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Natasha Petrov

Confused about Partnership Return and Form 8825 for Rental Income - Where Does Depreciation Go?

I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure out the correct way to report my rental property managed through our multi-member LLC. We file a partnership return and I'm completely lost on where certain expenses should go. From what I understand, all income/expenses related to the BUSINESS of managing the rental property goes on Form 1065. Then the actual rental income and expenses from the property itself get reported on Form 8825, which then flows through to each partner's K-1. What's driving me crazy is figuring out where to put the depreciation expense. If it's for the property itself (which it is), shouldn't it go on Form 8825 and not the 1065? Our accountant from last year put it on the 1065 and I'm wondering if that was correct. I'm using new tax software this year and want to make sure everything is filed properly. Anyone who can clarify this partnership/rental reporting structure would be a lifesaver! I really don't want to mess this up.

The confusion here is totally understandable! You're on the right track with your understanding of the forms, but let me clarify how depreciation should be handled. Form 8825 is specifically designed for reporting rental real estate income and expenses that flow through to a partnership. The depreciation expense for the rental property itself should absolutely be reported on Form 8825, not directly on Form 1065. Form 1065 would include depreciation for assets used in the management business (like computers, office furniture, etc.), but not for the actual rental property. Since Form 8825 is essentially a schedule that attaches to Form 1065, the property depreciation flows through 8825 to the partnership return and ultimately to the partners' K-1s. If your previous accountant reported the property depreciation directly on Form 1065 instead of Form 8825, it might be worth reviewing those returns. While the depreciation would still flow to the K-1s either way, proper form allocation helps with accurate record-keeping and potential IRS scrutiny.

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Amina Diallo

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Thanks for the explanation. If the previous accountant did put the depreciation on the 1065 instead of the 8825, would you recommend filing an amended return? Or is it ok since the depreciation still flowed to the K-1s?

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Since the depreciation ultimately flowed to the K-1s correctly, filing an amended return probably isn't necessary. The IRS is primarily concerned with the correct amount of income and deductions being reported, rather than which specific line items they appear on. For your current year's return, I would recommend putting the depreciation in the correct place on Form 8825. It's good practice to maintain consistency going forward, and it makes your returns clearer if you're ever subject to review.

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Leila Haddad

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Something that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your LLC owns multiple rental properties, you need a separate Form 8825 for EACH property. That tripped me up big time last year. Each property's income, expenses, and depreciation should be tracked separately.

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Wait, seriously? Our LLC has three different rental properties and our accountant only filed one Form 8825 last year with all properties combined. Do we need to amend those returns?

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Leila Haddad

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Actually I need to correct myself - you don't need a separate Form 8825 for each property. You can combine multiple properties on one 8825, but there should be a detailed statement attached that breaks down the income and expenses by property. Your accountant likely did this correctly. The important thing is that you're maintaining separate records for each property's income, expenses and depreciation, even if they're reported together. This is especially important for calculating depreciation correctly since each property might have been placed in service at different times with different values.

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Emma Johnson

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Another thing to consider: if any partners live in or personally use one of the rental properties for part of the year, that changes how you report everything. We had to split a property between Schedule E (personal portion) and 8825 (business portion) which was a nightmare.

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Ravi Patel

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This happened to us too! Our solution was to have the partner pay rent to the partnership for their personal use at fair market value. This kept everything on 8825 and was much cleaner. Our CPA said this approach is better as long as the partner actually pays the rent.

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Omar Farouk

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Thanks everyone for this incredibly helpful discussion! As someone who's been struggling with the same partnership/rental property filing issues, this thread has been a goldmine of information. Just to summarize what I've learned here for anyone else in a similar situation: - Property depreciation goes on Form 8825, not directly on Form 1065 - Management business assets (computers, office equipment) depreciation goes on Form 1065 - Multiple properties can be reported on one Form 8825 with detailed breakdowns - Personal use by partners complicates things significantly One question I still have: if we're doing major capital improvements to the rental property (new roof, HVAC system), does the depreciation for those improvements also go on Form 8825? Or is there a different treatment for capital improvements versus the original property basis? I'm definitely going to look into both the AI tax service and the IRS calling service mentioned here. After reading through all these responses, it's clear that getting expert guidance is worth the investment to avoid costly mistakes.

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Amina Bah

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Great summary of the key points! Regarding your question about capital improvements - yes, the depreciation for major improvements like a new roof or HVAC system would also go on Form 8825. These improvements become part of the property's depreciable basis, just like the original building. However, the depreciation periods might be different. While the building itself is typically depreciated over 27.5 years (residential) or 39 years (commercial), specific improvements might have their own depreciation schedules. For example, HVAC systems are often depreciated over a shorter period as personal property rather than real property. The key is that since these improvements are directly related to the rental property (not the management business), they belong on Form 8825 along with the original property depreciation. Just make sure you're tracking the placed-in-service dates and basis for each improvement separately for accurate depreciation calculations. This is definitely one of those areas where having professional guidance pays off - the depreciation rules can get quite complex with different types of improvements!

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This has been such a valuable thread! I'm dealing with a similar partnership/rental property situation and want to add one more consideration that might help others. If your partnership has rental properties in multiple states, you'll need to be extra careful about state filing requirements. Some states require separate partnership returns even if you're only filing one federal Form 1065. The Form 8825 information flows through to state returns differently depending on the state, and some states have their own equivalent forms for rental property reporting. We learned this the hard way when we got a notice from a state where we own one rental property. Even though we filed the federal partnership return correctly with the property depreciation on Form 8825, that state required additional forms we didn't know about. Also, regarding the capital improvements question from @Omar Farouk - make sure you're distinguishing between repairs (deductible in the current year) versus improvements (must be depreciated). The IRS has specific guidelines about what constitutes a repair versus an improvement, and getting this wrong can trigger issues during an audit. For anyone considering the AI tax service or IRS calling service mentioned above, I'd recommend trying them sooner rather than later in tax season. These partnership/rental issues can take time to resolve, and you don't want to be rushing to file at the deadline with unresolved questions.

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Zainab Omar

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Excellent point about multi-state issues! I'm just getting started with partnership tax filing and hadn't even considered that different states might have their own requirements. Our LLC currently only has properties in one state, but we're looking at expanding to neighboring states next year. Do you happen to know if there's a good resource for researching state-specific partnership filing requirements? I'd rather get ahead of this now before we acquire properties in other states and run into the same surprise you experienced. Also appreciate the reminder about repair vs. improvement distinctions - that's definitely something I need to research more carefully. It sounds like there are so many nuances to get right with partnership/rental property taxes that professional guidance is almost essential.

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As someone who's been through this exact same confusion with partnership rental properties, I completely feel your pain! The good news is that you're asking the right questions and your understanding is actually pretty solid. To directly answer your depreciation question: Yes, the depreciation for the rental property itself should absolutely go on Form 8825, not directly on Form 1065. Your previous accountant may have made an error there, but as others have mentioned, if the depreciation still flowed through to the K-1s correctly, it's probably not worth amending unless there were other issues. One thing I learned the hard way is to keep meticulous records separating your "property management business" expenses (which go on 1065) from your "rental property" expenses (which go on 8825). Things like: - 1065: Office supplies, computers, software for managing properties, vehicle expenses for property management activities - 8825: Property taxes, insurance, repairs/maintenance, utilities, and yes - property depreciation The key insight that helped me was thinking of Form 8825 as essentially a "rental property Schedule E" that attaches to your partnership return. All the same types of expenses you'd put on Schedule E for personal rental property go on 8825 for partnership-owned rental property. Also, make sure you're calculating your depreciation correctly - if you converted a personal residence to rental property, you need to use the lesser of your original cost basis or fair market value at the time of conversion. That's another common mistake I see with partnership rental properties. Good luck with your filing!

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Yara Nassar

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This is exactly the kind of clear breakdown I needed! Thank you for explaining the distinction between property management business expenses vs rental property expenses - that mental framework of thinking about Form 8825 as a "rental property Schedule E" really helps clarify things. Your point about the conversion from personal residence to rental is particularly relevant for us. One of our properties was originally a partner's primary residence before we converted it to rental use in the partnership. I hadn't considered that we need to use the lesser of cost basis or fair market value at conversion - that could significantly impact our depreciation calculations. Do you happen to know if there are any specific documentation requirements for establishing that fair market value at the time of conversion? I want to make sure we have proper support for whatever value we use in case of an audit. Also appreciate the detailed list of what goes where - I'm definitely going to use that as a checklist when preparing this year's return. It's so easy to get confused about whether something relates to the management business or the property itself.

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Sasha Ivanov

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my multi-member LLC that owns rental properties. One additional consideration I'd like to add: if your partnership is making the Section 754 election, it can significantly impact how depreciation is calculated and reported on Form 8825, especially when partners change their ownership percentages or when new partners are admitted. The Section 754 election allows the partnership to adjust the basis of partnership property when there are transfers of partnership interests or distributions. This can affect the depreciation amounts that flow through to individual partners on their K-1s. If you're not familiar with this election, it's worth discussing with your tax professional, especially if you anticipate any changes in partnership structure. Also, regarding the multi-state issues mentioned earlier - I found that the Federation of Tax Administrators website has a good state-by-state breakdown of partnership filing requirements. Each state's Department of Revenue website also typically has specific guidance for multi-state partnerships. For those considering the AI tax services or IRS callback services mentioned above, I'd also recommend checking if your state has similar callback services. Some states have implemented their own versions for state tax questions, which can be just as valuable as getting federal guidance. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that's hard to find elsewhere!

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