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Amina Toure

What is included in "state and local taxes" limit for Schedule A deductions?

Hey so I've been doing my own taxes with FreeTax USA for the past couple years but I'm kinda confused about something on my deduction summary. Looking at the breakdown page I noticed: For 2024: state and local taxes greater than $10,000 = ($0) For 2025: state and local taxes greater than $10,000 = (-$21,644) I'm really confused about what's actually included in this "state and local taxes" category that has this $10,000 cap. Is it just state income tax I paid? Does it include property taxes too? Why is there nothing over the limit for 2024 but then suddenly over $20k for 2025? Does this mean I'm losing deductions? Thanks for any help explaining this - tax stuff makes my head spin sometimes!

Oliver Weber

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The "state and local taxes" category (often called SALT) that has the $10,000 cap includes several different types of taxes you pay at the state and local level. This includes: 1. State and local income taxes 2. Property taxes on your home and other real estate 3. State and local sales taxes (though you typically choose between deducting income taxes OR sales taxes, not both) The $10,000 SALT deduction limit was part of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. What your tax summary is showing is that in 2024, your combined state and local taxes didn't exceed the $10,000 cap, so you were able to deduct all of them. But in 2025, your combined SALT was $31,644 ($10,000 + $21,644), meaning you could only deduct $10,000 and lost the ability to deduct the remaining $21,644.

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Amina Toure

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Ohhh that makes so much more sense! So basically I paid way more in combined state taxes and property taxes in 2025 than in 2024, but I can only deduct up to $10,000 of it regardless? Does this happen to a lot of people? I bought a house in late 2024 so I'm guessing the property taxes are what pushed me over the limit. Is there anything I can do to get more of this deduction?

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Oliver Weber

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Yes, you've got it exactly right! The $10,000 SALT cap affects many homeowners, especially in states with higher income and property taxes. Your property purchase in late 2024 is almost certainly what pushed you over the limit for 2025. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do to get around the $10,000 SALT cap on your federal return. It's a hard limit. However, there are a few things to consider: some states have created workarounds for business owners, and if you're married, you might want to explore if filing separately could help in your specific situation (though this often doesn't help and can cause other limitations). Make sure you're maximizing other available deductions like mortgage interest, which isn't subject to the SALT cap.

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Does it work with FreeTax USA exports? Or only with the PDF of the completed return? I'm having similar issues understanding some of the limitations on my itemized deductions.

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I'm skeptical about these tax analysis tools. How does it actually find "missed deductions" if you're already using tax software? Doesn't FreeTax USA already check for all possible deductions? And how much does this service cost?

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FireflyDreams

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CosmicVoyager

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Former tax preparer here. A trick many people don't know about the SALT deduction cap: if you're married, sometimes it makes sense to file separately and each take a $10,000 SALT deduction (total $20,000 between you) instead of being limited to $10,000 jointly. But be careful - this only works in specific situations and can cause other deductions to be limited. For the original question: the SALT category includes state/local income taxes (or sales taxes if you choose that instead), real estate taxes, and personal property taxes. The big ones that typically push people over are property taxes and state income taxes, especially in states like CA, NY, NJ, etc.

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Amina Toure

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That's really interesting about filing separately! My partner and I are planning to get married later this year - would this strategy potentially help us since we both own property? Are there big downsides to filing separately I should know about?

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CosmicVoyager

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Filing separately can help in your situation since you both own property, but there are significant potential downsides. You'll lose several tax benefits when filing separately, including: reduced student loan interest deductions, limited IRA contribution deductions, no education credits, reduced capital loss deductions, and potentially higher tax rates. You need to run the numbers both ways before deciding. The benefit of getting $20,000 in SALT deductions ($10,000 each) versus $10,000 jointly needs to outweigh what you'd lose from those other benefits. Also, some states require you to file the same way on state returns as federal, which could eliminate any advantage if your state has higher taxes when filing separately.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Can someone explain why my tax software is showing completely different numbers for the SALT cap in different sections? On one screen it shows I exceeded the cap by $8,235 but then in the summary section it says I'm under the cap. I'm so confused!

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Oliver Weber

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Tax software can sometimes display information confusingly. What might be happening is one screen is showing your total SALT taxes (before the cap) while another is showing what's actually being deducted after applying the $10,000 limit. Or there could be business/rental property taxes in one total that aren't subject to the cap.

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Freya Nielsen

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Check if some of your property taxes are for a rental property or business. Those would be reported on Schedule E or Schedule C, not Schedule A, and aren't subject to the $10,000 SALT cap. The software might be calculating correctly but displaying the information in a confusing way.

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This is a great question that trips up a lot of people! The SALT deduction cap is one of the most confusing parts of the current tax code. Just to add some context to the excellent explanations already given - the reason you're seeing such a dramatic difference between 2024 and 2025 is likely because: 1. You mentioned buying a house in late 2024, so 2025 is your first full year of property tax payments 2. Property taxes can easily be $15k-25k+ annually depending on your location and home value 3. Combined with state income taxes, this quickly pushes you over the $10k cap One thing to keep in mind is that this SALT cap is currently set to expire after 2025, so it may not be a permanent limitation. However, nothing is guaranteed until Congress acts. Also, make sure you're not double-counting any property taxes that might have been prorated at closing - those should only be deducted once, in the year you actually paid them to the tax authority (not necessarily when they were due).

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This is really helpful context! I hadn't thought about the timing aspect with the property tax proration at closing. When I bought my house in December 2024, there were some property tax adjustments on the closing statement - should I be looking at what I actually paid to the county versus what was shown on the closing docs? Also, it's good to know the SALT cap might expire after 2025. Do you know if there's any indication from Congress about whether they'll extend it or let it expire? This would make a huge difference for my tax planning going forward, especially since I'm probably going to be hitting this cap every year now as a homeowner.

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Miguel Ortiz

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For the property tax proration question - you should deduct what you actually paid to the taxing authority (county/municipality), not what appeared as adjustments on your closing statement. At closing, you and the seller typically split the annual property tax bill based on how many days each of you owned the property that year. The closing statement shows this proration, but only the amounts you actually paid to the tax collector are deductible. As for the SALT cap expiration, Congress hasn't made any definitive moves yet, but there's been discussion from both parties about addressing it. Some want to eliminate the cap entirely, others want to raise it, and some want to extend it as-is. With it expiring after 2025, we'll likely see more concrete proposals as we get closer to the deadline. For planning purposes, I'd prepare for both scenarios - having the cap continue and having it expire - since the political winds can change quickly on tax policy.

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