Struggling with 1065 Form - Ordinary vs Rental Real Estate Income Classification
I'm working on a partnership return (Form 1065) for some friends who own rental properties, and I'm completely stuck on how to classify their income. It's been years since I've handled a real estate return, especially one where the partners are this involved in the property management. They have a mix of long-term rental units with regular tenants and several Airbnb short-term rental units. What's complicating things is that they personally handle a ton of the maintenance and repairs themselves - like replacing drywall in recently vacated units, fixing plumbing issues, etc. They've invested in quite a lot of tools and equipment specifically for maintaining these properties. My main question is: Should any of this work or the expenses for tools/equipment be classified as ordinary income/expenses, or does everything fall under Line 2 (8825) rental real estate income? I'm second-guessing myself on how to properly categorize these on the 1065. If anyone has experience with this specific situation or knows of any helpful resources about partnership returns with active real estate involvement, I'd really appreciate the guidance. Thanks!
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Giovanni Greco
This is a common point of confusion! In most cases, all income and expenses related to rental real estate activities should be reported on Form 8825 (Rental Real Estate Income and Expenses of a Partnership), which feeds into line 2 of Form 1065. The fact that the partners are personally performing maintenance and repairs doesn't change the fundamental nature of the income as rental income. The tools and equipment they purchased for property maintenance are considered expenses against the rental income, not separate business activities generating ordinary income. These expenses would generally go on Form 8825, Part I, line 14 (Repairs and maintenance) or possibly line 18 (Other expenses) depending on the exact nature. For larger purchases that might need to be capitalized, you'd handle those through depreciation.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•Thanks for the clear explanation. One follow-up question: what if they occasionally do similar handyman work for other property owners and get paid for it? Would that income be reported differently since it's not for their own rental properties?
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Giovanni Greco
•Yes, that would be different! If they're performing handyman or repair services for other property owners and receiving compensation, that would constitute a separate business activity. That income would be reported as ordinary business income on Form 1065, page 1, and detailed on a separate Schedule K-1. The key distinction is whether the work is being performed on their own rental properties (which is part of their rental real estate activity) versus providing services to others for a fee (which is a separate business activity). This separate activity would need its own accounting and expense tracking.
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Miguel Diaz
I handle several real estate partnerships, and the distinction really depends on the operating agreement and how the partnership is structured. If the partners receive guaranteed payments for services performed, that's treated differently than if they're just active in managing their investment. From what you described, it sounds like they're just active owners taking care of their own properties. In that case, all expenses and income related to the properties would go on Form 8825 as rental activities. The tools they purchased would be deductible expenses against the rental income (either as repairs/maintenance or capitalized if they meet the capitalization thresholds).
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Zainab Ahmed
•Does it matter if some of the properties are Airbnb (short-term) vs traditional long-term rentals? I've heard those might be treated differently depending on the level of services provided.
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Miguel Diaz
•Yes, that's an important distinction. Short-term rentals like Airbnb can potentially be treated as a different type of activity if substantial services are provided to guests. If they're providing services similar to a hotel (regular cleaning, daily maid service, concierge services, etc.), the Airbnb activities might need to be reported as ordinary business income rather than rental income. However, if they're just providing basic services (occasional cleaning between guests, property maintenance, utilities), it would still qualify as rental activity. For a partnership with both types, you might need to segregate the activities if the Airbnb operations rise to the level of being a service business rather than a rental activity. The key factor is the extent of services provided beyond just furnishing property.
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Connor Gallagher
Did anyone mention material participation rules yet? I think OP needs to consider whether partners are materially participating or not which can affect how passive vs non-passive income/loss is allocated on K-1s. If they're spending significant time on repairs and management, they might hit the material participation threshold.
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AstroAlpha
•This is a good point. Material participation affects how the income/losses flow through to the partners' individual returns, but I don't think it changes how the activity is reported on the 1065 itself, right? It would still be rental income on Form 8825, but the K-1s would indicate whether each partner's share is passive or non-passive.
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Aisha Hussain
Great question! I've dealt with similar partnership situations involving active real estate management. The key is understanding that the nature of the income doesn't change based on who performs the work - it's still rental real estate activity. For your 1065 with mixed rental properties, everything should be reported on Form 8825 (Rental Real Estate Income and Expenses). The tools and equipment they purchased for property maintenance are legitimate business expenses that reduce the rental income, typically reported on line 14 (Repairs and maintenance) or line 18 (Other expenses). The fact that they're doing the work themselves actually strengthens the case that this is rental activity rather than a separate service business. If they were providing substantial services beyond normal property management (like daily housekeeping for short-term rentals), you might need to consider whether some activities rise to the level of ordinary business income. One thing to watch for: if any of the tool purchases are substantial enough to require capitalization rather than immediate expensing, you'll need to depreciate those over their useful life. But for typical maintenance tools, they're usually fully deductible as current expenses. The partnership structure keeps everything together on one return, but make sure you're properly tracking each partner's level of participation for the K-1 passive/non-passive determinations.
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Felicity Bud
•This is really helpful, thanks! I'm curious about the capitalization threshold you mentioned for tools. What's the general rule for when maintenance tools need to be depreciated versus expensed immediately? Is there a specific dollar amount or is it based on useful life? I want to make sure I'm handling their equipment purchases correctly.
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Oliver Schmidt
I've handled several similar partnership returns with active real estate owners, and you're right to be thoughtful about the classification. The good news is that in most cases, all of this activity stays on Form 8825 as rental real estate income and expenses. The key principle is that when partners perform maintenance and repairs on their own rental properties, it's still considered part of the rental real estate activity - not a separate business generating ordinary income. This is true even when they're very hands-on with the work. For the tools and equipment they purchased, these are legitimate rental expenses that should be reported on Form 8825. Smaller tools (hand tools, basic equipment) typically go on line 14 as repairs and maintenance expenses. Larger equipment purchases might need to be capitalized and depreciated depending on cost and useful life. One area to pay attention to with mixed rental types: if the Airbnb properties involve substantial services beyond typical property management (like daily housekeeping, concierge services, meal preparation), those activities could potentially be treated as ordinary business income rather than rental income. But basic services like cleaning between guests and general property maintenance still qualify as rental activity. The material participation rules others mentioned will affect the passive/non-passive classification on the K-1s, but won't change how the income is reported on the 1065 itself.
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Zadie Patel
•This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Your point about substantial services for Airbnb properties is particularly helpful - I need to dig deeper into what specific services they're providing to their short-term rental guests to make sure I'm classifying everything correctly. One follow-up question: when you mention "basic services like cleaning between guests" still qualifying as rental activity, is there a specific frequency threshold? For example, if they're cleaning the Airbnb units after every guest (which could be daily during busy periods), does that push it toward being considered a service business rather than rental activity? I want to make sure I'm drawing the line in the right place between rental activity and ordinary business income for their situation.
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