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Dylan Cooper

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Has anyone successfully e-filed with a Form 3115 attachment using TurboTax? I'm getting conflicting info about whether it's possible or if you have to paper file the entire return when using Form 3115.

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Sofia Ramirez

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With TurboTax, you can still e-file your return, but you need to mail in Form 8453 along with a copy of Form 3115 and the supporting statement. The 8453 basically tells the IRS "hey, I e-filed but here are the paper forms that couldn't be transmitted electronically." You still need to separately mail the original Form 3115 to the Covington address.

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Ravi Malhotra

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I went through a similar Form 3115 situation last year for incorrect depreciation on my rental property, and I can confirm you're handling it correctly! The key things that tripped me up initially were the timing and making sure all the pieces fit together properly. Your approach of adding the overclaimed depreciation as miscellaneous expenses is spot on - that's your Section 481(a) adjustment. And yes, overriding TurboTax's depreciation calculation is necessary since you need to use the correct basis going forward. One thing to double-check: make sure your Form 3115 statement clearly shows the calculation of how you arrived at the adjustment amount. The IRS wants to see the math - like original purchase price vs. what was used for depreciation, years affected, and the total overclaimed amount. The $65 refund reduction sounds reasonable for a depreciation correction. That's essentially the tax impact of "catching up" the excess depreciation you claimed in previous years. For the filing process, you're correct about mailing Form 8453 and the 3115 copy with your e-filed return, plus sending the original 3115 to Covington. Just make sure to send the Covington copy no later than when you e-file - I sent mine certified mail the same day I e-filed for peace of mind. The good news is once this is filed, your depreciation will be on the right track going forward. It's always better to correct these things proactively rather than having the IRS catch it later!

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who's been through the same process! I'm a bit nervous about filing Form 3115 for the first time, but your experience gives me confidence. Quick question - when you sent the original to Covington via certified mail, did you get any kind of acknowledgment back from the IRS that they received it? I'm wondering if there's a way to track that it actually made it to the right place, or if you just have to trust that the certified mail receipt is enough proof. Also, did you have any issues with TurboTax accepting your depreciation overrides? I'm worried the software might flag it as an error or something.

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Madeline Blaze

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@2ff2c9d98ae1 Great question about the acknowledgment! The IRS doesn't automatically send back a receipt when they receive your Form 3115 at the Covington address. The certified mail receipt is your proof of delivery. However, if you're really concerned about confirmation, you could use the IRS's Form 3115 status inquiry process a few months after filing, though honestly most people just rely on the certified mail tracking. For TurboTax depreciation overrides, the software will usually accept them without major issues, but it might show a warning message asking if you're sure about the amounts. Just make sure to document why you're overriding (like "Form 3115 depreciation correction") in any notes fields. The key is that your override should result in the correct accumulated depreciation through 2022 minus the overclaimed amount, so the 2023 depreciation starts from the right baseline. One tip: keep really detailed records of all your calculations and copies of everything you mail. If the IRS has questions later, having that paper trail makes everything much smoother!

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I just want to echo what everyone else is saying - your parents' concerns are totally normal, but they're worrying unnecessarily! I'm a tax professional and see this confusion all the time. The simplest way I explain it to clients is this: Think of gift tax like a credit card with a $13+ million limit. The annual exclusion ($18k per person in 2024) is like paying with cash - no tracking needed. Anything above that is like putting it on the "credit card" (lifetime exemption) - you need to report it with Form 709, but you don't actually "pay the bill" (owe gift tax) until you max out that enormous credit limit. For your $200k situation: Your parents could give $72k total with zero paperwork ($18k from each parent to both you and your spouse). The remaining $128k would just need to be reported on Form 709 - no tax owed. One thing that might help convince them: have them look up their state's gift tax rules too. Most states (including the big ones like California, Texas, Florida) don't even have their own gift taxes, so this is purely a federal issue with those generous federal exemptions. The bottom line: unless your parents are secretly millionaires planning to give away over $27 million as a couple during their lifetimes, they'll never pay gift tax on helping with your house!

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Ev Luca

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This credit card analogy is perfect! As someone who just went through this process myself, I can confirm everything you're saying. My parents were in the exact same boat - super worried about gift taxes when they helped us with our down payment. What really helped was when I showed them the actual numbers. Even if they give away $200k this year, they'd still have over $13.4 million left in their lifetime exemption. When you put it that way, it really shows how this is designed for much wealthier people than most of us will ever be! The Form 709 filing ended up being straightforward too. Our tax preparer said it's becoming more and more common as housing prices have gone up and parents are helping with larger down payments. The whole "gift tax crisis" my parents were imagining just never materialized. @Benjamin Johnson - do you find that most of your clients are surprised by how generous the lifetime exemption actually is? It seems like there s'so much misinformation out there about gift taxes.

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Charity Cohan

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now! My parents want to help with a $185k down payment but they've been reading scary articles online about gift taxes and are convinced they'll owe thousands in penalties. What's been most helpful in our discussions is pointing out that the IRS designed these rules specifically to handle wealthy families transferring millions - not middle-class parents helping their kids buy homes. The $13.61 million lifetime exemption is intentionally huge because it's meant to catch people with serious wealth, not parents contributing to down payments. I've been trying to find simple ways to explain this to them, and honestly the analogies people have shared here (like the credit card example) are so much clearer than anything I found in official IRS publications. Sometimes you need to translate the tax code into everyday language! One thing that helped move the needle with my parents was showing them that even if they give us the full amount this year AND decide to help my sister with her house next year, they'd still only use up maybe 3% of their lifetime exemption. When they realized how much cushion they actually have, it made the whole thing feel much less risky. Has anyone found success with specific IRS resources that are particularly parent-friendly? I'm still working on convincing mine, and having some official documentation that's written in plain English would be really helpful.

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Ben Cooper

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Anyone know how the amortization works for the amounts above $5,000? My startup costs were about $8,200 and organizational were about $2,800. I understand I can deduct $5k of startup costs immediately, but how do I handle amortizing the remaining $3,200?

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Harold Oh

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For your situation, you'd deduct the full $5,000 of your startup costs immediately on your Schedule C. The remaining $3,200 would be amortized over 180 months (15 years), which means you can deduct about $213 per year for the next 15 years ($3,200 รท 180 ร— 12 months for a full year). For your organizational costs, since the total is under $5,000 (at $2,800), you can deduct the entire amount in the first year. Make sure you attach an election statement to your return stating you're electing to amortize startup costs under Section 195 and deduct organizational costs under Section 709 (assuming you're filing as a partnership) or Section 248 (if filing as a corporation).

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Connor O'Reilly

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with my new single-member LLC and had been stressing about these deductions. One thing I want to add - make sure you keep really detailed records of what you spent and when. I created a spreadsheet categorizing each expense as either startup or organizational from day one, which made tax prep so much easier. Also, for anyone wondering about timing - the IRS considers your business to have "begun" when you start offering goods/services to customers, not when you filed your LLC paperwork. So expenses before that date are typically startup/organizational, while expenses after are regular business deductions. This distinction was crucial for me since I had some overlap expenses right around my launch date. The election statement requirement that @Manny mentioned is super important - I almost forgot to include it and caught it at the last minute. Better to be safe than sorry with the IRS!

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Benjamin Carter

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Great point about the timing distinction! I'm just getting started with my LLC formation and hadn't thought about when exactly the "business began" for tax purposes. When you say "offering goods/services to customers" - does that mean the first sale, or just when you're ready to accept customers? I've set up my website and marketing but haven't made my first sale yet. Want to make sure I'm categorizing my recent expenses correctly between startup costs and regular business expenses.

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Keisha Thompson

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mine came through last week! took 97 days total. check your transcripts daily, thats how i knew it was coming

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Dmitri Volkov

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gives me hope!! what cycle code were u?

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Haley Bennett

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I was cycle 20241505 - they processed it right after the 846 code showed up on my transcript. @Dmitri keep checking yours, things can move fast once they start processing!

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Luca Esposito

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Been through this exact same situation last year. Got the 60-day letter in March, didn't see my refund until mid-July (about 110 days total). The waiting is brutal but most people do eventually get their money. The key is staying on top of your transcript - once you see the 846 code appear, your refund usually hits within a week. Don't give up hope!

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Omar Mahmoud

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Thanks for sharing your experience! 110 days is rough but good to know there's light at the end of the tunnel. I'm on day 73 now so hopefully getting closer. Did you do anything specific to speed it up or just had to wait it out?

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Lily Young

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Has anyone used the IRS online payment system when filing Form 8832? There's a user fee for late elections if you request a private letter ruling, but the IRS website is so confusing about how to actually pay it.

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I had to do this for a late election relief request. You need to use the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS) at eftps.gov - but it takes like 5-7 business days to get enrolled if you haven't used it before. Plan ahead! The user fee was $6,500 for our ruling request which was painful but worth it to fix our classification mess.

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I went through this exact same situation with my LLC about 6 months ago! At $85,000 projected income, you'll definitely want to run the numbers carefully before electing corporate treatment. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet comparing the tax scenarios. As a single-member LLC (assuming that's your situation), you'd pay self-employment tax on the full $85K under default treatment. But with corporate election, you'd face potential double taxation if you take distributions. The sweet spot for corporate treatment is usually when you can justify a reasonable salary (subject to payroll taxes) that's lower than your total profit, leaving the remainder as retained earnings taxed at corporate rates. But at $85K, this might not provide much benefit. Also, don't forget about state considerations - some states have minimum franchise taxes for corporations that could eat into any federal tax savings. I'd strongly recommend running the actual numbers with a tax pro before making the election, especially since you can't easily reverse it once made. The 75-day window Keith mentioned is crucial - mark your calendar! And if you do elect corporate treatment, make sure you're prepared for the additional compliance requirements like corporate tax returns and payroll processing.

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Jamal Anderson

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation with a new LLC and was leaning toward corporate election, but your point about the $85K income level is making me reconsider. Could you share more details about how you structured that spreadsheet comparison? I'm trying to figure out what salary would be "reasonable" if I did elect corporate treatment - is there a general rule of thumb for that, or does it vary by industry? Also, when you mention state franchise taxes, are we talking about significant amounts that could wipe out federal savings?

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