Tax Strategy: Converting S-Corp to Family Management Company for Teenage Children's Expenses
I'm looking into restructuring my business setup and considering a Family Management Company. Currently, I have an S-Corp that I own and operate solo (no employees besides my teenage kids who help out). I'm thinking about setting up an LLC that my spouse would manage, and this LLC would bill my S-Corp for work my teenagers do. My main question is about how my kids (who live at home) can use their earnings. Can they legally use their pay (about $500/month for cleaning the office, maintaining company vehicles, filing, data entry, etc.) to cover their own expenses like: - Car payments (though the vehicle is in my name) - Private school tuition - Cell phone bills - Car insurance - Gaming subscriptions - Contributing to household groceries Just to be clear, I'm not in a position to simply shift income to them for retirement accounts. We're a modest operation - I'm not pulling in huge profits. I'm trying to find legitimate ways for their reasonable compensation to help offset expenses we're already covering as parents. Not trying to skirt any tax laws, just exploring legal options to make this arrangement beneficial for our family finances.
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Natalie Khan
This is an interesting tax planning strategy, but there are some important considerations to keep in mind. First, any arrangement between your S-Corp and the Family Management LLC needs to be legitimate with real services being performed for reasonable compensation. The IRS looks closely at family business arrangements, especially when minors are involved. For your specific question about how your kids can use their earnings - once they're properly paid for legitimate work, that money is legally theirs to spend however they choose. They can absolutely use it for their personal expenses like the ones you've listed. There's no rule saying kids can't use their earnings to pay for their own expenses, even if those items are technically in your name. However, you should document everything carefully. Make sure you have job descriptions, timesheets, and evidence of work performed. Pay market rates for the services. The Management LLC should be set up properly with separate accounts, and your wife should actively manage it (not just on paper). Also remember that if the kids earn more than $12,950 (2023 standard deduction), they'll need to file their own tax returns and pay income tax on the excess.
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Daryl Bright
•Thanks for the comprehensive answer. I have a follow-up question: How does the money actually flow in this arrangement? Does the S-Corp pay the LLC and then the LLC pays the children? Or does the LLC just collect a management fee and the children are paid directly from the S-Corp? Also, wouldn't the IRS see this as just trying to avoid payroll taxes?
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Natalie Khan
•The typical flow would be: your S-Corp pays the Family Management LLC for services provided, then the LLC pays your children as either employees or contractors depending on how you've structured it. This creates a clear separation between your S-Corp and your children. This arrangement isn't automatically considered tax avoidance if it's legitimately structured and the work is actually being performed. The key is substance over form - there needs to be actual business purpose and economic reality to the arrangement. If your children are performing real, necessary work at market rates, and proper documentation is maintained, this can be a legitimate business structure. Remember that the LLC will still have its own tax obligations including potentially payroll taxes depending on how it's set up.
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Sienna Gomez
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Abigail bergen
•I'm skeptical about using third-party services for something this complex. Wouldn't it be better to just consult with a CPA who specializes in small businesses? This sounds like the kind of arrangement that could get flagged during an audit if not done exactly right.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
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Ahooker-Equator
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Tyrone Hill
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Toot-n-Mighty
One thing to consider with the Family Management Company approach is whether the arrangement makes business sense beyond tax benefits. The IRS may challenge arrangements that appear to exist primarily for tax purposes rather than legitimate business reasons. Ask yourself: Would you pay an unrelated third party for these same services? Is the compensation reasonable for the work performed? Are you maintaining proper documentation of hours worked and services provided? I've seen these arrangements work well when they're properly structured, but I've also seen them fall apart under audit when the taxpayer couldn't demonstrate real business purpose.
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Rudy Cenizo
•Thanks for bringing this up. Would it help if I created detailed job descriptions and had my kids track their hours with a time-tracking app? The work they're doing (cleaning, filing, data entry) is stuff I'd otherwise have to hire someone else to do, so there is genuine business purpose here.
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Toot-n-Mighty
•Yes, detailed job descriptions and time tracking would be excellent documentation. I would also recommend taking photos of completed work occasionally, keeping a schedule of regular duties, and perhaps most importantly, paying market rates for the services provided. One approach that has worked well for clients is to research what cleaning services, administrative assistants, and other comparable roles would cost if hired externally, then use those figures to establish your payment rates. This creates a clear paper trail showing the business necessity and reasonableness of the arrangement. Also, make sure the kids are actually receiving their compensation (direct deposit to their accounts is better than cash) and that they have control over how it's spent, even if they choose to use it for expenses you've mentioned.
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Lena Kowalski
Has anyone addressed the issue of self-employment taxes in this scenario? If the kids are paid through the Family Management LLC as independent contractors, they'll owe self-employment tax (15.3%) on their earnings. If they're employees of the LLC, the LLC will need to handle payroll taxes. Either way, there's no avoiding FICA taxes completely in this arrangement, which is something to factor into your calculations.
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DeShawn Washington
•There's actually an exception for children under 18 employed by a parent's sole proprietorship or partnership (if only parents are partners). They're exempt from FICA taxes. But this doesn't apply to corporations or LLCs taxed as corporations, so the structure matters.
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Emma Wilson
This is a solid tax strategy if executed properly, but I'd strongly recommend getting everything documented before you start. The key is making sure the work arrangement has genuine business substance. A few practical tips from my experience with similar setups: 1. Have your kids punch in/out with a simple time tracking system - even a basic app works 2. Create written job descriptions that match what outside contractors would do 3. Pay them via direct deposit to their own bank accounts (not cash) 4. Keep the LLC and S-Corp completely separate - different bank accounts, proper invoicing between entities One thing to watch: if your kids are under 18 and this is structured as a sole proprietorship or partnership (with only you and your spouse), they may be exempt from FICA taxes. But since you're talking about an LLC structure, that exemption likely won't apply. The expenses you listed (car payments, school tuition, etc.) are perfectly fine uses of their earned income. Once they're legitimately paid for real work, it's their money to spend as they choose. Just make sure the compensation is reasonable for the work performed - research what you'd pay outsiders for similar services and use that as your benchmark.
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Aaliyah Reed
•This is really helpful advice! I'm just starting to explore this option for my own family business and wondering about the practical side - how do you handle the invoicing between the S-Corp and LLC? Do you need formal contracts or is a simple invoice sufficient? Also, when you mention researching what you'd pay outsiders - are there specific resources you'd recommend for finding market rates for things like office cleaning and data entry performed by teenagers? I want to make sure I'm setting fair compensation that won't raise any red flags.
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