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Douglas Foster

LLC partner net profit cash distribution greater than profit allocation % for tax purposes

So I'm in a bit of a tax situation with my 2-member LLC. My partner and I have a 50-50 ownership split, but we've never created any special profit allocation agreement, so by default our profits are allocated based on our ownership percentages. Here's where it gets tricky - I recently landed this major consulting project where I did 100% of the work. My business partner and I verbally agreed that I should take the full cash distribution since I did all the work (about $42,000 in profit). We don't have many shared expenses for the business - we each just handle our own unreimbursed expenses separately. I'm trying to figure out the tax implications here: - Will I still only have Schedule K-1 income based on my 50% ownership (so $21,000), which will pass through to my personal return as qualified business income? I'll pay self-employment tax on this portion, right? - For the other $21,000 (my partner's 50% that I'm taking as cash), will that be considered short-term capital gains for me? And I wouldn't pay self-employment tax on this part? And for my partner: - Would they actually have a Schedule K-1 loss on their personal return since they're getting allocated 50% of profits ($21,000) but not taking any distribution? - Can they still deduct their legitimate business expenses? Would they lose the ability to claim home office deduction since they technically wouldn't have business income? I know we should probably update our operating agreement, but need to understand the tax implications first. Thanks for any help!

Nina Chan

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You're getting into some complex tax territory here that might require professional guidance specific to your situation, but I can help clarify the general principles. When you have an LLC taxed as a partnership, there are two separate concepts: profit allocation and cash distributions. They don't have to match. Your K-1s will reflect the profit allocation (50/50 in your case if you haven't formally changed your operating agreement), regardless of how you distribute the cash. For your questions: - Yes, you'll report 50% of the LLC's profits ($21,000) on your personal return via K-1, and you'll pay self-employment tax on this amount - The additional cash distribution you receive isn't capital gains - it's just a distribution. Distributions themselves aren't taxable events when they don't exceed your basis in the partnership - Your partner will still report their 50% of profits on their K-1 and personal return, even though they didn't receive a cash distribution - Your partner can still deduct valid business expenses against their K-1 income, including potentially home office if they qualify The more proper way to handle this would be to create a special allocation for this specific project in your operating agreement, but that would need to meet "substantial economic effect" requirements. You might want to consult with a tax professional about implementing this correctly.

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Thanks for the response! So just to be clear, if my partner gets allocated $21k on their K-1 but doesn't actually receive any cash, they're still paying taxes on "phantom income" they never received? And then for me, I'm receiving an extra $21k in cash but that's not considered additional taxable income beyond my K-1 allocation? That seems... odd? I thought distributions that exceeded your profit allocation would be taxable somehow. Is this really how it works?

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Nina Chan

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Yes, your partner will be taxed on the $21k shown on their K-1 even though they didn't receive the cash - this is indeed "phantom income." Partnership taxation separates the allocation of profits (which determines taxation) from the distribution of cash (which generally doesn't create an immediate tax event). The additional $21k you receive isn't taxed again because the partnership has already paid tax on it through your partner's personal return. However, this distribution does reduce your partner's basis in the partnership, which could have future tax implications if they sell their interest or if the partnership liquidates. This is exactly why many LLCs create special allocation provisions in their operating agreements - to align economic reality with tax consequences. Without a special allocation that meets IRS requirements, you're stuck with the default situation you described. I'd recommend documenting this arrangement properly and considering a formal amendment to your operating agreement for future projects.

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Zadie Patel

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Quick clarification: if you do decide to create a special allocation agreement, make sure it has "substantial economic effect" as others mentioned. This means: 1) Capital accounts must be maintained properly 2) Liquidating distributions must be made according to capital accounts 3) Partners with deficit capital accounts must restore them Without these elements, the IRS could disregard your special allocation and default back to the ownership percentages. Also, you can't just allocate tax benefits without allocating the corresponding economic benefits - that's where many partnerships get in trouble.

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Is there any simple way to handle this retroactively? We're in a similar situation where one partner did 80% of the work this year but we have a 50/50 split. Tax filing deadline is approaching fast.

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Zadie Patel

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Unfortunately, retroactive special allocations are problematic. The IRS generally requires that allocations be established in advance of the economic activity. Making changes after the fact often raises red flags. Your best option at this point might be to ensure your operating agreement is updated for future projects, while accepting the default 50/50 allocation for the current tax year. Another possibility, depending on your specific situation, is to consider guaranteed payments to the partner who did more work - this is essentially a payment before profits are calculated. However, this has different tax implications and should be discussed with your tax professional before implementation.

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Has anyone actually amended their operating agreement specifically for varying distributions vs allocations? Our CPA is telling us we need to pay her $1,500 to draft language for this, which seems excessive.

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Emma Morales

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I did it last year with my 2-person LLC. We used a template from our legal service subscription and then had it reviewed by our accountant (much cheaper than having them draft it from scratch). The key elements were: 1) Special allocation provisions that meet the substantial economic effect test 2) Clear tracking of capital accounts 3) Language about how profits from specific projects can be allocated differently Cost us about $400 total for the review and filing the amendment. You definitely don't need to pay $1,500 unless your situation is extremely complex.

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