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Just to add another perspective - I reported all my non-CFTC exchange trades as short-term capital gains last year (held everything under a year) and had no issues. Made sure to keep meticulous records of all transactions though, including screenshots of the trades and exported CSV files from the exchanges. I used TurboTax and just entered them all manually on Form 8949. Time-consuming but straightforward. My tax guy said the IRS is mostly concerned that you're reporting everything correctly and paying the proper tax, not so much about which exact form you use as long as it's reasonable.
Did you report each transaction individually or did you consolidate them? I have hundreds of trades and wondering if I need to list every single one or if I can summarize somehow.
I reported each transaction individually because that's the technically correct way to do it. However, if you have hundreds of trades, there is an alternative. You can attach a separate statement to your return that includes all the required information (date acquired, date sold, proceeds, cost basis, gain/loss) and then enter the totals on Form 8949. On the Form 8949 itself, you would check Box C (not reported on Form 1099-B) and write "See attached statement" in the description column. Just make sure your statement has all the same information that would be required on the form itself, organized in a similar format.
Does anyone know if staking rewards from these non-CFTC exchanges are treated differently than trading gains? I got both types of income and now I'm confused about where to report the staking rewards.
Staking rewards are typically treated as ordinary income at the fair market value when you received them, not as capital gains. You'd report these on Schedule 1 as "Other Income." When you eventually sell the tokens received from staking, that would be a capital gain/loss transaction. Your cost basis would be the value at which you initially reported the income (when received).
FYI - for the woodworking stuff, you might actually be better off treating it as a business instead of a hobby if you're doing it with any regularity. I do similar woodturning (bowls/pens) and have been declaring it as a business for 3 years now. Benefits: - Can deduct ALL expenses including tools, materials, even part of your home workspace - Can deduct mileage to craft fairs, supply stores, etc - Losses can offset other income (within limits) You need to show that you're trying to make a profit (keep good records, have business cards, maybe an Etsy shop, etc.) even if you're not profitable yet. The IRS allows businesses to have losses for several years as you build up. Talk to a tax pro, but don't automatically assume it's just a hobby.
Thanks for this perspective! I do keep pretty detailed records of material costs, time spent, etc. just for my own tracking. I haven't really marketed my stuff beyond the occasional craft fair, but I have been thinking about setting up an Etsy. Do I need a business license or anything formal to call it a business on my taxes? And would I still use Schedule C even for such a small operation?
You don't necessarily need a formal business license for tax purposes, though your local requirements might vary. For federal taxes, you can absolutely use Schedule C even for very small operations - there's no minimum income threshold. The detailed records you already keep are perfect - that's exactly what helps establish it as a business rather than a hobby. If you're thinking about Etsy, that's another indicator of profit motive. Other things that help: having business cards, a dedicated Instagram for your woodworking, participating in multiple craft fairs, reinvesting income into better equipment, and learning new techniques to improve your products. The IRS looks at your intent and behavior more than the actual profit.
Quick tip on the PayPal/1099-K situation - PayPal is required to issue 1099-Ks for annual payments over a certain threshold, but that doesn't mean you have to pay taxes twice! When I enter my tax info, I always: 1) Enter the 1099-NEC first 2) When TurboTax asks about 1099-K, I say yes, I received one 3) When it asks if this income was already reported elsewhere, I say YES 4) It'll then ask you to identify which income it duplicates This way everything is properly documented but not double-counted. Hope that helps!
This is super helpful - thanks! TurboTax has been confusing me with this exact issue. Does this also work if the amounts don't match exactly? My 1099-NEC is slightly different than my 1099-K total (like $50 difference) because of some timing issues with the payments.
Pro tip: If you still can't find your 1099 download option, check if your company uses a third-party payroll service like ADP, Paychex, or Gusto. Sometimes the forms aren't on your company portal at all but on these separate systems. I wasted days looking in my employee portal before realizing my company had switched to Workday for all tax documents. Had to create a whole separate login!
This is so annoying though cause nobody tells you when they switch systems! My company did this last year and sent ONE email that went to my spam folder. Is there any requirement for them to notify us about where to find tax docs?
Companies should notify employees about where to find tax documents, but there's no specific legal requirement about the method of notification. They're only legally required to provide the documents by January 31st, either electronically or by mail. Sometimes these notifications end up in spam folders because they come from the third-party provider rather than your company's domain. I recommend checking with HR or the payroll department if you're unsure. Many companies also post this information on their intranet or employee portals during tax season.
Has anyone tried just going old school and requesting the 1099 to be mailed? I gave up on the portal nonsense and called the company directly. They seemed confused why I couldn't find it online but agreed to mail me a paper copy. Should arrive in 5-7 business days they said.
Have you looked into the Credit Karma Tax platform (now called Cash App Taxes)? It's completely free for federal and state filing, even with complex returns. I switched from TurboTax to them two years ago and haven't looked back. It's not fully forms-based like you're asking for, but it gives you much more flexibility to jump between sections without forcing you through the entire interview process again. And you can't beat the price - FREE.
I've heard mixed things about Cash App Taxes - doesn't it have limitations on which forms it supports? I need to file some investment forms and I think I read somewhere that they don't support all of them. Have you used it with any complex investing situations?
You're right that it does have some limitations. It works for most common investment forms (1099-B, 1099-DIV, etc.), but doesn't support some of the more obscure forms. I have fairly standard investments and it worked fine for me. They don't support foreign income, multiple state filings, or K-1 forms for partnerships. If you need any of those, it wouldn't work for your situation. Their website has a complete list of supported forms that's worth checking against your specific needs before you invest time in entering all your data.
For California residents, don't forget about CalFile! It's the state's free e-filing system for CA state taxes. Obviously doesn't help with federal, but at least you can save money on the state portion. I combine CalFile for my state return with a cheaper option like FreeTaxUSA for federal. That way I'm only paying for one return instead of two.
CalFile is great but they have income limits and other restrictions. Worth checking if you qualify first: https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/ways-to-file/online/calfile/qualifications.html Not everyone will be eligible unfortunately!
Evelyn Xu
Another option: check if the company is large enough to have a vendor management or accounts payable department. Sometimes the people sending these requests are just following a script and don't know there are alternatives. I've had success emailing AP departments directly with a completed W9 and a polite explanation that I prefer not to use third-party systems due to privacy concerns. About 75% of the time, they'll just accept it and process it manually. The other 25%, they insist on their system, and then you have to decide if the work is worth it.
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Sebastian Scott
ā¢This is a great suggestion. Do you typically just call their main number and ask for accounts payable? I'm dealing with a medium-sized marketing agency if that helps.
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Evelyn Xu
ā¢For medium-sized agencies, I usually check their website first for direct contact info for their finance team. If that doesn't work, yes, calling the main number and asking for accounts payable or vendor management usually works. Marketing agencies tend to be more flexible than large corporations in my experience. Just be polite but firm that you're happy to provide your tax information but prefer to use the standard IRS form. I usually say something like "for consistency in my record-keeping" rather than making it sound like I don't trust their system.
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Dominic Green
Has anyone tried just printing out the third party TOS, crossing out the parts you don't agree with, signing it, and scanning it back? That's what my accountant suggested when I ran into this. Send it with a note saying "I've agreed to the modified terms as indicated." The worst they can do is say no, and sometimes they just process it anyway because nobody actually reads what you send back.
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Hannah Flores
ā¢I work in accounts payable and please don't do this. It creates a huge headache for us and will likely result in your documents being rejected or severely delayed. Most large companies have automated systems that flag modified forms for manual review, which puts your paperwork at the bottom of a very long queue.
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