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Arjun Patel

Is the EIN the same as Tax ID number for a new LLC I'm starting?

So I'm launching a small startup and I'm way out of my comfort zone with all this paperwork. I'm a developer by trade and this legal/business stuff has me totally confused. Just got my EIN (Employer Identification Number) from the IRS for my LLC, but now I'm wondering - is this the same thing as the Tax ID number? Or do I need to apply for something else? I feel like I'm missing something here. Business admin is definitely not my strong suit, and I'm trying to figure this out as I go. Any help would be really appreciated!

Jade Lopez

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Good news - the EIN (Employer Identification Number) that you received from the IRS IS your Tax ID number. They're the same thing, just different names! The 9-digit EIN serves as your business's Tax ID for all federal tax purposes. You'll use this number when filing your business tax returns, opening business bank accounts, applying for business licenses, and when handling employee tax matters if you hire staff. Think of it as your business's social security number. Since you already have your EIN, you're all set on this front. No need to request another number or identification for federal tax purposes.

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Arjun Patel

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Oh that's such a relief! I was worried I'd have to go through another application process. So I can just use this EIN for everything tax-related? What about state taxes? Is it the same number or do I need something else for state-level stuff?

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Jade Lopez

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Yes, you'll use that same EIN for all your federal tax matters! For state taxes, it depends on your state. Many states use the federal EIN for state tax purposes too, but some states issue their own separate state tax ID numbers. You'll want to check with your specific state's department of revenue or taxation website. Usually, when you register your business with the state, they'll tell you if you need a separate state tax ID or if you can just use your federal EIN. If you're collecting sales tax, you might need a separate sales tax permit number as well.

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Tony Brooks

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Does it work for S-corps too? I'm trying to decide between LLC and S-corp and wondering if this would help figure out the differences in paperwork requirements.

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Yara Campbell

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Sounds interesting but how secure is it? I'm always nervous about uploading tax documents to random websites. Do they store your business info or is it just a one-time analysis?

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Tony Brooks

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Yes, it absolutely works for S-corps too! It actually has a comparison feature that shows the different documentation requirements between LLCs and S-corps, which might help with your decision. It breaks down the pros and cons of each structure for your specific situation. As for security, they use bank-level encryption and don't permanently store your documents. They analyze them and then the files are automatically deleted after 14 days. You can also manually delete them immediately after analysis if you prefer. I was skeptical at first too, but their privacy policy is really solid.

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai that the previous commenter recommended. It was super helpful! I uploaded my business formation documents and it immediately clarified that my EIN is indeed my Tax ID number. But the best part was it showed me all the state-specific requirements I was missing for my LLC. Apparently I needed a separate state tax ID in my state (which I had no idea about) and it guided me through the application process. Saved me from potential penalties down the road!

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Maya Diaz

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Wait, how does this actually work? Do they have some special connection to the IRS or something? Sounds too good to be true honestly.

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Tami Morgan

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Yeah right. No way this actually works. I've been dealing with the IRS for years and there's no "skip the line" trick. You just have to call at 7am and wait like everyone else. Sounds like a scam to me.

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Isaac Wright

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They don't have special IRS connections - they use a system that calls and waits on hold for you. It's basically like having someone else sit on hold instead of you. When they detect that a human agent is about to answer, they call your phone and connect you. I was super skeptical too! But the way it works is completely legitimate. They're not skipping any lines or doing anything special with the IRS - they're just handling the painful waiting part. I was surprised when it actually worked, especially since I had been trying to get through for weeks on my own with no luck.

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Tami Morgan

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Ok I have to eat my words. After posting that skeptical comment I decided to try Claimyr just to prove it wouldn't work. Well... it actually worked exactly as described. I got a call back in about 35 minutes and was connected to an IRS business tax specialist. I asked about using my EIN for some special situations with independent contractors and got all my questions answered in one call. Saved me from a full day of redial hell. Sometimes being wrong feels pretty good!

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Rami Samuels

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Just adding a bit more context about EINs/Tax IDs since I work in small business accounting. Your EIN will be used for: 1. Filing business tax returns (Form 1065 for partnerships or Form 1120 for corps) 2. Opening business bank accounts 3. Building business credit 4. Applying for business loans 5. Hiring employees (for payroll taxes) Some banks might also ask for a copy of your EIN confirmation letter from the IRS, so keep that somewhere safe! Also, if you're a single-member LLC, you could choose to use your SSN for tax purposes instead of your EIN (though I don't recommend it).

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Arjun Patel

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This is super helpful! Quick question - do I need to put the EIN on all my invoices to clients or is that not necessary? Also, how do I know if I'm considered a "single-member" LLC? It's just me right now but I might bring on partners later.

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Rami Samuels

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You don't typically need to put your EIN on invoices to clients unless they specifically request it. Some larger companies or government entities might require it for their vendor records, but it's not generally required for standard invoicing. A single-member LLC means you're the only owner. If it's just you right now, then yes, you're a single-member LLC. If you bring on partners later, you'd convert to a multi-member LLC, which would require different tax filing (partnership return instead of reporting on your personal return). That's a fairly simple process, so don't worry too much about that now - you can cross that bridge when you get there.

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Haley Bennett

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Has anyone used their EIN to open a business credit card? I just got mine for my new marketing LLC and I'm wondering how soon I can apply for business credit. My personal credit isn't great but I heard business credit is separate?

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I got a business credit card about 2 months after getting my EIN, but they still checked my personal credit. Most business cards for new businesses will require a personal guarantee unless your company has established credit history. So while the EIN helps establish a separate business identity, your personal credit will still matter initially.

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Zoe Papadakis

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As someone who went through this exact same confusion when I started my consulting business, I can confirm what others have said - your EIN IS your Tax ID number! They're literally the same thing with different names. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: make sure you keep that EIN confirmation letter in a safe place (and scan a copy to the cloud). You'll need it for opening business bank accounts, and some banks are really picky about having the official IRS letter rather than just the number written on a napkin. Also, since you mentioned you're a developer starting a startup, you might want to consider whether you'll need to collect sales tax in your state for any software or services you'll be selling. That would require a separate sales tax permit in most states, but you'd still use your EIN/Tax ID for the application process. The business admin stuff definitely gets easier once you get the basics sorted out. You're already ahead of the game by getting your EIN early!

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Ravi Sharma

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! Thank you for the reassurance about the EIN being the Tax ID - I was starting to second-guess myself. And great point about keeping the confirmation letter safe. I actually just have it sitting in a pile of papers on my desk right now, so I'll definitely scan it and put the original somewhere secure. The sales tax question is really helpful too. I'm planning to offer both SaaS subscriptions and some consulting services, so I'll need to look into whether either of those requires sales tax collection in my state. This whole business setup process feels like drinking from a fire hose, but breaking it down into these specific steps makes it way more manageable. Thanks for the encouragement that it gets easier - as a developer, I'm used to complex systems, but business/legal stuff feels like learning a completely different programming language!

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Great question! I went through this same confusion when setting up my small business last year. Yes, your EIN (Employer Identification Number) IS your Tax ID number - they're exactly the same thing, just different names for the same 9-digit identifier. You'll use this EIN/Tax ID for: - Filing your business tax returns - Opening business bank accounts - Any tax-related paperwork - If you hire employees down the road Since you mentioned you're a developer starting up, one additional tip: make sure to keep both a physical and digital copy of your EIN confirmation letter from the IRS. Banks often want to see the official letter when you open business accounts, not just the number itself. You're all set on the federal tax ID front! No need to apply for anything else from the IRS for tax identification purposes.

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This is really helpful! I'm also just starting out with my first LLC and was wondering about the same thing. Quick follow-up question - when you say banks want to see the official EIN confirmation letter, is that the CP 575 notice that the IRS sends out? I applied for my EIN online and got it immediately, but I'm still waiting for something in the mail. Should I wait for that letter before trying to open a business bank account, or is there another way to prove I have a valid EIN?

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