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How do I properly handle General Partnership Tax Filing for our new entertainment business?

My friend and I just started a live entertainment business together as general partners. We recently landed our first contract that will bring in about $7,500 by the end of the year. After covering our initial expenses, we'll have roughly $4,000 left in our new business account. We're planning to keep this money in the business for future expenses rather than taking it out as personal distributions. I know general partnerships are pass-through entities not taxed at the business level. Since we're equal partners (50/50), I'm wondering if at tax time we should each claim $2,000 (half of the profits) as personal income on our tax returns, even though we're leaving the money in the business account? Also, my partner will be performing at our gigs alongside other performers who'll be paid as independent contractors with 1099s. We've agreed she'll receive the same performance rate as the others. Do I need to issue her a W9/1099 for her performance pay to properly deduct those expenses? Does that even make sense given she's an owner and not technically an employee or contractor? I've got an appointment with a tax preparer coming up soon, but wanted to get some understanding of this before I go. Thanks for any guidance!

Yes, you'll each need to report your share of partnership income regardless of whether you take distributions or leave the money in the business. Partnerships file Form 1065 and issue Schedule K-1s to each partner showing their share of income (or losses). For your situation, assuming equal 50/50 ownership and no special allocations in your partnership agreement, you'd each report approximately $2,000 on your personal tax returns. This happens even though you're reinvesting the money in the business rather than taking distributions. The IRS calls this "phantom income" - you're taxed on your share of profits whether or not you physically receive the money. Regarding your partner who performs: No, you don't issue a 1099 to partners for services performed in their capacity as a partner. Their compensation is already factored into their distributive share of partnership income. However, you should document this arrangement in your partnership agreement to clearly specify if her performance pay is a guaranteed payment or part of her distributive share. Make sure you have a written partnership agreement that spells out how profits, losses, draws, and partner compensation will be handled. Bring this to your tax preparer appointment - they'll help you set up proper bookkeeping to track these arrangements correctly.

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If no 1099 is issued to the partner, how do they account for the fact that the partner is getting paid the same as the 1099 performers? Is that just a business expense that reduces the overall profit before it's distributed 50/50?

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You have two options for handling partner compensation. First, you can treat it as a "guaranteed payment" which is essentially compensation for services rendered by a partner. This is deductible by the partnership and taxable to the partner as ordinary income (and subject to self-employment tax). This would reduce the partnership profit before the 50/50 split. Alternatively, you could simply account for it through special allocations in your partnership agreement, effectively giving that partner a larger share of profits to compensate for their performance work. This would be reflected on Schedule K-1. Either way, definitely document this in your partnership agreement and consistently apply the method you choose. Your tax preparer can help set up the right accounting structure to track this properly.

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Just went through this exact situation last year. Make sure you have your partnership agreement in writing! Our tax preparer said this was the most important document for determining how partner compensation should be handled. Also, keep in mind that Schedule K-1 income is subject to self-employment tax for general partners. So both of you will owe the full 15.3% FICA taxes on your share of partnership profits, not just income tax. This surprised us our first year.

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What specific things should we include in our partnership agreement regarding the payment for performances? We have a basic agreement but didn't get that detailed.

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You should specifically include language about "guaranteed payments" for services performed by partners. This would clearly state that your partner receives $X per performance, regardless of the partnership's profitability, as compensation for services rendered in their capacity as a partner. You should also include how profits and losses will be allocated after accounting for these guaranteed payments. In your case, it would specify that after paying all performers (including your partner) and other business expenses, the remaining profits are split 50/50. Having this clearly documented will make your tax filings much more straightforward and defensible if ever questioned by the IRS.

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Don't forget you'll need to file quarterly estimated taxes if you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes from this side business! This catches a lot of new partnerships off guard.

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This is really important advice. First-time business owners often miss this and end up with underpayment penalties. I've found that setting aside about 30% of net income for taxes is a good rule of thumb for most partnerships.

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Is that $1,000 per partner or for the partnership as a whole? And how do we calculate how much to pay each quarter?

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