Starting an LLC with spouse - impact on FERS disability retirement benefits?
Hey everyone, I need some advice about my current situation. My wife and I are thinking about launching a small business selling handmade crafts through our own website (still in development). We're planning to form an LLC for this venture in the next few months. Here's my concern - I'm currently receiving a FERS disability retirement as a former federal employee who had to medically retire, plus I get VA disability benefits as a disabled veteran. I know there are income restrictions with my FERS disability retirement that limit how much I can earn annually. What I'm trying to figure out is how being a co-owner of this LLC with my wife might affect my FERS disability retirement checks. Would my portion of any LLC income count toward my earnings limit? Does it matter if I'm actively involved in the business versus just a silent partner? We're still in the planning stages and haven't registered anything yet. Has anyone here been through something similar or know how this works? Really appreciate any insights or experiences you could share!
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Carmen Diaz
The key factor here is whether your involvement in the LLC constitutes "income" under OPM's rules. FERS disability retirement has specific earned income limitations, currently at 80% of what your former position would be paying if you were still employed there. With an LLC, any profits allocated to you as a member would likely count against your income limit, even if you don't physically take distributions. That's because with pass-through taxation, LLC profits are typically allocated to members regardless of actual distributions taken. You might want to consider structuring the business where your wife is the sole owner, and if needed, you could be a non-compensated advisor. However, be aware that if OPM determines you're actively working in the business but hiding income, that could create serious issues.
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Andre Laurent
•But what if the LLC is set up where the wife takes 100% of the profits officially? Would OPM still count that against his income limit since they're married? Or does OPM only care about what's directly in his name?
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Carmen Diaz
•OPM generally focuses on income directly attributable to the disability annuitant, not household income. If your wife is the sole owner taking 100% of the profits, those earnings wouldn't count against your FERS income limitation. However, you would need to be careful about your actual involvement in the business - if OPM determined you were working in the business while collecting disability, they could consider that you have restored earning capacity regardless of how the paperwork is structured. For the marriage aspect, OPM doesn't typically combine spousal income for FERS disability purposes. They're primarily concerned with your personal earned income, not household income. Just make sure all documentation clearly establishes your wife's ownership and income allocation.
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AstroAce
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Zoe Kyriakidou
•How does this service work exactly? Do they actually look at your benefits paperwork or just give general tax advice? I've got SSDI not FERS but dealing with similar issues about income limits.
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Jamal Brown
•I'm skeptical about these kinds of services. How much did it cost and did they actually give you anything more than you could find with a Google search? Did they have specific experience with federal disability retirement rules?
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AstroAce
•They have you upload your relevant documents - in my case I shared my disability determination letter, benefit statements, and draft LLC operating agreement. They have experts who review everything and provide specific guidance based on your exact situation, not just generic advice you'd find online. For your SSDI question, yes they handle that too - they have specialists who understand different benefit programs and their specific income rules. The difference is they analyze your actual documentation rather than just theoretical situations. It's not just regurgitating Google search results - they provide customized analysis of your specific situation with citations to relevant regulations. And yes, they definitely understand FERS disability retirement rules - the specialist who handled my case had previously worked with federal employees on retirement planning.
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Zoe Kyriakidou
Just wanted to follow up - I ended up using taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. It was really helpful for my situation! I've been getting SSDI and was worried about starting a side business. They reviewed all my paperwork and showed me exactly how much I could earn before impacting my benefits, plus recommended the best business structure. The report they provided broke down the specific regulations that applied to my case and gave me a clear roadmap for how to proceed. They even provided documentation I can keep on file in case I ever get questioned about my income. What impressed me most was how they explained the differences between SSDI's rules and other disability programs - turns out the income counting rules are quite different! Definitely worth it for the peace of mind alone. Now I feel confident about starting my small business without accidentally messing up my benefits.
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Mei Zhang
When I needed to talk directly with someone at OPM about my FERS disability case, I spent WEEKS trying to get through on their phone lines. Eventually I found this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that got me through to an actual human at OPM in less than 2 hours. They have this system that basically waits on hold for you and calls you when a representative comes on the line. There's a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I had a complex question about my earning capacity and how business ownership would affect my FERS disability benefits, and I needed to speak with someone directly. Claimyr finally made that possible after I had wasted so much time trying to get through myself. The OPM representative was able to explain exactly how they calculate earned income for LLC members and gave me the documentation I needed.
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Liam McConnell
•How does this actually work though? They just sit on hold for you? I've been trying to reach someone at OPM for 3 weeks about my disability retirement calculation.
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Jamal Brown
•This sounds like a scam. There's no way to "skip the line" with federal agencies. They probably just keep autodialing and got lucky. And I bet they charge a fortune for this "service.
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Mei Zhang
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Jamal Brown
I have to admit I was wrong about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself since I was desperate to reach someone at OPM about my disability retirement case. It actually worked exactly as described - I got a call back about 90 minutes later with an OPM representative on the line. The representative was able to explain exactly how my specific situation with a side business would affect my FERS disability benefits. They clarified that as long as I earn less than 80% of the current salary of my former position, my benefits wouldn't be affected. They also explained how they determine what counts as "earned income" for a business owner versus an employee. I'm still shocked it worked. After three weeks of trying to get through myself and always hitting busy signals or getting disconnected, this saved me so much frustration. Sometimes being proven wrong is actually a good thing!
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Amara Oluwaseyi
Have you considered just having your wife be the sole owner of the LLC? That way the income would legally be hers, not yours. My cousin was on SSDI and his wife ran their eBay business completely in her name to avoid income limitations. Obviously talk to a professional about this, but it seems like the simplest solution.
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Yuki Tanaka
•I've thought about that approach, but I'm concerned about a few things. First, I'd still want to help with the business - building the website, handling some customer service, etc. Would OPM consider that "working" even if I'm not officially an owner? Also, would there be any potential issues with me contributing startup funds but not being on the LLC paperwork?
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Amara Oluwaseyi
•If you're contributing labor to the business, that could potentially be an issue even if you're not officially an owner. OPM looks at whether you have "restored earning capacity" which isn't just about official income but your ability to work. Contributing money without being an owner is less problematic, but should be documented as a loan or gift to keep things clean. The safest approach would be to have absolutely no involvement in day-to-day operations if your wife is the sole owner. But realistically, many people in your situation do help with family businesses in limited ways. The key is making sure it's minimal and not equivalent to gainful employment. Maybe focus on occasional advisory roles rather than regular operational tasks.
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CosmicCaptain
Has anyone successfully done the 80% rule with FERS disability? I received my FERS disability retirement 3 years ago, but I'm so confused about how they calculate the 80% threshold. Is it 80% of what I WAS making, or 80% of what someone in my old position is making NOW with all the pay increases since I left? Do they count gross income or net income if you're self-employed/LLC?
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Giovanni Rossi
•It's 80% of what someone in your position would be making NOW, including any pay increases that have happened since you left. This is actually a benefit to you as the threshold increases over time. For self-employment they look at net income after business expenses, not gross.
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CosmicCaptain
•Thanks for clarifying! That actually makes a big difference. I was calculating based on my old salary from 3 years ago, but my former position has had two grade increases since then. Now I realize I have a higher threshold than I thought. Good to know about the net vs gross for self-employment too. I've been doing some freelance work and wasn't sure how to calculate it against my limit.
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Fatima Al-Maktoum
One thing nobody has mentioned is that the rules change once you hit age 62 with FERS disability retirement. At that point, your benefit converts to regular retirement and the earning limitation goes away completely. So depending on how close you are to 62, this might be a temporary concern rather than a permanent one.
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Anastasia Fedorov
That's a great point about the age 62 conversion that I hadn't considered! I'm currently 57, so I've got about 5 years before that kicks in. It's definitely something to factor into our business planning timeline. Speaking of timeline, we're not in a rush to launch immediately, so maybe we could structure things to start small and gradually ramp up as I get closer to 62. That way we could test the waters with minimal risk to my benefits, then expand once the earning limitations are lifted. Does anyone know if there are any other major changes or considerations when your FERS disability converts to regular retirement at 62? I assume the benefit amount stays the same, but are there other differences I should be aware of?
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StardustSeeker
•When your FERS disability converts to regular retirement at 62, the benefit amount typically stays the same, but there are a few key differences to be aware of. First, as mentioned, the earning limitations disappear completely - you can earn as much as you want without affecting your annuity. Second, you become eligible for the annual cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) that regular retirees receive, whereas disability retirees don't always get full COLAs. Third, your survivor benefits may change slightly, and you'll have different options for things like life insurance continuation. The conversion is automatic, so you don't need to apply for it. Your timeline approach sounds smart - starting small and ramping up closer to 62 gives you the best of both worlds!
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Noah Lee
This is exactly the kind of complex situation where getting professional guidance upfront can save you a lot of headaches later. I went through something similar when I was considering freelance work while on FERS disability - the rules around what constitutes "earned income" and how business structures affect your benefits are really nuanced. One thing I learned is that OPM doesn't just look at the paperwork structure, but also at the substance of your involvement. Even if your wife is the sole LLC owner, if you're actively working in the business (building websites, customer service, etc.), they could potentially view that as evidence of restored earning capacity regardless of who officially receives the income. The safest approach might be to start with your wife as sole owner and you having absolutely minimal involvement - maybe just occasional informal advice. Then as you get closer to 62 and the earning restrictions lift, you could gradually increase your involvement or even become an official co-owner. Also, definitely document everything clearly from the beginning. Keep records of who does what work, how decisions are made, and how any startup funds are contributed. If OPM ever reviews your case, having clean documentation will be crucial. The age 62 conversion is definitely a game-changer for your planning timeline. Five years isn't that long to wait for full earning freedom, especially if it means protecting your current benefits in the meantime.
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