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Connor Murphy

Is this bitcoin trading fee a deductible expense on my taxes?

I'm trying to figure out if I can deduct the transaction fees from my bitcoin trading this year. I've gone through Publication 529 like three times now and honestly I'm still confused whether these types of fees fall under allowed or disallowed expenses. The situation is I paid about $1,275 in various fees when selling some bitcoin throughout the year. From what I understand, these fees should offset the capital gains I'm reporting from the sales, but I'm not 100% sure if I'm supposed to list them as a separate deduction or just subtract them from my gains before reporting. Publication 529 doesn't specifically mention crypto trading fees that I could find. Does anyone know if these count as investment expenses or something else entirely? Thanks for any help sorting this out before I file!

Yara Nassar

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Bitcoin trading fees aren't a separate deduction, but they do adjust your cost basis. When you sell crypto, the fees you paid can be added to your cost basis (what you paid to acquire the Bitcoin) or subtracted from your proceeds (what you received from selling), which effectively reduces your capital gain. For example, if you bought Bitcoin for $10,000 and paid a $100 fee, your actual cost basis would be $10,100. When you sell, if you get $15,000 but pay a $150 fee, your net proceeds are $14,850. So your gain would be $14,850 - $10,100 = $4,750 instead of $5,000. This isn't technically a "deduction" like on Schedule A, but rather an adjustment to your capital gain calculation on Schedule D and Form 8949. Make sure you keep good records of all these fees!

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StarGazer101

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So just to clarify - if I'm using tax software, should I be entering these fees somewhere specific or just manually adjusting the purchase/sale prices to include the fees? And does this apply to all crypto trading platforms or just certain ones?

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Yara Nassar

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When using tax software, you'll typically have fields for "cost or basis" and "proceeds" when entering your crypto transactions. You should include the purchase fee in your cost basis (add it to purchase price) and subtract the selling fee from your proceeds. This applies to all crypto trading platforms - doesn't matter which exchange you use. The IRS treats crypto as property, so the same capital gains rules apply regardless of platform. Just make sure you have documentation of all fees in case of an audit.

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Paolo Romano

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Does this work if you've traded on multiple platforms? I've got stuff spread across Coinbase, Binance, and a couple others and it's a nightmare trying to reconcile everything.

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Amina Diop

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I'm skeptical about these tax tools for crypto. How do you know it's calculating everything correctly? The last thing I want is to get audited because some software messed up my crypto taxes.

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Paolo Romano

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Javier Torres

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One thing nobody mentioned - if you're mining bitcoin rather than just trading it, the rules are completely different. Mining expenses can often be deducted as business expenses if you're treating your mining as a business. But trading fees are definitely just adjustments to your basis, not separate deductions.

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Connor Murphy

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I'm just trading, not mining, so sounds like I need to add these fees to my cost basis. Any idea if these rules apply the same way for DeFi activities like staking or liquidity providing? I did a little bit of that too.

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Javier Torres

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For DeFi activities like staking and liquidity providing, things get more complex. Staking rewards are generally treated as ordinary income at the fair market value when received. For liquidity providing, you're essentially creating a new position when you add to a liquidity pool. The fees you earn from the pool are likely ordinary income, but impermanent loss calculations can affect your gain/loss. This is definitely one of the gray areas where having documentation of your position is crucial. The IRS hasn't provided specific guidance on many DeFi activities yet, so using conservative accounting approaches is your safest bet.

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Emma Wilson

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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting crypto with all these fee adjustments? Their crypto section confused me last year.

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QuantumLeap

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TurboTax is terrible for crypto. I tried using it last year and ended up switching to CoinTracker which integrates with TurboTax. The basic TurboTax interface doesn't have good options for adjusting basis with fees.

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Lucas Parker

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I had the exact same confusion about bitcoin trading fees last year! After going through this myself, I can confirm what others have said - these fees definitely adjust your capital gains but aren't separate deductions. What really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything. For each bitcoin sale, I had columns for: original purchase price, purchase fees, sale price, sale fees, and adjusted gain/loss. The formula was basically: (Sale Price - Sale Fees) - (Purchase Price + Purchase Fees) = Actual Gain/Loss. So for your $1,275 in fees, make sure you're adding purchase fees to your cost basis and subtracting sale fees from your proceeds before calculating gains. This will naturally reduce your taxable gains without needing to claim them as a separate deduction anywhere. Keep all your exchange statements showing these fees - the IRS loves documentation for crypto transactions. Good luck with your filing!

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Layla Mendes

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This spreadsheet approach sounds really helpful! I'm definitely going to set something like this up. Quick question - when you say "purchase fees," are you including things like network fees for transferring bitcoin between wallets, or just the trading fees from buying/selling on exchanges? I've got both types of fees and wasn't sure if they're treated the same way.

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