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The "as of" date is basically when the IRS system last processed or will next process updates to your account - it's not a refund date! Mine showed weird future dates too and I was panicking thinking I had to wait forever. Then I found this AI tool called taxr.ai that actually reads your whole transcript and explains what everything means, including timeline predictions. Cost me $1 but saved hours of stress and confusion. Way better than trying to decode all those cryptic IRS codes myself!
Has anyone ever done this through TurboTax? I have a similar issue but from 2023 and I'm wondering if I can just fix it when I file my taxes this year.
For a 2023 excess contribution, you're actually still within the timeframe to fix it without penalties! You have until your tax filing deadline (including extensions) to remove excess contributions from the previous year. So for 2023 contributions, you have until April 15, 2025 (or October 15, 2025 if you file an extension).
I had almost the exact same situation with a 2019 HSA excess contribution that I didn't catch until 2022. The key is being persistent with your HSA provider - don't accept "we can't do that" as an answer. Here's what worked for me: I called Optum (same provider as you) and specifically asked for their "Tax Compliance Department" rather than regular customer service. The regular reps often don't understand the rules for correcting prior-year excess contributions. When I got through to tax compliance, they knew exactly what I was talking about and processed my excess contribution removal within a week. You'll need to specify on the form that this is for tax year 2020, and make sure you request the withdrawal of just the excess amount ($800 in your case) - don't include any earnings on that amount unless you want to pay taxes on those earnings. The good news is you won't need to amend any prior returns, and you'll stop paying that 6% penalty going forward. One tip: if they still give you pushback, mention IRS Revenue Ruling 2004-41 which specifically addresses corrections of excess HSA contributions from prior years. That usually gets their attention!
Don't forget you can also spread the income from a qualified disaster distribution over 3 years! So if you qualify for the disaster exception, you could include just 1/3 of the distribution in your income this year, and the rest in the next two years. Helps with the tax hit.
Is that still available? I thought that was only for COVID-related distributions and expired after 2020?
The 3-year income spreading option is still available for qualified disaster distributions, not just COVID-related ones! This applies to distributions from retirement plans due to federally declared disasters. You can elect to include the distribution in income ratably over the 3-year period beginning with the year of distribution. To do this, you'll need to file Form 8915-F (Qualified Disaster Retirement Plan Distributions and Repayments) along with your return. This form lets you specify how much of the distribution to include in each year's income. Since you withdrew $13,500, you could potentially include $4,500 in income each year for three years instead of taking the full tax hit this year. Just make sure your hurricane situation qualifies as a federally declared disaster in your area before electing this option. The IRS has specific requirements about timing and geographic areas that qualify.
This is really helpful information about Form 8915-F! I had no idea you could spread the income over three years for disaster distributions. That would definitely help with the tax burden. Do you know if there's a deadline for making this election, or can you choose to do it when you file your return? Also, if you elect the 3-year spreading, does that affect the penalty exception at all, or are those two separate things?
Has anyone actually gotten an IRS penalty for HSA over-contributions before? I'm wondering how strict they are about this stuff. I think I might have over-contributed last year but never fixed it and haven't heard anything.
Yes, I got hit with the 6% excise tax for an HSA excess contribution I didn't correct. It wasn't a huge amount (around $75 penalty for my $1,250 over-contribution), but the annoying part was filling out Form 5329. The IRS does check this, especially if your W-2 and HSA provider both report contribution amounts that exceed the limits.
I went through something very similar last year! You're absolutely right that you can still contribute that $150 to get back to your maximum allowable contribution for 2024. As others mentioned, you have until April 15th, 2025 to make 2024 HSA contributions. One thing I'd add is to keep really good records of all these transactions. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking: original contributions, the excess amount, withdrawal date and amount, and then the corrective contribution. This made tax filing much easier and gave me peace of mind if the IRS ever had questions. Also, don't stress too much about the "return of excess contributions" form you already filed - that was correct for the portion that was actually excess. The additional $150 you're putting back in is just you using up your remaining contribution room for 2024, which is totally separate and allowed. Just make sure when you contribute that $150 with Fidelity, you explicitly designate it as a 2024 contribution in their system. Their interface makes this pretty clear during the contribution process.
This is really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I'm actually dealing with a similar HSA situation right now and hadn't thought about creating a spreadsheet to track everything. Do you have any specific columns or categories you'd recommend including beyond what you mentioned? I want to make sure I document everything properly in case there are questions later.
Mateo Perez
One thing no one has mentioned yet - you might need different documentation depending on if the vendor is in your state or out-of-state. Some states have specific multi-state forms for this purpose. Also, if you're buying from another country, the rules are completely different.
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Aisha Rahman
ā¢This is so true! I'm in Washington state and buy components from Oregon (no sales tax there) and California, and each required different paperwork. The multi-state tax exemption form saved me a lot of headaches.
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GalacticGladiator
ā¢Thanks for bringing this up! The card manufacturer is actually in a different state than us, so I'm guessing we'll need to look into that multi-state form. Sometimes these little details make such a big difference.
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Lena Schultz
Great question! As someone who's been through this exact situation with my small manufacturing business, you definitely qualify for sales tax exemption on those card purchases. Since the cards become an integral component of your finished game boards (which you charge sales tax on), this falls under the "sale for resale" category. You'll want to apply for a resale certificate from your state's department of revenue. Once you have it, provide a copy to the card manufacturer and they should stop charging you sales tax on future orders. This can add up to significant savings over time, especially as your business grows. Just make sure to keep detailed records showing how those cards are incorporated into your final products - this documentation will be important if you ever get audited. Also verify the specific requirements for out-of-state purchases if your manufacturer is in a different state than your business.
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