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Malik Thomas

How are partnership losses distributed when only one partner contributes cash?

My business partner and I own a LLC with a 50/50 split. Last year was rough - we had about $37,500 in expenses but only pulled in around $12,500 in revenue, leaving us with a $25,000 net loss. According to our partnership agreement, my partner covers all the financial investments while I contribute by working full-time without taking a salary (they only work part-time). We've always had a verbal agreement that since we're equal 50/50 partners, we would split all profits and losses equally on our individual tax returns using K1 forms. So I was planning to claim $12,500 of the loss on my personal taxes, and they would claim the other $12,500. But I just spoke with a CPA who threw me for a loop. They said I can't claim any of the losses because I didn't actually put any money into the company - just my time, which isn't considered a "cash transaction." The CPA said my partner should claim 100% of the losses since they funded everything. This doesn't seem right to me. Can I really not claim tax deductions for my 50% share of the partnership losses just because I contributed time instead of cash? Our operating agreement clearly states we're equal partners. Any insight would be super helpful - I need to get this figured out before filing. Thanks!

NeonNebula

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This is actually a common misunderstanding. Partnership losses are generally allocated according to the partnership agreement regardless of who funded the expenses, but there's an important catch: you need to have "basis" in the partnership to deduct losses. Basis is essentially your investment in the partnership. Your partner has basis because they contributed cash. You generally build basis through capital contributions, your share of partnership income, and your share of partnership debt. If you personally guaranteed any loans or the LLC has debt that you're responsible for, that can also give you basis. Without sufficient basis, you can't deduct the losses currently, but they're not lost forever. They're suspended and can be used when you acquire more basis in the future. Another consideration is the "at-risk" rules and "passive activity" rules, which might further limit your ability to claim losses even if you have basis. I'd recommend getting a second opinion from another CPA who specializes in partnerships, and review your operating agreement to see if it specifically addresses loss allocations.

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What if the operating agreement specifically says losses are split 50/50 regardless of cash contributions? Does that override the basis issue? Also, does sweat equity ever count toward basis?

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NeonNebula

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The operating agreement can specify how losses are allocated, but it doesn't override tax law regarding basis limitations. Even if losses are allocated 50/50 per your agreement, you still need sufficient basis to actually deduct those losses on your personal return. Regarding sweat equity, unfortunately the IRS doesn't recognize the value of services contributed as basis in a partnership. Contributing your time and expertise is valuable to the business, but doesn't create basis for tax purposes. This is a common frustration for service partners.

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Ravi Malhotra

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How does this actually work? Like do you have to upload all your documents or just answer questions? I'm in a similar situation but with a family business and I'm worried about privacy.

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Omar Farouk

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I'm skeptical this would help. Partnership basis issues are super specific to individual situations. Did it actually give you advice that was different from what a regular CPA would tell you?

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Ravi Malhotra

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You might want to check Section 704(d) of the tax code. It specifically states that "A partner's distributive share of partnership loss (including capital loss) shall be allowed only to the extent of the adjusted basis of such partner's interest in the partnership at the end of the partnership year in which such loss occurred." In other words, without basis, you can't take the loss. However, you should look into whether you have any share of partnership liabilities that could give you basis. For example, if the business took out a loan that you're partially responsible for as a partner, that could give you basis even without contributing cash. Also worth noting - losses that exceed your basis aren't gone forever. They're suspended and can be used once you have sufficient basis in the future.

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Malik Thomas

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Thanks for this explanation! One quick question - our business does have a small business loan of about $15,000 that we're both named on. Would my share of that liability ($7,500) potentially give me enough basis to claim at least some of the losses?

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Yes, that's exactly right! If you're personally liable for that $15,000 loan (meaning you signed personally, not just as a representative of the LLC), then your share of $7,500 would increase your basis by that amount. This would allow you to claim up to $7,500 of your allocated losses. For the remaining portion of your allocated losses that exceed your basis, those would be suspended until you either contribute capital, are allocated partnership income, or increase your share of liabilities in future years.

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Sean O'Brien

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Your CPA is partially right but didn't give you the whole picture. Look into "special allocations" in partnerships. Section 704(b) of the tax code allows partnerships to allocate tax items differently than ownership percentages IF the allocation has "substantial economic effect." Maybe consider amending your operating agreement to formally recognize your sweat equity as equivalent to your partner's cash contributions? You could also adjust the agreement to get a larger share of future profits to compensate for not being able to use the losses now. And definitely get a second opinion from a different CPA! Not all accountants specialize in partnership taxation.

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Zara Shah

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Special allocations need to be clearly documented in the operating agreement BEFORE the tax year ends though, right? Can they still make this change for last year?

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Demi Hall

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This is a frustrating but common situation in service-based partnerships. Your CPA is correct about the basis limitation - you need basis to deduct losses, and sweat equity unfortunately doesn't count under IRS rules. However, I notice from the thread that you mentioned having a $15,000 business loan that you're both named on. This is key! If you're personally liable for that debt (not just as an LLC member), your 50% share ($7,500) would give you basis to claim some of your allocated losses. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. Verify if you're personally liable for that loan - check if you signed personal guarantees 2. Get a second CPA opinion, preferably someone who specializes in partnership taxation 3. Review your operating agreement to see if it addresses loss allocations and partner liabilities 4. Consider if there are other partnership debts you might be liable for The suspended losses aren't lost forever - they'll carry forward until you have sufficient basis. And if you do have basis from the loan, you could potentially claim $7,500 of your allocated losses this year. Don't just take one CPA's word on this - partnership taxation is complex and many generalist accountants don't deal with it regularly.

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