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Should I report zero withholding on a $75K salary? W-4 exemption concerns

I'm a bookkeeper at a small firm and I just noticed something weird while entering payroll data. Our operations manager is having absolutely ZERO federal income tax withheld from his paychecks despite making around $75K annually. I was shocked when I saw this so I reached out to our payroll service provider about it. They sent me back a copy of his W-4 form and pointed to the "Exemption from withholding" section on the second page. From office gossip and things I've overheard, I'm pretty sure this guy hasn't filed his taxes in several years. I think he's using the loophole of "I didn't pay taxes last year" to claim he "had no federal income tax liability in 2024" on his W-4. And since he probably doesn't plan to file in 2025 either, he's using the same excuse looking ahead. I suspect he's doing this not only to avoid paying taxes but also to stay off the IRS's radar completely. While I'm annoyed that he's apparently getting away without paying what he legally owes, that's ultimately between him and the IRS. My real concern is about potential liability for our company. Could we get in trouble for this? Does the fact that we use a third-party payroll company offer any protection? Is "We just followed his instructions on the W-4" a valid defense if this ever comes up in an audit or investigation?

This is a really concerning situation. The "Exemption from withholding" section of the W-4 is actually quite specific and isn't meant to be used the way your operations manager is using it. To claim exemption from withholding, an employee must certify BOTH that they had no federal income tax liability last year AND they expect to have no federal income tax liability this year. At a $75K salary, it's virtually impossible for someone to legitimately have zero tax liability unless they have enormous deductions or credits. Employers actually do have a responsibility here. While you generally can rely on the W-4 as submitted, there's something called "invalid Form W-4" situations. If an employer has knowledge that the W-4 information is fraudulent, they should not honor it. The IRS publication 15 (Circular E) covers this. The third-party payroll company doesn't shield your company from liability in this case. They're just processing based on information provided - the legal responsibility still falls on the employer.

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But how would the IRS even find out about this? If he's not filing tax returns and the company is just following his W-4, wouldn't this just fly under the radar indefinitely? And what kind of penalties could the company face if they keep allowing this?

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The IRS has multiple ways of detecting this issue. They receive W-2 information from all employers and can easily flag accounts showing substantial income with zero withholding and no tax returns. This creates what the IRS calls a "compliance issue" that often triggers automated notices and potentially an audit. As for penalties, if the IRS determines the employer knew the W-4 was invalid, they could hold the company responsible for the taxes that should have been withheld. This can include the full amount of uncollected tax plus penalties and interest. In cases where this appears deliberate, there could even be claims of tax fraud which carries more severe consequences.

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As someone who's worked in payroll compliance for 15 years, I'd recommend documenting everything immediately. Send an email to both your manager and the payroll company expressing your concerns about the W-4 exemption claim at that salary level. Request written clarification on company policy regarding potentially invalid W-4s. This creates a paper trail showing you raised concerns appropriately. If the operations manager pushes back, suggest having your tax professional or payroll provider give a second opinion on whether the exemption claim appears valid. The IRS specifically states that someone making $75K almost certainly has tax liability unless they have massive deductions.

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Vince Eh

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Thanks for this advice. What specifically should I include in this documentation? Should I mention my suspicion that he hasn't filed taxes, or just stick to the facts about the W-4 exemption not seeming appropriate for someone at his income level?

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Stick strictly to the facts and avoid speculation about his tax filing history or intentions. Your documentation should focus only on what you directly observe: that an employee making approximately $75,000 has claimed complete exemption from federal tax withholding, which appears unusual and potentially concerning from a compliance perspective. Phrase your concerns as questions rather than accusations. For example: "I noticed our operations manager has claimed exemption from all federal withholding despite having a salary of $75K. Given this income level, I want to confirm this is being handled correctly and that we're following proper procedures for verifying unusual W-4 claims.

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Has anyone looked at the "lock-in letter" process? My company went through this last year with an employee who kept claiming excessive exemptions. Eventually the IRS sent us a lock-in letter that specified exactly what withholding rate to use regardless of what the employee put on their W-4. Might be worth checking if your company has already received something like this for this employee. The IRS sends these when they notice patterns of underwithholding. They basically override whatever is on the W-4.

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Melissa Lin

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That's a good point! The lock-in letter process shows the IRS definitely monitors these situations. My brother works in HR and said they received one for an employee who had claimed exempt for 3 years while making over 100k. The IRS specified exactly what withholding to use and they weren't allowed to change it without IRS approval.

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