What is included in the state and local taxes deduction cap for 2025 filing?
I've been doing my own taxes with TurboTax for a while now but I'm confused about something on my deduction summary pages. It shows: Year 2018 state and local taxes greater than $10,000 = ($0) Year 2019 state and local taxes greater than $10,000 = (-$24,240) What exactly is included in the category of "state and local taxes" for this $10,000 limit? Is it just income taxes or does it include property taxes too? And why would it show $0 one year but a negative amount the next? I'm trying to plan ahead for my 2025 filing and want to understand if I'm hitting some kind of cap.
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Paolo Bianchi
The state and local tax (SALT) deduction has a $10,000 cap that was introduced with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017. This category includes state and local income taxes, property taxes, and sales taxes (though you generally choose between income OR sales taxes). What you're seeing in your TurboTax summary is the amount that exceeds the $10,000 limit. In 2018, you didn't exceed the cap, so it shows $0. In 2019, you paid $34,240 in state and local taxes (the $10,000 allowed plus the $24,240 excess shown as negative), but could only deduct $10,000 of it. The negative number represents the amount you COULDN'T deduct because of the cap. This cap is currently set to continue through 2025, so keep this in mind for your tax planning. Many taxpayers in high-tax states feel this pinch significantly.
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Yara Assad
•Thanks for explaining! So if I paid $15,000 in property taxes and $7,000 in state income taxes in 2024, I'd only be able to deduct $10,000 total on my 2025 return? Would it make any difference if I prepaid any of these taxes? I've heard about people trying to "bunch" deductions but not sure if that works for SALT.
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Paolo Bianchi
•The $10,000 SALT cap applies regardless of when you actually pay the taxes, so prepaying won't help you exceed the limit. If you paid $15,000 in property taxes and $7,000 in state income taxes, your total SALT would be $22,000, but you'd still only be able to deduct $10,000 on your federal return. Unfortunately, "bunching" strategies work well for charitable deductions and some medical expenses, but not for SALT because of the hard $10,000 cap. The remaining $12,000 in your example simply wouldn't be deductible on your federal return.
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Olivia Clark
After struggling with SALT deduction questions last year, I tried taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) and it was super helpful. I uploaded my tax documents and it broke down exactly what counted toward my SALT cap and what didn't. It spotted that I was mixing up some tax payments that shouldn't have been included, which actually saved me from a potential audit flag. The tool also showed me how my property tax reassessment affected my overall deduction strategy. Definitely worth checking out if you're trying to optimize around the SALT cap for your 2025 filing.
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Javier Morales
•Does it work with docs from previous years too? I think I might've been overcounting my SALT deductions and I'm worried about an audit. How detailed is the breakdown?
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Natasha Petrov
•I'm skeptical of these tax tools. Does it actually explain the reasoning or just give you numbers? And how does it handle state-specific rules? I live in NJ where property taxes are insane.
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Olivia Clark
•Yes, it works with prior year documents too! You can upload tax forms from previous years and it will analyze them to spot potential issues. The breakdown is pretty detailed - it separates property taxes, income taxes, and even helps identify tax payments that might be misclassified. It definitely explains the reasoning behind its analysis. For state-specific situations like New Jersey's high property taxes, it actually highlights the impact of the SALT cap on your specific situation and explains alternative strategies. It flagged several deductions I was missing that offset some of the SALT cap limitations.
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Natasha Petrov
OK I have to admit I was wrong about taxr.ai. I tried it yesterday after posting my skeptical comment and it was actually really useful! Uploaded my 2023 returns and property tax statements and it instantly highlighted that I'd been miscategorizing some local fees as deductible taxes when they weren't. It also showed me exactly how much I was losing to the SALT cap ($13,470 last year!) and suggested some other deductions I wasn't maximizing to help offset it. The explanations were clear and I finally understand why my TurboTax summary had those negative numbers. Definitely using this for my 2025 filing prep.
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Connor O'Brien
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Amina Diallo
•How does this actually work? Do they just call for you or something? Seems weird that you could get through when no one else can.
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GamerGirl99
•Yeah right. The IRS never answers calls. I've tried literally 20 times this year. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it. Sounds like a scam to me.
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Connor O'Brien
•They use a system that holds your place in line with the IRS so you don't have to. When an agent is available, you get a call back. It's not that they have a special line or anything - they're just using technology to eliminate the need for you to stay on hold forever. It's definitely not a scam. I was super skeptical too, but I was desperate after trying for weeks to get through about my SALT deduction confusion. They got me connected to an IRS representative in about 2 hours when I had previously wasted entire days on hold and getting disconnected.
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GamerGirl99
I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself because I was getting nowhere with the IRS about my SALT deduction questions. I got a call back with an actual IRS agent on the line in about 3 hours. The agent explained that my TurboTax summary was showing the excess SALT amounts correctly and confirmed I was calculating my property and income tax deductions correctly. Saved me from filing an unnecessary amended return. Never thought I'd actually get through to a human at the IRS, but here we are!
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Hiroshi Nakamura
One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you're married filing separately, the SALT cap is $5,000 per person, not $10,000. Made that mistake last year and had to redo everything. Also, foreign property taxes aren't included in SALT anymore after TCJA. Just throwing that out there in case it helps someone!
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Isabella Costa
•Wait seriously? My spouse and I file separately sometimes for student loan reasons. Does TurboTax automatically adjust the cap or do you have to manually track this?
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Hiroshi Nakamura
•TurboTax should automatically adjust the cap to $5,000 when you select "Married Filing Separately" status. But it's always good to double-check the SALT deduction summary page to confirm it's applying the correct limit. The software usually handles this correctly, but it's easy to miss if you're not specifically looking for it. And yes, many people file separately for student loan purposes, so this is a common issue that affects those payment calculations too.
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Malik Jenkins
Does anyone know if vehicle registration fees count toward the SALT cap? I pay almost $900 a year and TurboTax has a special section for this, but I'm not sure if it's part of the $10,000 limit.
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Paolo Bianchi
•Only the portion of your vehicle registration fee that's based on the value of your vehicle counts as a personal property tax under SALT. The part that's a flat fee for registration doesn't count.
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Elijah Knight
This is really helpful info everyone! I've been wrestling with SALT deductions too since moving from a low-tax state to California. One thing I learned the hard way - if you have estimated tax payments, make sure you're allocating them correctly between federal and state portions. I was accidentally including my federal estimated payments in my SALT calculation and it threw everything off. Also, for anyone dealing with multi-state situations (like I was when I moved mid-year), each state's taxes still count toward the same $10,000 federal cap. So if you paid $6,000 to one state and $5,000 to another, you're right at the limit even though you dealt with two different tax systems. The timing of property tax payments can be tricky too - it's based on when you actually paid, not when the tax year was for. So December 2024 property tax payments go on your 2024 return even if it's for the 2025 tax year.
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