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Here's a simple breakdown of RMD calculations for inherited IRAs as of 2025 filing: 1. Find the account value as of December 31 of the previous year 2. Locate your life expectancy factor in IRS Publication 590-B (Table I) 3. Divide the account value by your life expectancy factor 4. That's your RMD for this year For example, if you're 43 and the account was worth $275,000 on Dec 31, your life expectancy factor would be approximately 40.7. So your RMD would be about $6,757 ($275,000 รท 40.7). The reason it seems "crazy low" is because the distribution is designed to stretch over your lifetime. Each year, you'll use your life expectancy factor minus 1 from the previous year.
But doesn't the SECURE Act eliminate the stretch IRA approach you're describing? I thought that's what the 10-year rule was about - that I have to empty the account within 10 years now instead of spreading it over my lifetime. I'm so confused because different sources say different things!
You're right to be confused - the SECURE Act did eliminate the lifetime stretch for many beneficiaries, replacing it with the 10-year rule. However, there are exceptions based on when the original owner died and your relationship to them. Since your father died in 2022 and hadn't yet reached his required beginning date (age 72), you might still qualify for special treatment under certain circumstances. This is why your calculation seemed low - if you do qualify for the life expectancy method, you'll get a much smaller initial distribution than if you were simply dividing by 10 years. I'd recommend getting professional tax advice specific to your situation to confirm which method applies to you. The penalties for getting this wrong are significant (25% of the underpayment).
Has anyone else had issues with their financial institution giving them conflicting info about RMDs? Fidelity told me one thing, then Vanguard told me something completely different for the exact same situation with my dad's inherited IRA.
OMG yes! TD Ameritrade told me I had to take all the money out in 5 years, then Schwab said 10 years, and my tax guy said I could stretch it over my lifetime. I ended up requesting a private letter ruling from the IRS which cost me $10,000 but was worth it to get a definitive answer for my situation. The rules are so complicated now with all the SECURE Act changes.
In case anyone's curious about other valid methods for determining land vs building value for depreciation purposes, the IRS accepts several approaches: 1) Tax assessment ratio (what others have mentioned) 2) Property appraisal that separates land and improvements 3) Insurance replacement cost (for the building portion) 4) Land-to-building ratio typical for your specific neighborhood I'm a real estate investor with multiple properties and have used different methods depending on what documentation I had available. Just be consistent and keep good records of how you made the calculation.
Do you need to get a new appraisal specifically for this, or can you use the appraisal from when you purchased the property? My purchase appraisal has a land value listed but it's way higher than what the tax assessment suggests.
You can absolutely use the appraisal from when you purchased the property, assuming it breaks out the land value separately from improvements. That's actually one of the best documents to use since it's specific to your property and was done around the time of purchase. If your purchase appraisal shows a higher land value than the tax assessment suggests, you can use either method - but the appraisal might be more accurate since tax assessments can sometimes be outdated. The key is to pick a reasonable method and be consistent. Just document your reasoning and keep the appraisal with your tax records in case of questions later.
Um, I think everyone's overlooking something super basic here. The assessed values are usually WAY lower than market values bcuz counties use weird formulas and don't update them often. In my state (TX) assessed values are like 10% of actual value. So $21,000 ร 10 = $210,000. That matches your county's market value estimate! The ratios still work like everyone said, but the raw assessed numbers aren't supposed to add up to market value.
Just a heads up for everyone amending 2020 returns - make sure you're using the CORRECT forms. The IRS changed some of the business expense categories on Schedule C for that year. I messed up my first attempt because I used a current year Schedule C as my reference instead of the 2020 version. Also, if your amendment results in a refund, be prepared to wait a WHILE. My amended return took about 16 weeks to process last year. The IRS says to expect 16 weeks but it can take even longer.
Do you remember what specifically changed on Schedule C? I'm working on mine now and want to make sure I get it right.
The main differences weren't dramatic, but there were some COVID-related options that existed only for 2020 returns. For example, there were special provisions for the Employee Retention Credit and paid sick/family leave credits that appeared on that year's forms. The core expense categories stayed the same (advertising, car expenses, insurance, etc.), but some of the instructions and limitations were different due to pandemic relief provisions. Your best bet is to download the actual 2020 Schedule C form and instructions directly from the IRS website rather than using any current year references. That way you'll be working with the exact form as it existed then.
You might want to calculate if this is worth your time first. While you can definitely still amend a 2020 return, remember that you'll need to: 1) Recalculate your entire return with the new expenses 2) File Form 1040-X plus a new Schedule C 3) Include any supporting documentation 4) Wait potentially months for processing For $7,800 in business expenses, assuming you're in the 22% tax bracket plus self-employment tax, you might get back approximately $2,500. Only you can decide if that's worth the effort!
Have you tried reaching out to the partnership/S-corp that issued the K-1 directly? Sometimes they have a secure portal where they post the K-3s for download instead of mailing them. Worth checking if they have a website for investors/partners. Also, even if the "official" K-3 isn't ready until June, they might be able to give you a draft or preliminary numbers so you can at least estimate your tax liability for April. Usually, they won't change much between draft and final.
That's a good idea! I just checked and they do have an investor portal, but unfortunately, it also says the K-3s aren't ready yet. The message says "K-3s will be available by June 15th" which is the same thing the phone rep told me. I did email my contact at the partnership to ask if they could provide draft numbers, but haven't heard back yet. Do you think it would be bad to file an extension, then amend later if the numbers change significantly?
Filing an extension and then potentially amending later is absolutely fine and very common, especially with these K-1/K-3 situations. Many partnerships and investment firms routinely issue K-1s close to or even after the filing deadline, and the IRS fully expects that investors will need to file extensions. If the numbers end up being close to what you estimated, you might not even need to amend. You only really need to consider amending if there's a significant difference that would affect your tax liability. The threshold for "significant" varies, but generally a few hundred dollars difference in foreign tax credits might not warrant an amendment unless you're trying to maximize every credit.
Anyone know if TurboTax handles this situation? I'm in the exact same boat - checked Box 16 but no K-3 attached and partnership says coming in June. I really don't want to pay an accountant for something that seems like it should be simple.
TurboTax does have a section for K-1s but honestly it's not great with these special situations. Last year when this happened to me, TurboTax kept flagging it as an error that I couldn't resolve without the missing info. I ended up having to file an extension anyway. H&R Block's software actually handled it better - they have a specific option for "K-3 not yet available" that lets you proceed with filing while flagging which items might need to be amended later. Might be worth switching if you're not too far along in TurboTax.
Thanks for the tip about H&R Block! I haven't gotten too far in TurboTax yet so switching wouldn't be a big deal. I'm just so annoyed that these partnerships can just decide not to provide necessary tax forms until after the filing deadline and somehow that's completely legal. Seems like the IRS should hold THEM accountable rather than making all of us jump through hoops.
PrinceJoe
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that even if you technically structure everything legally, the IRS has tools like the "economic substance doctrine" that allows them to disregard transactions that don't have a legitimate business purpose beyond tax avoidance. If your Cayman corporation doesn't have real economic substance (office, employees, legitimate business operations), and is just a shell for your personal trading activity while you're physically in NY, that's a huge red flag. The courts have consistently upheld the IRS's ability to "look through" these arrangements. Also, the reporting requirements for foreign accounts (FBAR) and foreign corporations (Form 5471) are no joke. Penalties for non-compliance start at $10,000 and go up dramatically from there. Criminal penalties are possible in cases of willful evasion.
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Anita George
โขDo you know if establishing proper "economic substance" requires a physical presence in the Cayman Islands? Or would hiring local directors and maintaining an actual office there be sufficient?
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PrinceJoe
โขProper economic substance typically requires more than just a local address and hired directors. The Cayman Islands themselves have economic substance requirements that include things like adequate physical presence, locally-managed bank accounts, local employees, and appropriate local expenditure relative to the level of activity. The key issue in your specific case though is that if you're physically sitting in New York making the trading decisions and executing trades, it's going to be very difficult to argue that the economic activity isn't occurring in the US. The IRS looks at where the value-creating activity is actually happening, not just where the paperwork says it's happening.
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Brooklyn Knight
Has anyone actually looked into the tax treaty between the US and Cayman Islands? I thought there wasn't one, which means you'd still have reporting requirements even with a legitimate setup. Theres also FATCA to worry about if ur accounts go over $50k.
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Owen Devar
โขYou're right - there is no tax treaty between the US and Cayman Islands, which actually makes things more complicated. Without a treaty, there are fewer protections against double taxation and fewer clearly defined rules. Also, as a US-based trader (even temporarily), FATCA reporting kicks in at $50K for foreign accounts, and the OP mentioned potentially making $135K+ which would definitely trigger those thresholds.
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