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Carmen Sanchez

Is zero federal income tax withholding allowed on a $75K salary?

I work as a bookkeeper for a small firm, and I was going through our payroll reports when something unusual caught my eye. Our managing director (who makes around $75K annually) has absolutely zero federal income tax being withheld from his paychecks. I've never seen this before in my 5 years of bookkeeping. When I asked our external payroll company about it, they sent me a copy of his W-4 and pointed to the "Exemption from withholding" section on the second page. From conversations around the office, I've gathered that the director probably hasn't filed tax returns for several years. I suspect he's using the logic that since he "didn't pay taxes last year," he can claim he "had no federal income tax liability in 2024" and then claim exemption for 2025 as well. Beyond the ethical issues, I'm worried about potential liability for our company. Even though we use a third-party payroll provider, could our business face penalties if the IRS ever investigates? Is "we just followed his W-4 instructions" a valid defense for either our company or the payroll processor? I don't want to create problems, but I also don't want our business to get in trouble down the road.

Andre Dupont

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This is definitely concerning. As someone who's worked in payroll compliance for years, I can tell you that the "Exemption from withholding" on a W-4 has very specific requirements. It's not just for anyone who wants to avoid withholding. To legally claim exemption from withholding, an employee must certify TWO things: 1) They had no federal income tax liability in the previous year AND 2) They expect to have no federal income tax liability in the current year. For someone making $75K, it would be extremely unusual to legitimately have zero tax liability. Your company could indeed face liability here. Employers have a responsibility to ensure withholding is handled properly. The IRS can impose penalties on employers who don't comply with withholding requirements, especially if there's reason to believe the W-4 is incorrect. "Just following instructions" isn't a complete defense if the claim is obviously improper.

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Zoe Papadakis

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But isn't it illegal for the company to override someone's W-4? Like, if he filled it out claiming exemption, can the company just decide "nah, we're withholding anyway"? Seems like that would open them up to other issues.

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Andre Dupont

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You raise a good point. Employers aren't supposed to override an employee's W-4 without proper cause. However, the IRS does allow (and sometimes requires) employers to disregard a W-4 if they know it's incorrect or fraudulent. For a $75K salary, claiming complete exemption from withholding would raise immediate red flags. The employer can request a new W-4 if they believe the current one results in underwithholding. If the employee refuses, the employer should withhold as if the employee is single with no adjustments, rather than honoring the improper exemption claim.

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I'd be very careful here. My company got hit with penalties when we didn't question an executive's W-4 that had unreasonably low withholding. The IRS actually held us partially responsible for the unpaid taxes. Talk to your company's owner directly. Document the conversation in writing afterward (email yourself notes at minimum). If they instruct you to ignore it, at least you'll have documentation that you raised the issue. CYA is important here.

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Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely going to document everything. Did your company have to pay additional penalties beyond the unpaid taxes? And how did the IRS even find out about the situation?

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Yes, we had to pay penalties in addition to the portion of taxes we were responsible for. It ended up being about 25% on top of the actual tax amount we had to cover. The IRS found out during a routine audit. They specifically looked at executive compensation and withholding patterns. They determined we should have known the W-4 was improper given the salary level and job duties. What's worse, it created a lot of tension between the executive and the company when we had to explain the situation.

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Dylan Hughes

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The red flag for me is that this person makes $75k and claims ZERO withholding? That's way past the threshold where anyone could reasonably claim exemption. For 2025, you basically need to expect to make less than the standard deduction (around $14,000 for single filers) to legally claim exemption. I'd recommend checking IRS Publication 15 (Circular E) section on "Withholding From Employees' Wages" which specifically addresses invalid Forms W-4. Your payroll provider should absolutely know better - they're giving terrible advice if they're just pointing to the exemption section without mentioning the income threshold issue.

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NightOwl42

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Yeah no way someone making $75k qualifies for full exemption unless they have like 10 kids and massive deductions. Does the W-4 have any extra deductions listed or just the straight exemption box checked?

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Caesar Grant

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This is a serious compliance issue that needs immediate attention. As a tax preparer who's seen similar situations, I can tell you that someone making $75K annually cannot legitimately claim exemption from federal withholding unless they have extraordinary circumstances (which would be extremely rare at that income level). The IRS is very clear about this - to claim exemption, you must expect to owe NO federal income tax for the year. With a $75K salary, even after the standard deduction, this person would owe several thousand dollars in federal taxes. Your concern about company liability is absolutely justified. The IRS can and will hold employers responsible for accepting obviously invalid W-4 forms. You should document this issue immediately and escalate it to your company's owner or HR department. The longer this continues, the worse the potential penalties become. I'd strongly recommend having your company request a corrected W-4 from the managing director immediately. If he refuses, you should withhold taxes as if he's single with no allowances - that's what the IRS requires when you can't rely on the employee's W-4. Don't let "we're just following his instructions" be your only defense when the IRS comes knocking.

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