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Anastasia Sokolov

What are my chances of being audited for a small online business with 4 years of losses?

I've had a small online boutique selling handmade jewelry from 2021-2024 and reported losses all four years. My biggest year I only made about $42k in gross sales, but after expenses, I never turned a profit. I finally decided to call it quits at the beginning of 2024 and reported on TurboTax that I disposed of my business this year. I'm worried because I know the IRS has that 3 out of 5 year rule about claiming business losses, and I've now hit 4 years straight of losses. Since I've officially closed the business in this final year, does that change anything regarding audit risk? Or am I pretty much guaranteed to get flagged? I'm super anxious about this because even though my business was tiny, I don't want to deal with an audit. Does the small size of my operation affect my chances of being audited?

Sean O'Connor

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The 3-out-of-5 year profit test is indeed one factor the IRS considers, but it's not an automatic audit trigger. It's actually part of what's called the "hobby loss rules" where the IRS determines if your activity is a legitimate business or just a hobby. Having four consecutive loss years isn't ideal, but there are multiple factors the IRS considers beyond just profitability. They look at whether you conducted the activity in a businesslike manner, your expertise, time and effort invested, assets that may appreciate, your success in similar activities, history of income/losses, occasional profits, and your financial status. Documentation of your genuine intent to make a profit is crucial.

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Zara Ahmed

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But doesn't the fact that they closed down the business show the IRS that it was actually a real business attempt that just didn't work out? Also, does the small amount of revenue ($42k) make it less likely to be audited since bigger fish to fry and all that?

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Sean O'Connor

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Closing down an unprofitable business can actually support your case that it was a legitimate business venture and not just a hobby. It shows you were rational about the economic reality when the business wasn't succeeding, which is businesslike behavior. The relatively small revenue amount may reduce your audit risk somewhat. The IRS does allocate more resources to higher-revenue audits with better return on their time investment. However, small businesses still get audited, especially when certain patterns appear. Your best protection is thorough documentation of your business intent and operations - keep all records showing marketing efforts, business plans, separate business accounts, and attempts to reduce expenses or increase revenue.

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Yuki Tanaka

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The actual stats on audit rates might make you feel better. For small Schedule C filers (under $100k), the audit rate is around 0.9%. Even with multiple years of losses, unless you have other major red flags, your chances remain relatively low. Make sure you can document that your expenses were legitimate business costs, not personal expenses, and you should be okay.

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Thanks for sharing those stats - that does make me feel better. Just curious, where did you find those numbers? And what would be considered other "major red flags" besides the consecutive losses?

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Yuki Tanaka

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I got those stats from the IRS Data Book which they publish annually. The latest numbers show small business audits have been declining due to IRS budget constraints, though that may change with recent funding increases. Major red flags beyond consecutive losses include unusually large deductions compared to income (especially home office, vehicle, travel, meals), round numbers that suggest estimation rather than actual record-keeping, substantial cash-based income, and claiming 100% business use for vehicles. Also, mathematical errors or inconsistencies between forms can trigger automated reviews that sometimes escalate to audits.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Has anyone here actually been audited for a small business with losses? I'd love to hear a firsthand experience about what happened and how it went.

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MidnightRider

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I was audited back in 2023 for my crafting business that had losses for 4 years. It was a correspondence audit (mail only). They asked for receipts for all my expenses and evidence it was a real business (website screenshots, business cards, show applications). It was stressful but I had good records and they accepted everything. Whole process took about 5 months.

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