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Aaron Boston

Possible Bug Found in IRS Publication 525 Worksheet 2 for Itemized Deduction Recoveries

I think I've discovered an error in the IRS's instructions for handling state tax refunds. When you itemize deductions for state/local taxes one year and then receive a refund the next year, the IRS directs you to use Publication 525 Worksheet 2 (Recoveries of Itemized Deductions) to figure out how much of that refund is taxable income. But before getting to Worksheet 2, you're supposed to complete Worksheet 2a to determine the taxable portion of the refund. This is where I believe there's a problem. As I understand it, Worksheet 2a is supposed to calculate only the portion of your refund that actually affected your previous deduction (since only that part gave you a tax benefit). Step 4 looks at the excess state/local tax - basically your actual taxes minus your allowed deduction. If there was excess because you hit the $10,000 SALT cap, then not all of your refund should be taxable. But when I worked through the calculation, the worksheet seems flawed in how it handles this excess amount. Has anyone else noticed this issue or am I misinterpreting something in Publication 525? This could potentially cause people to report more taxable income than they should.

You've spotted something interesting there. Publication 525's worksheets for handling state tax refunds can definitely be confusing, but they're trying to implement what's called the "tax benefit rule" - you only have to include a recovery in income to the extent you received a tax benefit from it in a prior year. The issue with Worksheet 2a is that it's attempting to account for the SALT cap limitation, which was introduced with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Since the deduction for state and local taxes is now limited to $10,000, not everyone got the full benefit of all the state taxes they paid. If you hit that $10,000 cap, then you're right - not all of your refund should be taxable because part of what you paid never gave you a federal tax benefit in the first place. The worksheet is supposed to help you figure out that proportion, but the calculation can get tricky. Would you mind sharing which specific step in Worksheet 2a you think contains the error? That might help pinpoint if there's truly a flaw or if it's just a matter of interpretation.

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I believe the issue is in how Worksheet 2a handles the excess amount in Steps 4-6. If your state/local taxes paid exceeded the $10,000 SALT cap, Step 4 has you calculate that excess. But then in Steps 5-6, the worksheet doesn't properly account for this excess when determining what portion of your refund is taxable. For example, if I paid $15,000 in state taxes but could only deduct $10,000 due to the cap, and then received a $3,000 refund, intuitively only 2/3 of that refund should be taxable since I only got tax benefit from 2/3 of what I paid. But working through the worksheet gives a different result.

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You've hit on exactly why this calculation gets complicated. You're thinking about it correctly from a conceptual standpoint. If you paid $15,000 in state taxes, only deducted $10,000 due to the SALT cap, and then received a $3,000 refund, the IRS needs to determine whether that $3,000 came from the portion that gave you a tax benefit (the $10,000 you deducted) or from the excess that didn't benefit you (the $5,000 above the cap). The worksheet tries to establish a proportional approach to this problem, but I agree that in some scenarios it doesn't seem to work as expected. The key is understanding how the IRS views the relationship between the refund and your original payments - they essentially treat it as coming proportionally from both the deducted and non-deducted portions. Let me take a closer look at the latest version of Publication 525 to see if the instructions have been updated or clarified since you noticed this issue.

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I think I understand the issue you're describing. The problem appears to be how the worksheet allocates the refund between the portion of state taxes that were deductible (under the $10K SALT cap) and the portion that wasn't. The conceptually correct approach should be a proportional allocation. If you paid $15K in state taxes but could only deduct $10K (2/3 of what you paid), then only 2/3 of any refund should be taxable. But the worksheet doesn't seem to do this calculation properly in all cases. I recommend documenting your calculation method with a statement attached to your return if you decide not to follow the worksheet exactly. This creates a record of your reasonable interpretation of the tax benefit rule, which is the underlying principle that should govern this situation.

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Would attaching a statement really protect you from an audit though? I'm facing the same issue but worried about deviating from the official worksheet even if it seems flawed. Has anyone actually done this and had their return accepted?

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Attaching a statement doesn't guarantee protection from an audit, but it does demonstrate good faith and your reasoning for the calculation method you used. The IRS generally appreciates when taxpayers make reasonable efforts to comply with the tax code, even when the provided guidance is unclear. I've had clients take this approach for various issues where the IRS guidance was ambiguous or didn't address their specific situation, and it's generally been accepted. The key is to clearly explain your methodology and cite the relevant tax principle (in this case, the tax benefit rule) that supports your calculation. Remember that the worksheets are IRS guidance, not actual tax law. The underlying tax law principle is that you only include recoveries in income to the extent you received a prior tax benefit. If you can demonstrate that you're properly applying this principle, you're on solid ground even if you're not following the worksheet to the letter.

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For those interested in the technical details, I believe the specific issue is in how Worksheet 2a handles the refund allocation. Looking at the latest version, Step 5 has you multiply your refund by a fraction (state/local income tax deducted ÷ total state/local income tax paid). This seems correct conceptually. However, the problem may be in how this interacts with other types of SALT deductions (like property taxes) when you've hit the overall $10K cap. The worksheet doesn't seem to properly account for situations where you've claimed multiple types of SALT deductions that together hit the cap. Has anyone contacted the IRS about this potential issue? It seems like something they should clarify or correct in a future revision of Publication 525.

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I actually did contact the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service about this last year. They acknowledged the worksheet doesn't address every possible scenario with the SALT cap. They recommended following the worksheet when it clearly applies to your situation, but using a "reasonable method" based on the tax benefit rule when the worksheet doesn't fit. The advocate I spoke with said they were aware of several issues with the current worksheets and expected revisions in future publications, but couldn't give a timeline. She specifically mentioned the problem with mixed SALT deductions hitting the cap.

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This is a great discussion that highlights a real problem many taxpayers are facing. I've been dealing with this exact worksheet issue for my 2023 return and it's incredibly frustrating that the IRS hasn't provided clearer guidance. What I found helpful was creating my own calculation spreadsheet that follows the tax benefit rule more precisely. I calculated what percentage of my total state/local tax payments actually provided a federal tax benefit (considering the SALT cap), then applied that same percentage to my refund to determine the taxable portion. For example, if I paid $12,000 in state income tax and $8,000 in property tax ($20,000 total) but could only deduct $10,000 due to the SALT cap, then only 50% of my payments provided a tax benefit. So if I received a $2,000 state income tax refund, only 50% ($1,000) should be taxable income. This approach seems more aligned with the underlying tax principle than blindly following a worksheet that wasn't designed for post-TCJA scenarios. I'm planning to attach a brief explanation with my return showing this calculation method. Has anyone else taken a similar approach, and if so, have you had any issues with the IRS accepting it?

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Your approach makes perfect sense and aligns with what several others in this thread have described. I'm actually in a very similar situation - paid about $18K total in state/local taxes but could only deduct $10K due to the cap, so roughly 56% of my payments provided a federal tax benefit. I've been hesitant to deviate from the official worksheet, but after reading through this entire discussion and seeing that even IRS representatives have acknowledged the worksheet's limitations, I think your method is the most reasonable approach. The proportional calculation you described follows the core tax benefit rule principle much better than trying to force-fit the situation into a worksheet that wasn't designed for it. I'm curious - when you attach your explanation, are you planning to include references to specific tax code sections or just explain the reasoning? I want to make sure I document this properly if I go the same route. It sounds like several people here have successfully used similar approaches, which gives me more confidence. Thanks for sharing your calculation method - it's exactly what I needed to see to feel comfortable moving forward with this approach on my own return.

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