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Lindsey Fry

Why is my State and Local tax refund showing up as income on my federal return?

So I've been working on my taxes this weekend and ran into something strange. I've used TurboTax for almost two decades but this year something weird popped up. TurboTax is showing my State and Local tax refund from last year as part of my income for this year's federal return. What's even weirder is the amount it's showing isn't anywhere close to what my actual refund was. The software says it's not taxable though, which has me confused. If it's not taxable, why is it even showing up in my income section? Just to double-check, I started entering all the same info into FreeTaxUSA, and my refund there is coming out about $800 higher than what TurboTax calculated. The only real difference I can see is how they're handling this state/local tax refund. Is it actually necessary to include state and local tax refunds if they're not taxable anyway? I'm wondering if TurboTax is making some kind of mistake that's affecting my refund amount. Has anyone else dealt with this situation before?

Saleem Vaziri

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This is actually a common point of confusion! State and local tax refunds are potentially taxable on your federal return, but only if you itemized deductions in the previous year and received a tax benefit from deducting those state/local taxes. TurboTax is showing it as income because the IRS requires it to be reported, but then the software is calculating whether it's actually taxable. In many cases, the refund isn't fully taxable (or might not be taxable at all), especially with the higher standard deduction after tax law changes. The program typically asks about your previous year's tax situation to determine the taxable portion. The amount showing might differ from your actual refund because TurboTax is only counting the potentially taxable portion, not the entire refund. This is handled on the 1099-G form and calculated on the "State and Local Income Tax Refund Worksheet.

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Kayla Morgan

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Wait, so if I took the standard deduction last year (which I did because it was higher than my itemized would have been), does that mean my state refund shouldn't be taxable at all? Because TurboTax is still showing it in my income section even though I definitely took the standard deduction.

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Saleem Vaziri

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If you took the standard deduction last year, then your state refund should NOT be taxable at all! The reason is simple: you didn't get a federal tax benefit from deducting state taxes, so the refund isn't considered income by the IRS. TurboTax is likely showing it in your income section initially because it needs to report it (especially if you received a 1099-G), but then it should be applying the worksheet calculation to reduce the taxable amount to zero. This might explain the difference you're seeing between tax software programs - they may handle the display of this information differently, even when calculating correctly behind the scenes.

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James Maki

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Cole Roush

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James Maki

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Cole Roush

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Arnav Bengali

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How does this actually work? Don't they just connect you to the same IRS phone line that's always busy? I've been trying to get through for weeks about my amended return.

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Sayid Hassan

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Sayid Hassan

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Rachel Tao

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Another possibility worth checking: make sure you're answering the questions correctly in both software programs. In TurboTax, there's a specific question about whether you itemized or took the standard deduction last year. If you accidentally say you itemized when you actually took the standard deduction, it would explain why it's treating your state refund as taxable. Also, double-check your 1099-G amount against what TurboTax is showing. Sometimes the numbers can be off if there were adjustments to your state refund or if you received multiple refunds.

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Lindsey Fry

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That's a really good point! I just double-checked and I definitely selected that I took the standard deduction last year. When I look deeper into the calculation details in TurboTax, it does show the state refund on line 1 of the income section, but then somewhere in the calculations, it's showing $0 as the taxable amount. I think the confusion came from seeing it listed in the income section at all. I'm going to stick with FreeTaxUSA this year since the interface seems clearer for my situation. Thanks everyone for helping me understand what's happening!

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Derek Olson

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FYI - this is reported on Form 1040, line 1h (State and local income tax refund) and calculated on the "State and Local Income Tax Refund Worksheet" in the 1040 instructions. The worksheet specifically asks if you itemized deductions the previous year. If you answer "no" (meaning you took standard deduction), the taxable amount is $0. Both software should get this right but they present it differently in the interface.

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Danielle Mays

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This is super helpful! It would be nice if tax software made this clearer. So basically it has to be reported but then gets calculated to $0 if you took standard deduction? That explains why it shows up in income initially.

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