Help understanding Negative Tax Basis on my K-1 - CPA disagreement
So I'm in this business venture that's basically running on one member's investment at this point. We have expenses but no actual income yet. For years, our old CPA divided losses/deductions among partners based on ownership percentages. Pretty straightforward, right? Well, we switched to a new CPA who's saying that was all wrong. Apparently, only partners who actually put money into the company can claim those losses? I'm so confused about this. For my 2024 taxes, I got a Schedule K-1 showing negative beginning AND ending capital accounts. The only difference between the two numbers is a small contribution I made this year. According to the new CPA, this negative number represents all the losses I was previously assigned, minus my tiny contribution this year. Here's what's weird - in previous years (with the old CPA), my tax returns only deducted the reported Box 14 Losses (Self employment earnings loss). Box 13 said "STMT" and the attached supplemental info page listed Line 13 Other Deductions (Loss) with Code J. But this negative capital account figure seems to include those numbers too. So it looks like I'm being assigned losses I never actually deducted? The negative capital account section also has additional information but I'm completely lost on what this means for my taxes. Can someone help me understand the implications of having a negative tax basis? Is the new CPA right about how losses should be allocated?
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
What you're dealing with is a fairly complex partnership tax issue. The new CPA is referring to something called "at-risk rules" and "basis limitations" - basically, you can only deduct partnership losses to the extent of your investment (basis) in the partnership. When partners don't contribute equally, loss allocations can get tricky. The tax code generally doesn't allow you to deduct losses beyond what you've actually put at risk in the business. So if one partner is funding most of the operation, they're typically entitled to most of the tax losses. A negative capital account by itself isn't necessarily bad, but it does suggest you've been allocated more losses than your actual investment. This could mean previous years' returns weren't done correctly if you took deductions beyond your basis. The difference between Box 14 (self-employment losses) and Box 13 Code J (other deductions) matters too. Some losses flow through differently depending on their nature, and not all affect your basis the same way. Without seeing the full K-1 and your previous returns, it's hard to give specific advice, but you might want to consider having a third CPA review everything to determine if amendments are needed.
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Giovanni Conti
•Thanks for the explanation. I'm still confused though - if I didn't actually claim all those losses on my personal returns (just the Box 14 ones), does that mean I still have a negative basis issue? And what happens now with this negative capital account - do I owe taxes on something I never benefited from?
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
•If you only claimed the Box 14 losses on your personal returns but were allocated additional losses that you didn't deduct, you might not have a negative basis problem from a tax perspective. Your basis in the partnership is reduced by all losses allocated to you, whether you actually deducted them or not. Regarding the negative capital account, you typically don't owe taxes just for having a negative capital account. However, if the partnership liquidates or you sell your interest, that negative balance might be treated as income to you at that time (what tax folks call "recapture"). I'd strongly recommend having another professional review your specific situation, as partnership tax can get very intricate.
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NeonNova
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Dylan Campbell
•How does taxr.ai actually work though? Do you just upload your K-1 and it figures everything out? I'm dealing with a similar mess with a real estate partnership and have K-1s going back 5 years that might have issues.
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Sofia Hernandez
•I'm skeptical about any automated tool handling complex partnership tax issues. Did it actually catch nuances like recourse vs. nonrecourse liabilities? Or suspended passive losses? These things require actual tax expertise, not just document scanning.
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NeonNova
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Dylan Campbell
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
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Ava Thompson
•How does Claimyr actually work? I've been trying to reach someone at the IRS about basis issues for months with no luck. Do they just connect you to the regular IRS line or something special?
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Sofia Hernandez
•I find it hard to believe an IRS agent would give detailed advice on partnership taxation. Most agents I've dealt with only handle basic questions and refer complex matters to tax professionals. Are you sure you got accurate information?
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
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Sofia Hernandez
I need to eat some humble pie here. After being skeptical about both the AI tool and the IRS call service mentioned above, I decided to try Claimyr since I've been unsuccessful reaching the IRS about my own partnership basis issues. Got connected to an IRS representative in about 12 minutes, and after explaining my situation, they transferred me to a business tax specialist. The specialist was actually incredibly helpful - walked me through exactly how partnership basis should be calculated and explained why my K-1 was showing a negative capital account despite suspended losses. They confirmed what others have said - that losses can only be taken to the extent of your basis, and explained the ordering rules for various items that affect basis. The agent even emailed me publications with the specific rules highlighted. For anyone struggling with partnership basis issues like the original poster described - getting direct clarification from the IRS about your specific situation is invaluable. And being able to actually reach them without spending hours on hold made a huge difference. I stand corrected on my previous skepticism.
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Miguel Ramos
Going through similar K-1 headaches with a real estate partnership. Here's something important nobody's mentioned yet: there's a difference between your "capital account" and your "outside basis." Your capital account (what's shown on the K-1) tracks your economic investment, while your outside basis is what matters for tax deductions. They're calculated differently! Outside basis includes your share of partnership liabilities, which capital accounts don't. So your negative capital account might not mean you have a negative tax basis. If the partnership has loans and you're allocated a portion of those liabilities, your basis could actually be positive even with a negative capital account. Worth asking the new CPA specifically about your "outside basis" calculation. That's what determines if you can take losses.
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Giovanni Conti
•That's super helpful! I didn't realize there was a difference between capital account and outside basis. Is there any way for me to calculate my outside basis myself? The partnership does have some loans, and I'm not sure if the new CPA is including those in their calculations.
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Miguel Ramos
•You can approximate your outside basis by starting with your capital contributions, adding your share of partnership liabilities, adding your share of partnership income, and subtracting distributions and losses allocated to you. The tricky part is determining your share of liabilities - this depends on whether they're recourse or nonrecourse and how the partnership agreement allocates them. This information should be available from the partnership, though it's not always clearly reported on the K-1. For a quick check, look at your K-1 boxes 19 and 20 for codes K, L, and M - these show your share of liabilities. If those amounts plus your capital account balance is positive, you likely have positive outside basis. But for a definitive answer, you'll need a basis schedule that tracks all these elements year by year.
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Zainab Ibrahim
Has anyone mentioned basis rules for S-corporations vs partnerships? They're different and it matters. For partnerships, you get basis for your share of partnership debt. For S-corps, you don't (unless you personally guaranteed the loans). If your entity was an S-corp rather than a partnership, that might explain why the new CPA is handling things differently. Also worth checking if the partnership agreement has special allocations that might affect who can take losses.
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StarSailor
•Good point about S-corps vs partnerships! The OP mentioned K-1s though, which both entity types issue. Is this a partnership (Form 1065) or an S-Corporation (Form 1120-S)? The basis rules are definitely different.
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Giovanni Conti
•It's definitely a partnership (Form 1065), not an S-Corp. The K-1 clearly states it's from a partnership. The partnership agreement is pretty basic - just allocates everything according to ownership percentages. But the new CPA is saying that's not how losses should be allocated if only one partner is putting in most of the money.
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Connor O'Brien
I think what's happening is your old CPA was allocating losses based on the partnership agreement (by ownership %), but the new CPA is saying this violates the "economic effect" rules in Section 704(b). Basically, for loss allocations to be respected, they need to have "substantial economic effect" - meaning the partner who takes the tax loss should bear the economic burden of that loss. If one partner is funding everything, they may be entitled to more losses regardless of ownership %. This is super complex territory that even experienced CPAs get wrong. The new CPA might be right technically, but it creates a mess when changing approaches midstream. You need someone to prepare a complete basis schedule from inception to present to sort this out properly.
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Adrian Hughes
This is a really complex situation that highlights why partnership taxation is so tricky. Based on what you've described, it sounds like you're caught between two different approaches to loss allocation - one based purely on ownership percentages, and another based on economic risk. The key issue here is that partnership tax law requires loss allocations to have "substantial economic effect" under Section 704(b). This means the partner claiming the loss should actually bear the economic burden if the partnership fails. If one member is funding most operations while others take equal loss allocations, that can create problems. Your negative capital account might actually be less concerning than it appears. What really matters for your ability to deduct losses is your "outside basis" - which includes your capital contributions plus your share of partnership liabilities. Even with a negative capital account, you might still have positive basis if the partnership has debt allocated to you. A few questions that might help clarify your situation: - Does the partnership have any loans or debt that would be allocated among partners? - What does your partnership agreement say about loss allocation and capital account maintenance? - Are there any guarantee provisions or deficit restoration requirements? Given the complexity and the fact that you're getting conflicting advice from CPAs, you might want to consider getting a third opinion from someone who specializes in partnership taxation. The difference between the two approaches could have significant implications for both current and prior year returns.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•This is exactly the kind of detailed explanation I needed! Thank you for breaking down the "substantial economic effect" concept - that really helps me understand why the two CPAs are taking different approaches. To answer your questions: - The partnership does have some business loans, but I'm not sure how they're allocated among partners or if I'm personally liable for any portion - Our partnership agreement is pretty basic and just says losses are allocated by ownership percentage, but doesn't mention anything about deficit restoration or guarantees - I don't think there are any guarantee provisions, but I'd need to double-check the actual agreement Your point about outside basis vs capital account is really helpful. I'm going to ask the new CPA specifically about my outside basis calculation and whether partnership liabilities affect it. It sounds like I need to get a complete basis worksheet prepared from the beginning to really understand where I stand. Do you think it's worth having the partnership agreement reviewed to see if it needs amendments for proper loss allocation going forward?
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