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Pro tip: Check your transcripts early morning on friday, thats when they usually do the big updates
Based on my experience, it's usually 2-4 business days after your transcript updates for the account balance to hit zero. Once that happens, direct deposit typically takes another 1-3 business days. So you're probably looking at about a week total from transcript update to money in your account. The waiting game is rough but you're almost there!
Has anyone had experience with "recharacterizing" HSA contributions rather than withdrawing them? My accountant mentioned this might be an option if the excess wasn't too much over the limit, but I'm not clear on how it works.
HSA contributions can't be "recharacterized" like IRA contributions can. That's a common misconception. With HSAs, you have to actually remove the excess contribution (plus earnings or minus losses) through a withdrawal process. Your accountant might be confusing HSA rules with IRA rules, where recharacterization is a valid strategy. For HSAs, your only options are to withdraw the excess or carry it forward and pay the penalty as someone mentioned above.
I went through this exact situation last year and want to share what worked for me. The key is understanding that you don't need to calculate losses down to the penny - the IRS allows "reasonable methods" for attributing gains/losses to excess contributions. Here's what I did: I calculated what percentage my excess contribution was of my total HSA balance on the date I made it, then applied that same percentage to the overall account loss. So if my excess was 8% of my total balance and my account dropped $200, I attributed $16 of loss to the excess contribution. My HSA provider (Fidelity) accepted this calculation method without any issues. I submitted their excess contribution removal form with my math clearly documented, and they processed it within a week. Don't overthink this - the important thing is removing the excess before your tax filing deadline to avoid the 6% penalty. Your method of just withdrawing enough to get under the limit would work too, but make sure to request it as a "return of excess contributions" so it's properly documented for tax purposes. One tip: call your HSA provider directly instead of relying on their online help. The phone representatives usually have more experience with these situations and can walk you through their specific process.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm dealing with a similar situation and was getting overwhelmed by all the different calculation methods people were suggesting. Your percentage-based approach sounds much more manageable than trying to track daily market movements. Quick question - when you called Fidelity directly, did you need to have all your documentation ready, or were they able to walk you through what information they needed? I'm with a different provider (HSA Bank) and wondering if I should gather everything first or just call to understand their process. Also, did you end up needing to file any additional forms with your tax return beyond the standard Form 8889, or was it all handled through the excess contribution removal process?
Filed 2/22, got state refund in a week, federal still says "processing" on WMR. Just checked transcripts after reading this post and I also have an 846 for 3/29! Never got any updates or notifications, it just appeared. The IRS website is a joke.
That's pretty much exactly what happened to me! No updates for weeks then suddenly 846. At least we're both getting paid soon!
Congratulations on finally getting your 846 code! I'm currently on week 7 of waiting myself - filed 2/28 and accepted same day but transcripts still showing N/A. Your post gives me hope that movement can happen suddenly even after weeks of nothing. Quick question - when you say your transcripts were "completely empty" until today, do you mean they showed N/A for return transcript or that there was literally nothing there? I'm trying to figure out if my situation is normal delay or if something's actually wrong. The WMR tool has been useless - just the generic "still processing" message for over a month now. Really hoping I see some movement soon like you did! April 1st deposit date sounds amazing right about now š¤
Hey! When I said "completely empty" I meant my return transcript showed N/A - no 2023 info at all, just like yours. My account transcript had my 2022 stuff but nothing for this year. That's totally normal from what I've learned! Week 7 is still within the timeframe unfortunately. I know it's frustrating but try not to stress too much - sounds like your situation is exactly like mine was. The fact that you were accepted same day is a good sign. Sometimes these things just take forever for no apparent reason. Keep checking Friday mornings since that's when most transcripts update. Fingers crossed you see your 846 code soon! š¤
I went through this exact same thing in March! My transcript showed N/A for months, then suddenly appeared with all zeros across every line. I was so confused and stressed thinking something was wrong. But just like everyone else is saying, it really is just a normal phase in the processing. Mine took exactly 12 days from zeros to full amounts appearing, then got my refund 4 days after that. The waiting is absolutely brutal but you're definitely moving through the system now. Check Thursday mornings around 6am - that's when I always saw updates appear. You're so close to the finish line!
Thanks for sharing your timeline! 12 days from zeros to amounts is really helpful to know - gives me a realistic expectation instead of checking constantly. I've been so anxious about this whole process, especially since it's been months of waiting. Really appreciate everyone who's shared their experiences here, it's way more helpful than the generic IRS website info. Will definitely start checking Thursday mornings like you and others suggested!
This is such a relief to read! I've been in the exact same boat - transcript showed N/A forever, then switched to all zeros about 4 days ago. I was starting to panic thinking it meant my return got rejected or something was seriously wrong. Seeing all these similar experiences and timelines really helps calm my nerves. The 570 code explanation makes perfect sense since I also claimed EITC. Going to stop obsessively checking every day and just focus on Thursday mornings like everyone suggests. Thanks for posting this question - sometimes it's so reassuring to know you're not alone in the tax refund purgatory! š
Jamal Anderson
Based on everyone's discussion here, it sounds like your Lexus LX600 definitely qualifies for Section 179 treatment due to its 7,230 lb GVWR, but you'll be subject to the luxury SUV cap of around $30,400 for 2025. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also consider your total business income when planning this deduction. Section 179 can't exceed your business's taxable income for the year - so if your business only made $20,000 in profit, you can only deduct up to $20,000 even though the SUV limit is higher. Any unused portion can be carried forward to future years though. Also, since you mentioned your accountant wasn't 100% sure about the specifics, you might want to consider getting a second opinion or using one of the services others have mentioned here. Vehicle deductions can be complex, especially for luxury SUVs, and getting it wrong can be expensive if you're audited. The peace of mind is worth it when you're dealing with a high-value vehicle like the LX600.
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Mei Zhang
ā¢This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to find! The point about business income limitations is crucial - I hadn't even considered that my Section 179 deduction can't exceed my business's taxable income. That's definitely something I need to discuss with my accountant when we're planning the timing of this deduction. You're absolutely right about getting a second opinion. Given that this is a significant investment and the rules seem pretty nuanced, I think I'll try one of the services mentioned earlier to double-check everything before filing. Better to spend a little extra on professional guidance than risk issues with the IRS later, especially with a luxury vehicle that might draw more scrutiny. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion - it's been incredibly helpful in understanding both the opportunities and limitations with the LX600!
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Yuki Sato
I just want to add one more important consideration that hasn't been fully addressed - the timing of when you actually start using the LX600 for business matters a lot for tax planning. Since we're getting close to year-end, make sure you have a clear business purpose and documentation for when you first put it into service. Also, don't forget about state tax implications. Some states have different rules for vehicle deductions or may not conform to federal Section 179 treatment. I learned this the hard way when I took a large federal deduction but my state (California) had different limitations that created a big state tax bill I wasn't expecting. Finally, consider whether taking the full $30,400 deduction this year makes sense for your overall tax situation, or if spreading it out might be more beneficial. Sometimes it's worth running the numbers both ways, especially if you're already in a high tax bracket or expecting income changes in future years.
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Harper Collins
ā¢These are excellent points about state tax implications! I'm also dealing with this in California and hadn't realized they might not follow federal Section 179 rules. Do you know if there's a good resource to check state-by-state differences for vehicle deductions? I want to make sure I'm not creating any unexpected state tax issues when I claim the federal deduction for my business SUV. The timing advice is also really valuable - I've been so focused on the federal rules that I forgot to think about the broader tax planning strategy. It might make more sense to spread out the deduction if it pushes me into a higher bracket this year.
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