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Sean Kelly

Am I allowed to use Publication 525 for my state tax refund?

I'm currently working on my 2025 taxes and totally confused about how to handle a state tax refund I received in 2024 (for taxes I paid in 2023). When I follow the State and Local Income Tax Refund Worksheet in the 1040 instructions, it says my refund IS taxable. But then the 1040 instructions mention that under certain circumstances I should use Publication 525 instead. I don't think I meet any of the situations listed for using Pub 525, but here's the weird part - I started my taxes on H&R Block's website, and their system used Publication 525 and concluded my state tax refund is NOT taxable. I did have a couple unusual tax situations in 2024, but neither seem like they would trigger using Publication 525. I'm not sure if I should go with what H&R Block calculated or stick with the worksheet in the 1040 instructions. Has anyone dealt with this before? I don't want to make a mistake and have the IRS come after me later!

Zara Mirza

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The state tax refund taxability question can be confusing! The key difference between the worksheet and Publication 525 approach is how they account for limitations on your state tax deduction from the previous year. If you itemized deductions on your 2023 federal return and included state income taxes paid, then your 2024 state refund might be taxable - but only to the extent you actually received a tax benefit from deducting those state taxes. If you were subject to the $10,000 SALT (State And Local Tax) cap or if you were close to the standard deduction threshold, Publication 525 provides a more accurate calculation. H&R Block's software is likely detecting something in your 2023 return that indicates you didn't receive the full tax benefit from your state tax deduction, which would make some or all of your refund non-taxable under the Publication 525 rules.

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Luca Russo

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This is so confusing. If I itemized in 2023 but my total deductions were only slightly above the standard deduction, does that mean my state refund wouldn't be fully taxable? Also, does the SALT cap always trigger using Pub 525 instead of the worksheet?

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Zara Mirza

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If your itemized deductions were only slightly above the standard deduction, then yes, your state refund might not be fully taxable. For example, if your itemized deductions were $1,000 above the standard deduction, but your state refund was $1,500, only $1,000 of that refund would be taxable because that's the only part that actually gave you a tax benefit. The SALT cap doesn't automatically trigger using Pub 525, but it's one of the situations where the simpler worksheet may not give you the correct answer. If you were at or near the $10,000 SALT limit in 2023, then some or all of your state tax refund received in 2024 might not be taxable since you didn't get the full benefit of those deductions.

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Nia Harris

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GalaxyGazer

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How exactly does taxr.ai figure this out when even the regular tax software gets confused? Does it actually look at both years' returns to make the determination?

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Mateo Sanchez

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. How is this different from just using TurboTax or H&R Block? They're supposed to figure this stuff out too right?

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Nia Harris

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It analyzes your previous year's return specifically looking at the SALT cap impact and how close you were to the standard deduction threshold. The site looks at both years' information to determine the actual tax benefit you received from your state tax deduction. It's different from regular tax software because it's specifically designed to handle these edge cases that the mainstream software sometimes misses. While H&R Block eventually got it right for the original poster, many people using tax software don't understand why their refund is or isn't taxable, and the explanations are often buried in the technical details.

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Mateo Sanchez

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Carmen Vega

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Just to add another perspective - I was in a similar situation a couple years ago. The key is really whether you got the full benefit of your state tax deduction the previous year. Did you itemize in 2023? And if so, were you subject to the $10,000 SALT cap? If your total state/local taxes were over $10k but you could only deduct $10k due to the cap, then any refund of those taxes wouldn't be taxable since you never got a tax benefit from them.

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Sean Kelly

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Yes, I did itemize in 2023 and my total SALT deduction was pretty close to the $10k limit. I think it was around $9,800. Does that mean I should be using Publication 525 instead of the worksheet?

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Carmen Vega

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Since you itemized and your SALT deduction was close to but under the $10k limit, you should still check both methods. The worksheet is simpler but Publication 525 will give you the most accurate result if any of the special circumstances apply. Since your SALT was under the cap, the main thing to check would be how much your itemized deductions exceeded the standard deduction. If your itemized deductions were only slightly higher than your standard deduction, and your state refund is larger than that difference, then Publication 525 would likely show that not all of your refund is taxable.

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Did you have any other changes to your tax situation between 2023 and 2024? Sometimes things like taking the standard deduction one year and itemizing the next can affect whether you need to use Pub 525.

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Andre Moreau

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Not OP but I had this exact problem. I itemized in 2022, then took standard deduction in 2023, and got confused about how to handle my state refund in 2024. Publication 525 saved me about $400 in taxes that the worksheet would have had me pay unnecessarily.

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