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I ran into this same issue and my accountant explained it this way: think of them as completely different transactions that just happen to involve the same account type. A Roth CONVERSION is taking money that was already in a tax-advantaged retirement account (Traditional IRA) and moving it to a different type of tax-advantaged account (Roth IRA). You already got the tax deduction when the money went into the Traditional IRA, so now you pay tax when converting to Roth. A Roth CONTRIBUTION is taking money from your regular bank account (money you've already paid income tax on) and putting it into a Roth IRA. There are strict annual limits on contributions ($7k-$8k depending on age).
This explanation is so clear! I wish they would just explain it this way in the tax software. They use all these technical terms without really explaining the difference. I'm looking at doing a small Roth conversion next year (nothing like the OP's amount!) and this really helps me understand how it'll work.
Just want to add one more important point that helped me when I was in a similar situation - make sure you keep really good records of your Roth conversion for future reference. The $250K you converted will now grow tax-free in the Roth IRA, and when you eventually take distributions in retirement, you won't owe any tax on the growth. But you need to track the "basis" (the amount you already paid tax on through the conversion) versus any future growth. Also, remember the 5-year rule - even though your wife is 59, the converted amount has its own 5-year waiting period before it can be withdrawn penalty-free if needed. Each conversion has its own 5-year clock. This is different from regular contributions which have more flexible withdrawal rules. TurboTax should generate the proper forms (like Form 8606 if applicable) to track all this, but definitely save copies of everything including the 1099-R and your completed return for your records.
Dont forget about the kiddie tax if your children have substantial unearned income (like interest or dividends over $2,300). This can get complicated since it might get taxed at the parents' rate. My daughter had some investments from her grandparents that triggered this and it was a nightmare to figure out!
Just to add another perspective - don't forget that even though your kids need to file their own returns, you can still help them through the process since they're minors. I'd recommend using this as a teaching opportunity to show them how taxes work. For your daughter's W-2 income, it's pretty straightforward - she'll likely get a refund if any taxes were withheld. For your son's cash income, make sure he starts keeping better records going forward (dates, amounts, who paid him) since he'll need to report this as self-employment income on Schedule C. One tip: if your son's self-employment income puts him over $400, he'll owe self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare taxes) even if he doesn't owe income tax. This is often surprising to parents! The good news is at his income level, it won't be much, but it's something to budget for. Also consider having them set aside a small percentage of future earnings for taxes so they're not caught off guard next year.
Has anyone successfully e-filed with this W-2/1042-S combination? I tried using H&R Block's software and it kept giving me errors when I entered the 1042-S information. Wonder if TurboTax or TaxAct handle it better or if I just need to file a paper return.
I managed to e-file with TurboTax Premier last year with both forms. The trick was entering the 1042-S in the "Foreign Income" section, not trying to enter it as a W-2 or 1099. Make sure you have the paid version though - the free one definitely won't handle this.
I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! Working in the US for half the year then remotely from Germany. One thing I learned that might help others - make sure to check if your employer properly applied the tax treaty withholding rate on your 1042-S. The standard 30% withholding can often be reduced under tax treaties. For example, the US-Germany treaty allows for reduced rates on certain types of employment income. If your employer didn't apply the treaty rate, you can still claim the benefit when filing your return, but it means waiting longer for your refund. Also, keep really good records of which days you worked where. The IRS can be picky about the physical presence test for treaty benefits, especially if you're claiming reduced withholding rates. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking my location each workday just to be safe. Has anyone had luck getting their employer to retroactively apply the correct treaty withholding rate, or do you pretty much have to wait until tax filing to get the difference back?
2 I went through this exact situation last year! An important thing to note is that if you're filing as a resident alien, you need to report your WORLDWIDE income, not just US-source income. Make sure you're reporting any foreign bank interest, investments, or other income you might have had in your home country during 2022. This is different from when you were a nonresident and only had to report US-source income.
17 Omg I didn't even think about that! I have a savings account back home that earned interest. Do I need to convert that to USD for reporting purposes? And how do I prove I paid foreign taxes on it already so I'm not double taxed?
2 Yes, you need to convert any foreign currency amounts to USD using the annual average exchange rate for 2022. The IRS publishes these rates, or you can find them online from reputable financial sources. For foreign taxes paid, you'll want to look into the Foreign Tax Credit (Form 1116). This allows you to offset your US tax liability with taxes you've already paid to another country on the same income. You'll need documentation of those foreign taxes paid, so gather statements from your home country's banks or tax authorities. This prevents the double taxation scenario you're concerned about.
Just a heads up for anyone considering the dual-status election - if you switched from nonresident to resident alien mid-year like the OP, you might want to look into making the first-year choice election. This allows you to be treated as a resident for the entire tax year instead of having a dual-status year, which can simplify your filing significantly. You'd file Form 1040 with a statement attached explaining your election. The catch is you have to meet certain requirements (like being married to a US citizen or resident) and you'll be taxed on worldwide income for the full year. But it can eliminate the complexity of dealing with the 1042-S in the context of a dual-status return. Not everyone qualifies, but it's worth checking Publication 519 to see if this election makes sense for your situation. Sometimes the simplified filing process is worth potentially paying a bit more in taxes.
Lindsey Fry
3 Has anyone used TurboTax's W2 import feature? I'm wondering if I should just wait for my official W2 to use that or if I should manually enter everything from my paystub.
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Lindsey Fry
ā¢15 Definitely wait for your official W2 to use the import feature. I tried entering from my paystub last year and ended up having to amend my return because of some differences with taxable benefits that weren't on my paystub. The import feature is super convenient but only works with the actual W2.
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Harper Collins
Great question! I've been through this exact situation multiple times. Your last pay stub can give you a pretty good estimate, but there are definitely some key differences to watch out for. The main numbers like gross wages, federal/state taxes withheld, Social Security, and Medicare should be very close between your final paystub and W2. However, your W2 will likely include additional reporting that doesn't show up on regular paystubs: - Box 12 codes for things like 401k contributions, health insurance premiums, dependent care assistance - Taxable fringe benefits that get added at year-end - Any stock compensation or bonuses that were processed after your last paycheck - Corrections to previously reported amounts One thing I always tell people - if you're just trying to get a rough idea of whether you'll owe or get a refund, your paystub numbers are usually close enough for planning purposes. But definitely wait for the actual W2 before filing, since the IRS will have the official numbers and any discrepancies could cause processing delays. Your employer should have W2s to you by January 31st, so hopefully not much longer to wait!
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