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Manny Lark

Best ways to extract funds from an S-Corporation while minimizing tax burden?

I run a successful S-Corporation with my business partner where I own 5% and they own 95%. The company is doing pretty well, generating about $250K in profit after expenses. We each get K-1s showing our respective profit shares (I get 5%, so around $12.5K) which we report on our personal returns. We both take regular salaries, but I'm also taking periodic distributions. Last year I withdrew a substantial amount, around $30K, which greatly exceeds my 5% profit share shown on my K-1. Here's my dilemma: If the company makes $250K, my partner gets a K-1 for $237.5K, I get one for $12.5K. We each pay taxes on those amounts, and theoretically the retained earnings can be withdrawn tax-free. But if I take out $30K, my partner is essentially paying tax on money I'm withdrawing! What I'd like to do is take a distribution (let's say $30K) and have that count as an expense BEFORE the K-1s are calculated. So the company would make $250K - $30K = $220K, partner gets a K-1 for $209K, I get one for $11K, and then I'd pay whatever tax is needed on that $30K. I've been treating these extra payments as bonuses in the past, but they're really profit-sharing distributions. How can I get these funds with minimal tax impact? We haven't filed our corporate return for 2024 yet, so if there's a more advantageous (but completely legal and ethical) approach, I'd love to know. I've read something about distributions being taxed at long-term capital gains rates if they exceed the shareholder's stock basis. Could this apply here? I'm also confused about my stock basis. I paid very little for my 5% back in 2015. How do these distributions affect my basis? If my basis was $15K and I took $30K last year, is my basis now $-15K? What's the relationship between stock basis and ownership percentage? Should we have been adjusting ownership percentages annually based on our bases? Is the stock basis the same as the K-1 amount? I'd love clarification on how these four elements interact in S-Corporation taxation: stock basis, ownership percentage, K-1 amounts, and shareholder withdrawals. And ultimately, how can I take money out of the S-Corp where I'm a 5% shareholder, in amounts significantly exceeding what's on my K-1? Thanks for reading all this!

Rita Jacobs

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This is a common issue with S-Corps when distributions aren't proportional to ownership. Let me clarify a few points: First, distributions from an S-Corp aren't company expenses - they're distributions of already-taxed profits. They don't reduce the company's income before K-1 allocation. When the company makes $250K, that profit is allocated based on ownership (95%/5%) regardless of who takes what distributions. Your stock basis is super important here. It starts with what you paid for your shares, then increases by your share of profits (K-1 income) each year and decreases by distributions you take. If distributions exceed your basis, that excess is typically taxed as capital gains. For example: If you started with $5K basis, then had $12.5K on your K-1 this year, your basis would increase to $17.5K. If you then took $30K in distributions, the first $17.5K is tax-free but the remaining $12.5K would be taxed as capital gains. One option might be to increase your salary instead of taking larger distributions, but be careful - the IRS expects "reasonable compensation" for your work. Another approach could be to restructure your ownership percentage to better reflect the economic reality of your business relationship. Your accountant should have been tracking your basis annually - this is critical for S-Corp shareholders.

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Manny Lark

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Thanks for the detailed explanation. So there's no way to categorize these distributions as an expense before profits are divided? I was hoping there might be some designation that would reduce the taxable income of the business before it flows to our personal returns. Regarding the basis tracking - it sounds like we've been doing this all wrong for years. Should I be concerned that our previous tax filings might have issues if we haven't been properly tracking basis?

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Rita Jacobs

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There's no way to categorize shareholder distributions as business expenses - they're fundamentally different. Business expenses reduce company profit before it's allocated to shareholders, while distributions are simply withdrawals of that profit after allocation. You should definitely get your basis history sorted out as soon as possible. While it's a common oversight in small S-Corps, it can create problems if you're audited. Your accountant should be able to reconstruct your basis by reviewing past K-1s and distribution records. This isn't necessarily a reason to amend previous returns, but going forward you'll want accurate tracking.

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Khalid Howes

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Ben Cooper

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How exactly does this work? Does it just analyze your past returns or does it actually provide specific tax strategies? I'm in a similar situation but with a 10% ownership and I'm taking about 25% of distributions.

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Naila Gordon

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Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Does it actually connect with a real tax pro or is it just software making recommendations? I've been burned before by tax software that missed nuances in S-Corp distributions.

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Khalid Howes

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Naila Gordon

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After seeing that comment about taxr.ai, I decided to try it out for my S-Corp situation. Honestly, I was pretty stunned by what I found! The analysis showed that my accountant had been calculating my stock basis incorrectly for the past 4 years. Turns out I had been adding my K-1 income to my basis (correct) but not properly accounting for prior year losses and certain non-deductible expenses (incorrect). This meant my available tax-free distribution amount was actually about $22K less than what I thought. The service gave me a complete basis history and projection tool that showed exactly how much I could take out each year without triggering gains taxes. It also suggested restructuring some distributions as loan repayments (since I had loaned the company money years ago) which would have no tax impact. For anyone with an S-Corp dealing with complex distribution issues, this was definitely worth it. Saved me from potentially taking distributions that would have been taxed at capital gains rates when I thought they'd be tax-free.

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Cynthia Love

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Darren Brooks

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How does this actually work? I've literally spent hours on hold with the IRS trying to get answers about my S-Corp basis questions. Do they just call for you or something?

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Rosie Harper

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS phone system is literally designed to make you give up. I doubt any service can magically get you through when millions of people can't get through themselves.

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Cynthia Love

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Rosie Harper

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I'm actually shocked to report that the Claimyr service actually worked. After seeing the recommendation here, I tried it for my own S-Corp question about excessive distributions. I'd been trying to reach the IRS for weeks with no luck. Their service got me connected to an IRS representative in about 70 minutes (while I was in meetings, so I didn't waste any time on hold). The IRS agent confirmed that I needed to recalculate my stock basis from inception of the company, accounting for all past profits, losses and distributions. She explained that taking distributions higher than my ownership percentage was fine, but I needed to watch my basis carefully. The agent also explained that if my distributions exceeded my basis, I'd need to report it as capital gains on Form 8949 and Schedule D. This was actually different from what my accountant had told me (he thought it would be ordinary income). This info potentially saved me thousands in taxes and helped me understand exactly how to document these transactions properly.

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned is a potential restructuring of your agreement with your business partner. If you're consistently taking distributions beyond your 5% ownership, maybe your ownership percentage doesn't actually reflect your value to the company. Consider renegotiating your equity stake to better align with the economic reality of the business. This would solve the distribution problem long-term because your K-1 would better reflect what you're actually taking from the business. Another approach is to look at compensation strategies beyond just salary and distributions. Could part of your compensation be structured as guaranteed payments? Unlike distributions, these ARE deductible by the S-Corp before profits are allocated via K-1s.

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Manny Lark

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The idea of renegotiating my equity stake is interesting. My partner and I have been operating this way for years without really thinking about the tax consequences. Do guaranteed payments still incur self-employment tax like salary would?

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Yes, guaranteed payments do incur self-employment tax similar to salary. That's the downside compared to distributions. However, unlike regular salary which needs to meet "reasonable compensation" standards, guaranteed payments can be tied to specific services or capital you provide to the business. They're especially useful when partners contribute unequally in ways not reflected by ownership percentages. For the equity restructuring, you might consider a gradual approach where your percentage increases over time based on predefined performance metrics. This could help align your tax situation with the economic reality without creating a sudden shift in the business relationship.

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Demi Hall

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Has anyone here actually tried using a loan structure instead of distributions? Our S-Corp (I'm a 30% owner) established a shareholder loan program where we can take advances beyond our distribution percentages, and then either repay them or have them forgiven as future distributions when our basis is sufficient. Seems cleaner than just taking distributions beyond ownership percentage, but I'm not sure if there are downsides.

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I've done this. The key is proper documentation - you need a written loan agreement with reasonable interest and a realistic repayment schedule. Without that, the IRS might reclassify it as a distribution anyway.

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