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Emma Taylor

How much of my State Tax Refund is Taxable after Itemizing Deductions?

I'm trying to understand how much of my state tax refund is taxable on my federal return. From what I've gathered, if you itemize deductions one year and then get a state tax refund the next year, that refund might be taxable income. But I'm confused about how the calculation works when there are limitations on itemized deductions. Like the $10k cap on SALT deductions and the difference between standard and itemized deductions. Here's my situation: Last year I itemized with total deductions of $28,500 instead of taking the $25,100 standard deduction. Then I received a state tax refund of $1,200. How much of that $1,200 is considered taxable income for this year's federal return? I've heard different things - some people say the whole refund is taxable, others say only a portion based on the difference between standard and itemized. Can someone explain the basic calculation here? Is it affected by hitting that $10k SALT cap?

The taxability of your state refund depends on whether you received a "tax benefit" from deducting those state taxes in the prior year. It's not as simple as saying the whole refund is taxable. The basic calculation looks at how much your itemized deductions exceeded the standard deduction. In your case, you itemized $28,500 while the standard was $25,100, giving you a benefit of $3,400. Since your state refund of $1,200 is less than that benefit, it would likely be fully taxable - but there's a catch! The $10,000 SALT cap is important here. If you already hit that cap with your property taxes alone (or with a combination that didn't include all your state income taxes), then some or all of your refund might not be taxable because you didn't actually get a tax benefit from those specific state income taxes. The IRS provides a worksheet in Publication 525 that walks through this calculation step by step, accounting for the SALT limitation.

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But wait, I'm confused about the SALT cap part. Let's say I paid $8,000 in property taxes and $4,000 in state income taxes last year, but got a $1,000 refund this year. Since I was already at $12,000 total SALT but could only deduct $10,000, does that mean none of my refund is taxable?

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You've got the right idea. If you paid $8,000 in property tax and $4,000 in state income tax but were limited to the $10,000 SALT cap, you effectively only benefited from $2,000 of your state income tax deduction ($10,000 cap minus $8,000 property tax). In your example, if you got a $1,000 state tax refund, it wouldn't be taxable because you didn't actually get a federal tax benefit from that portion of your state taxes due to the SALT cap. The IRS doesn't tax you on refunds of deductions you never benefited from in the first place.

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CosmosCaptain

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I created a spreadsheet to calculate this for my returns! Basically, you compare what your itemized deductions would have been WITHOUT the state tax that generated the refund. For example, if your total itemized deductions were $30k, but $2k of that was the state tax that generated a $1k refund, you'd recalculate your itemized deductions as $28k. If that's still above your standard deduction of $24k, then your refund is fully taxable. But if the recalculated amount would drop below the standard deduction, only the portion that gave you a benefit is taxable.

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StellarSurfer

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But does your spreadsheet account for the SALT cap too? That seems like the confusing part because you might have paid more state tax but couldn't deduct it all anyway because of the $10k limit.

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Yes! That's actually a crucial part of it. If you hit the $10k SALT cap, you first need to figure out what portion of that cap was used by state income taxes versus property taxes. If your property taxes already hit or exceeded the $10k cap, then none of your state income tax refund would be taxable because you received no federal tax benefit from the state income tax deduction. If your property taxes were less than $10k, then only the portion of state income taxes that fell under the cap would potentially create a taxable refund.

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Sean Kelly

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I messed this up on my taxes last year and had to file an amendment. I reported my entire state refund as taxable even though I was already over the SALT cap from property taxes alone! My tax guy said that was a common mistake. Check your 2020 Schedule A and see if line 5d (state and local income taxes) was actually included in your Schedule A line 5e total. If you hit the SALT cap with property taxes already, the state income tax deduction effectively gave you zero benefit, so the refund shouldn't be taxable.

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Zara Malik

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Is there a way to tell from last year's return if I actually got a benefit? I can see I hit the $10k SALT cap but I'm not sure if that was from property taxes alone or a mix of property and state income taxes.

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Luca Greco

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I think I made the opposite mistake! I didn't report any of my state refund because I hit the SALT cap, but I had like $6k property tax and $4k state income tax. So I guess I should've reported some of it?

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Sofia Perez

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This is such a confusing area! I went through the same thing last year and it took me forever to figure out. Here's what I learned from working through the IRS worksheet: The key is understanding that you only pay tax on refunds where you actually got a federal tax benefit from the original deduction. With the SALT cap, this gets tricky because you might have paid more in state/local taxes than you could actually deduct. For your situation with $28,500 itemized vs $25,100 standard (so $3,400 benefit), you need to look at HOW you got to that $10k SALT deduction. If your property taxes were say $7k and state income taxes were $5k, then you got the full benefit from both. Your $1,200 refund would likely be fully taxable since it's less than your $3,400 total benefit. But if your property taxes alone were $10k or more, then you got zero federal benefit from your state income tax payments, making the refund non-taxable. The IRS Publication 525 worksheet walks through this step by step, but honestly it's pretty confusing even with the examples. The main thing is figuring out what portion of your state taxes actually reduced your federal tax bill.

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Connor Rupert

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm in a similar boat trying to figure this out. Just to make sure I understand - if I had $12,000 in property taxes alone (so I was already maxed out on the SALT cap before even considering state income taxes), then ANY state tax refund I get would be completely non-taxable, right? Since I got zero federal benefit from those state tax payments in the first place? And on the flip side, if I had $6,000 property tax and $8,000 state income tax (but could only deduct $10,000 total), then a state refund would be taxable up to the $4,000 of state income tax that I actually got to deduct federally? I feel like I'm starting to get it but want to make sure I'm not missing something obvious here.

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You've got it exactly right! Your understanding is spot-on. In your first scenario with $12,000 property taxes alone - yes, any state tax refund would be completely non-taxable because you received zero federal benefit from those state income tax payments. The SALT cap was already maxed out before state income taxes even came into play. And yes to your second scenario too - with $6,000 property tax and $8,000 state income tax, you effectively only got to deduct $4,000 of your state income taxes ($10,000 cap minus $6,000 property tax). So any state refund would be taxable up to that $4,000 amount that actually provided you a federal tax benefit. The key insight you've grasped is that the IRS only taxes refunds of deductions that actually reduced your federal tax liability. If the SALT cap prevented certain taxes from being deductible, then getting refunds of those taxes doesn't create taxable income. It's one of those tax rules that actually makes logical sense once you understand the underlying principle - you can't be taxed on getting back money that never benefited you in the first place!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I was in a similar situation and was completely overthinking this. I had $9,500 in property taxes and $3,200 in state income taxes last year, so I was right at the $10,000 SALT cap with $2,700 of my state income taxes actually being deductible. When I got a $800 state tax refund this year, I initially panicked thinking the whole amount was taxable. But after reading through all these explanations, I realized that since only $2,700 of my state income taxes provided a federal benefit, and my refund was less than that amount, the full $800 refund is taxable income. The key insight for me was understanding that it's not about whether you hit the SALT cap or not - it's about which specific taxes within that cap actually gave you a federal deduction. In my case, both my property taxes AND a portion of my state income taxes fit under the $10k limit, so getting a refund on those state income taxes does create taxable income. Thanks everyone for breaking this down so clearly! The IRS worksheet suddenly makes a lot more sense now.

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Kristin Frank

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This is exactly the kind of real-world example that helps clarify the concept! Your calculation is spot-on - with $9,500 property tax and $3,200 state income tax, you got the full federal benefit from $2,700 of your state income taxes (the portion that fit under the $10k SALT cap along with your property taxes). Since your $800 refund is less than that $2,700 amount that actually reduced your federal taxes, the entire refund is indeed taxable income. I think what trips people up initially is thinking the SALT cap makes ALL state tax refunds non-taxable, when really it's much more nuanced than that. You have to trace back which specific portions of your state taxes actually provided a federal deduction benefit. Your breakdown really demonstrates how to work through that analysis step by step. It's also a good reminder that even if you're "close to" or "right at" the SALT cap, you might still have gotten meaningful federal tax benefits from your state income tax payments - unlike someone whose property taxes alone maxed out the cap entirely.

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Oliver Cheng

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This is such a helpful discussion! I was completely confused about this same issue until I worked through it step by step. For Emma's original question with $28,500 itemized vs $25,100 standard deduction - the $1,200 state refund taxability really depends on the breakdown of that SALT deduction. If you can find your prior year Schedule A (line 5a for state income taxes and line 5b for property taxes), that will show you exactly what went into your $10k SALT cap. The formula is basically: Look at how much of your state income taxes actually fit under the SALT cap after accounting for property taxes. That's the maximum amount of any state refund that could be taxable. Then compare that to your overall itemized vs standard deduction benefit to see if you actually got a federal tax advantage. One thing I learned the hard way - keep good records of what types of state/local taxes you paid because you'll need those details when refunds come in the following year. The IRS forms don't always make it obvious how to trace this back, especially when you're dealing with estimated payments, withholding, and property tax installments all mixing together. It's definitely worth getting this right because the difference between reporting the full refund as taxable versus the correct partial amount can be significant on your tax bill!

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AstroExplorer

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I'm dealing with this for the first time and was getting overwhelmed by all the different scenarios people mention online. Your point about keeping good records is so important - I'm already organizing my 2024 tax documents better so I don't have to dig through everything next year when refunds come in. One thing that's still not totally clear to me - if you made estimated quarterly payments for state taxes, does that change how the calculation works? Like if I paid $3,000 in quarterly estimates but my actual liability was only $2,500, so I get a $500 refund, is the taxability still based on whatever portion of that $2,500 actual liability gave me a federal benefit under the SALT cap? I'm trying to wrap my head around whether the IRS cares about what you actually paid versus what you actually owed when determining the tax benefit piece of this puzzle.

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