W2 Income + Side Gig: Understanding Tax Breakdown and Self-Employment Taxes

You've got the basic idea right, but let me clear up a few points for you! When you earn more than $400 in self-employment income, you do need to pay self-employment tax on that portion. The self-employment tax is actually 15.3% (not 15.8%) and covers both the employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes. In your example with $130k W2 and $65k side income: - Your W2 income has Social Security and Medicare already withheld by your employer - Your $65k side income is subject to self-employment tax PLUS regular income tax - The self-employment tax ONLY applies to the side income, not your W2 earnings The good news is you can deduct half of your self-employment tax on your 1040, which helps offset some of the additional tax burden. Plus, you can take business deductions against that side income before calculating self-employment tax. Your understanding of the final taxable income calculation is correct - both income sources (minus appropriate deductions) combine to determine your federal tax bracket.

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Don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments! This was a painful lesson for me when I started making decent side income. If your W2 withholding doesn't cover the additional tax from your side gig, you might need to make quarterly payments to avoid underpayment penalties. Form 1040-ES is what you'll need. I got hit with penalties my first year because I just assumed I could settle up at tax time. Now I just set aside about 30% of my side income and make the quarterly payments to stay safe.

Something nobody mentioned yet - look into the Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A). Depending on your total income and the nature of your side gig, you might qualify for up to a 20% deduction on your net self-employment income. Its a bit complicated but worth checking out! For example, if your qualified business income is $65k after expenses, you could potentially deduct another $13k! There are income phaseouts though, so check if your total income puts you over the limits.

Great breakdown everyone! As someone who just went through this exact situation, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help Brandon and others: 1. **Keep meticulous records** - I use a separate business checking account for all side gig income and expenses. Makes tracking so much easier at tax time. 2. **Business vs hobby distinction** - The IRS looks at whether you're trying to make a profit. If your side gig consistently loses money, they might classify it as a hobby, which limits your deductions. 3. **State considerations** - Don't forget some states have their own self-employment taxes or different rules for business income. Check your state's requirements too. 4. **Mid-year planning** - Since you're making good money on both sides ($130k + $65k), consider increasing your W4 withholding from your day job to help cover the extra tax burden from self-employment income. Sometimes easier than quarterly payments. The combination of self-employment tax + higher tax bracket can be a shock the first year, but with proper planning and all these deductions mentioned, it becomes much more manageable!