What are the allowable investment expense deductions available for my 2025 taxes?
Hey everyone, I'm trying to figure out what investment expenses I can actually deduct on my upcoming tax return. I've got a mix of stocks, some ETFs, and a few managed accounts. Last year I paid around $3,200 in various fees (account maintenance, trading fees, investment advisory services), but I'm totally confused about what's actually deductible since the tax law changes. My financial advisor mentioned something about investment expenses being eliminated as itemized deductions, but then said some expenses might still be deductible "above the line" or something? I'm not sure if I should be tracking these expenses or if it's all pointless now. Has anyone dealt with this recently and know what investment expenses are still allowable as deductions? Really appreciate any help!
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Sean Doyle
The rules around investment expense deductions changed significantly with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Unfortunately, most investment expenses that were previously deductible as miscellaneous itemized deductions (subject to the 2% AGI floor) are no longer deductible for tax years 2018 through 2025. However, there are still some investment-related expenses you can deduct: 1. Interest on money borrowed to purchase taxable investments (investment interest expense) is still deductible as an itemized deduction, limited to your net investment income. 2. Certain expenses related to rental properties or royalty income remain deductible on Schedule E. 3. If you're self-employed and manage your own investments as part of your business, some expenses might be deductible as business expenses. 4. Qualified retirement account fees paid directly from the account (not out of pocket) effectively reduce taxable income when you withdraw. While you can't directly deduct those advisory and account fees anymore, they can still be added to your cost basis for investments in some cases, which reduces your capital gains when you sell.
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Zara Rashid
•Thanks for this info! I'm still confused tho - what about tax prep fees specifically for investment-related tax advice? Like if my CPA charges me extra to handle my investment reporting stuff? Is that still deductible somewhere?
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Sean Doyle
•Tax preparation fees, including those for investment-related tax advice, are unfortunately also no longer deductible as miscellaneous itemized deductions for individual taxpayers through 2025. However, if you're self-employed, you can still deduct the portion of tax preparation fees related to your business on Schedule C. Similarly, if you have rental properties, you can deduct the portion of tax prep fees related to those activities on Schedule E. The key is having the CPA separately itemize these business-related charges on their invoice.
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Luca Romano
After struggling with exactly this investment deduction confusion last year, I found an incredibly helpful solution with https://taxr.ai that saved me thousands. I uploaded my investment statements and it automatically identified which expenses could still be allocated to cost basis (which reduces capital gains tax when you sell) vs what couldn't be deducted at all. The platform highlighted that while my advisory fees weren't directly deductible anymore, I could track them for basis adjustment purposes. It also flagged that some of my margin interest was still deductible as investment interest expense, which I had completely missed. The analysis even identified that some expenses related to my rental property investments should go on Schedule E instead.
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Nia Jackson
•Does it work with all the major brokerages? I use Fidelity and Vanguard and their reports are formatted completely differently.
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NebulaNova
•Sounds interesting but how does it handle situations where the investment is in a partnership? I get K-1s from a couple investments and never know how to handle those expenses properly.
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Luca Romano
•Yes, it works with all major brokerages! I used it with my Schwab accounts, but it recognizes statement formats from Fidelity, Vanguard, TD Ameritrade, and others. It automatically extracts the relevant data regardless of how they're formatted. For K-1 situations, the system specifically looks at pass-through investment expenses on K-1s and differentiates between those that affect basis versus those that might still be separately deductible. It's particularly helpful with identifying which partnership expenses flow through to Schedule E versus those that are now non-deductible due to the tax law changes.
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NebulaNova
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai that was mentioned earlier - it was seriously helpful! I uploaded my partnership K-1s and brokerage statements and it immediately identified about $4,700 in expenses that could actually be allocated to cost basis. It also flagged $2,300 in deductible investment interest I was completely missing. The system explained exactly which former "miscellaneous itemized deductions" were eliminated but showed me alternatives for some expenses. What really helped was how it separated out which fees could still indirectly help my tax situation through basis adjustments vs. which ones were completely lost causes. The time saved compared to my usual spreadsheet hassle was worth it alone!
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Mateo Hernandez
If you're spending hours on hold trying to get someone at the IRS to clarify investment deduction rules, try https://claimyr.com - it changed my tax nightmare into an actual productive conversation. I was getting different answers from every source about investment expense deductions and needed definitive guidance directly from the IRS. After spending literally 3+ hours on multiple attempts to reach someone, I found Claimyr. They have this system where they wait on hold with the IRS for you, then call you when an actual agent is on the line. You can see a demo of how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I got a clear explanation about what investment expenses are still deductible after the tax law changes, specific to my situation with mutual funds, ETFs and some private placements. The agent walked me through exactly which expenses could still offset investment income directly vs. which ones could only adjust my cost basis.
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Aisha Khan
•How does this actually work though? I thought the IRS phone system was a mess - how do they get through when nobody else can?
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Ethan Taylor
•Sorry but this sounds like BS. No way they have some special access to the IRS that regular people don't. Probably just charging people for information they could get themselves if they waited long enough.
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Mateo Hernandez
•It uses a combination of automated dialing technology and live operators who know the IRS phone tree system extremely well. They basically handle the waiting for you - nothing magical about getting special access, just taking the burden of waiting off your shoulders. They don't provide tax advice themselves - they literally just wait on hold so you don't have to, then connect you directly with the actual IRS agent when one finally answers. You're the one who talks to the IRS, so you're getting official answers directly from the source, not secondhand information.
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Ethan Taylor
I need to eat my words and apologize to the person who recommended Claimyr. I was super skeptical about it actually working (as you could see in my previous comment), but after another failed 2-hour attempt to reach the IRS myself about my investment expense questions, I gave it a shot. It actually worked exactly as described. I got a call back about 90 minutes later with an IRS agent already on the line. The agent confirmed that while my investment advisory fees aren't directly deductible anymore, my margin interest expenses ARE still deductible on Schedule A (subject to net investment income limitation). They also clarified exactly how to handle the fees my financial advisor charges directly to my investment accounts versus the ones I pay separately. Worth every penny just to get a definitive answer instead of conflicting advice from random internet sources!
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Yuki Ito
Guys, I found something interesting in IRS Publication 550. Even though most investment expenses aren't deductible as itemized deductions anymore, some specialized cases might still work: If you have a valid home office deduction (for an unrelated business), the portion of your internet and computer costs used for investment research and management could potentially be deductible through your home office. Also, if you're a professional trader who qualifies for "trader tax status" (very specific requirements), you might be able to deduct some investment expenses as business expenses. Don't forget that some investment expenses are actually built into mutual fund expenses and effectively reduce your taxable distributions already, so they're indirectly "deducted" that way.
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Carmen Lopez
•Isn't the trader tax status super hard to qualify for? I thought you needed like hundreds of trades daily and treat it like a full time job?
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Yuki Ito
•Yes, trader tax status is definitely difficult to qualify for. The IRS looks at factors like frequency of trading activity (typically hundreds of trades per year, not necessarily daily), holding periods (usually very short-term), time and effort devoted (typically treating it like a full-time job), and intention to make a living from trading rather than long-term appreciation. Most casual investors or even active investors won't qualify. There's no specific number of trades required, but courts have generally upheld that you need substantial, regular, and continuous trading activity. It's really designed for people who are effectively running a trading business, not for regular investors who make trades frequently.
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AstroAdventurer
Has anyone considered switching to ETFs instead of actively managed accounts to avoid some of these non-deductible fees? I was paying about 1.2% in management fees that are no longer deductible, but switched most holdings to similar ETFs with expense ratios around 0.15%. Since fund expense ratios effectively reduce your taxable distributions already, it seems like a workaround to the loss of the investment expense deduction. My accountant said this is actually more tax efficient now than before since those 1.2% fees were only partially deductible even pre-tax reform (due to the 2% AGI floor).
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Andre Dupont
•That's actually really smart. I did something similar last year when I realized my financial advisor's 1% fee wasn't deductible anymore. Moved everything to a robo-advisor that charges 0.25% and some vanguard ETFs. Saving almost $3k a year and probably getting similar returns!
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AstroAdventurer
•Thanks! Another advantage I didn't mention is that some ETFs are also more tax-efficient in general due to how they handle capital gains distributions. Many actively managed mutual funds distribute capital gains throughout the year that you have to pay taxes on even if you reinvest them. With ETFs, you generally only realize capital gains when you choose to sell, giving you more control over your tax timing. This became even more important to me after losing the ability to deduct those management fees. The combined effect has definitely improved my after-tax returns.
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Zoe Papanikolaou
Important note: if you're paying fees directly from your IRA or other retirement accounts, there's a silver lining. While you can't deduct those fees anymore, having them paid from within the account is actually better in many cases! When fees are paid from inside your retirement account, it's effectively using pre-tax money to pay them (for traditional IRAs/401ks). If you paid those same fees from a separate account, you'd be using post-tax dollars. My accountant calculated that for my situation, this internal fee payment structure saves me about 24% (my marginal tax rate) on all account management fees compared to paying them separately and not being able to deduct them.
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Jamal Wilson
•Wait really? I've been paying my IRA management fees separately from my checking account because I thought that was better - preserving the tax-advantaged space. Should I switch to having them taken from within the IRA?
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Emma Olsen
•For traditional IRAs/401(k)s, yes - having fees paid from within the account is generally more advantageous now. You're essentially using pre-tax dollars to pay those fees instead of after-tax dollars from your checking account. However, for Roth IRAs it's actually the opposite! Since Roth contributions are made with after-tax money and grow tax-free, you want to preserve that tax-free growth space. With Roth accounts, it's better to pay fees from outside the account if possible. Also keep in mind that some custodians charge differently for internal vs external fee payment, so factor that into your calculation. But in most cases with traditional retirement accounts, internal fee payment is the way to go now that we can't deduct them separately.
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Samantha Hall
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the impact on cryptocurrency investments. If you're paying fees to crypto exchanges or using crypto tax software, those expenses also fall under the same rules - generally not deductible anymore as miscellaneous itemized deductions. However, if you're mining crypto or treating it as a business activity (not just investing), some of those expenses might still be deductible as business expenses on Schedule C. The key is proving it's a legitimate business activity rather than just investment. Also, for those with complex portfolios, don't forget about the net investment income tax (NIIT) - the 3.8% surtax on investment income for higher earners. While you can't deduct most investment expenses anymore, you can still offset investment income with investment losses to reduce your NIIT exposure. It's not the same as getting a deduction, but it's something to consider when rebalancing your portfolio for tax efficiency.
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Mateo Sanchez
•Great point about crypto! I've been treating my crypto trading as just investments, but I wonder if there's a threshold where it could qualify as business activity? Like if you're doing DeFi yield farming or providing liquidity to exchanges regularly, would that potentially qualify for business expense treatment? I've been paying substantial gas fees and platform fees that add up quickly, especially on Ethereum-based transactions. Also curious if anyone knows how the IRS views expenses for crypto tax software like CoinTracker or TaxBit - are those completely non-deductible now too?
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Luca Esposito
•@38aea798b1d3 The threshold for crypto business activity is similar to the trader tax status mentioned earlier - it's based on frequency, regularity, and intent rather than specific dollar amounts. DeFi activities like yield farming, liquidity provision, or running validator nodes could potentially qualify as business activities if done systematically and regularly with profit intent. The IRS looks at factors like: time devoted to the activity, having separate records/accounts, treating it like a business operation, and whether you're providing services (like liquidity) rather than just holding investments. Gas fees and platform fees for legitimate business crypto activities could be deductible on Schedule C. For crypto tax software like CoinTracker or TaxBit, those are unfortunately in the same boat as other investment-related tax prep expenses - not deductible for individual investors. However, if you qualify for business treatment of your crypto activities, the portion of software costs related to business crypto transactions could be deductible as business expenses. Keep detailed records if you think you might qualify - the IRS scrutinizes crypto business claims heavily, so documentation is crucial.
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Dananyl Lear
Building on the crypto discussion, I want to highlight something that caught me off guard during my 2024 tax prep - wash sale rules now apply to crypto too! This became really relevant when trying to optimize what few investment-related tax benefits we still have. If you're harvesting crypto losses to offset gains (since we can't deduct most investment expenses anymore), you need to be careful about repurchasing the same or "substantially identical" cryptocurrency within 30 days. While the IRS hasn't clearly defined what constitutes "substantially identical" for crypto, many tax professionals are advising caution. I learned this the hard way when I sold Bitcoin at a loss in December and bought it back 2 weeks later thinking I was being smart about tax loss harvesting. My CPA flagged it as a potential wash sale, which would defer the loss deduction. Since we've lost most other investment expense deductions, tax loss harvesting has become even more critical for managing investment tax liability. Just wanted to share this heads up since crypto wash sales seem to be flying under the radar for many people, and it can really impact your overall investment tax strategy when combined with the new limitations on deductible expenses.
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