potential penalties. The good news is that most states allow late dissolutions, so you can still properly close the Delaware LLC even though it's been a while since you abandoned it. This clean break will help you avoid any state tax complications while you focus on resolving the federal filing requirements we discussed earlier.
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Yara Khalil
Just wanted to share what I learned from my tax attorney about this specific situation, as I went through something nearly identical. The key is understanding the distinction between: 1) Your actual legal entities (the Delaware LLC and the New Mexico LLC), which are separate under state law 2) How the IRS classifies and tracks these entities for federal tax purposes For the IRS, since you're a foreign owner of a single-member LLC, your entities are considered "foreign-owned disregarded entities" that have special reporting requirements. The IRS cares less about which state they're in and more about tracking you as the foreign owner. Using the same EIN is correct in your situation, but you ABSOLUTELY need to file those 5472 forms for any years your Delaware LLC existed. The penalties are insane - $25,000 per form per year - and they've been actively enforcing them since 2018.
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Keisha Brown
•Is there a way to check if the IRS has already assessed penalties for the unfiled 5472 forms? I'm worried they might have been sending notices to my old address.
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