How do I properly report Non-Deductible Business Expenses on Form 1065?

This is actually pretty important to get right. The non-deductible expenses on Form 1065 serve a specific purpose in tracking each partner's capital account correctly. For the meals question - yes, the non-deductible 50% portion of business meals should be included in your non-deductible expenses total. The IRS wants you to track the full expenditure, even though only half is deductible for tax purposes. Regarding mortgage principal - you're right to question this. Loan principal payments are not expenses at all (deductible or non-deductible). They're balance sheet transactions that reduce a liability. They don't affect the income statement and shouldn't impact partner capital accounts through the non-deductible expense route. Only the interest portion is an expense. The reason for tracking non-deductible expenses is to properly maintain capital accounts on a tax basis. This becomes especially important if a partner leaves or if you need to calculate basis for loss limitations.

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Don't forget that if your partnership has guaranteed payments to partners, those get special treatment too. They're deductible by the partnership but don't reduce the partners' capital accounts in the same way as regular distributions. In QuickBooks and other accounting software, I set up a separate expense category for non-deductible expenses to make it easier to track them. That way at year-end, I can easily pull a report showing all the non-deductible items that need to be allocated according to our profit/loss percentages.

Is anybody else confused by the fact that these non-deductible expenses reduce capital accounts even though they don't affect taxable income? I thought the whole point of capital accounts was to track what each partner has "invested" in the business. Why would a non-deductible expense like the disallowed 50% of meals reduce that investment?

Great question about capital accounts! I just went through this exact same process last month and it was definitely confusing at first. The key thing to understand is that tax-basis capital accounts are meant to track each partner's economic interest in the partnership - not just their tax consequences. So when the partnership spends money on non-deductible expenses, that's still real money leaving the partnership that reduces the overall value available to partners. For your specific questions: - Yes, the non-deductible 50% of business meals gets included in the total - You're absolutely right about mortgage principal - that's not an expense at all, it's just moving money from cash to equity in the property One tip that helped me: think of it as tracking "book" capital accounts that reflect economic reality, while the tax return tracks the tax effects separately. The non-deductible expenses bridge that gap by ensuring your capital accounts stay aligned with the actual economic position of each partner. Since you have 3 equal partners, at least the allocation is straightforward - just split everything 33.33% each. But definitely get this right because it affects basis calculations for distributions and sales down the road.